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  • raznomoreR raznomore

    I think Jones stole it with the takedowns for 2 of the judges. If you want t go 5 round with the champ you have to win outright. I guess he didn't do that.

    I'm not sure if Reyes could fight that fight again and not be found out by Jones. I think Jones would level up as he did vs Gustafsson and up the number of kicks he'd throw.

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    @raznomore said in UFC:

    I'm not sure if Reyes could fight that fight again and not be found out by Jones. I think Jones would level up as he did vs Gustafsson and up the number of kicks he'd throw.

    Maybe.. there's so many questions about how a rematch would go

    Is it possible for someone Reyes size to keep that pace up for longer than 3 rounds?
    If he holds back does he lose more of the early rounds?
    Jones might go for the take downs from round one?

    Jones would probably win a rematch.. however the performances against OSP, Santos and now Reyes gives the opposition more hope than the first part of his career.

    Maybe the picograms have stopped pulsing 💉

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      Dana seems to think Reyes has it. I’m slowly being convinced, by a guys at work, Jones did enough to squeak by.

      The Houston card was pretty controversial. Refs and Judges getting it wrong.

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        @MiketheSnow

        Do you have a prediction for the Felder v Hooker fight? It would be good to hear a non kiwi point of view

        My by biased prediction is of course a Hooker win..

        The first round is the biggest worry. Despite Hookers persona he is a deliberate calm fighter.. he evaluates the opponents in the first round before picking up the pace. Felder might get some damage in early
        There's stories about how hard the weight cut is for Felder so the longer it goes the more confident I am

        Everyone seems to be talking about the striking.. but I think it might end by a Hooker rear naked choke late in the fight

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @MiketheSnow

          Do you have a prediction for the Felder v Hooker fight? It would be good to hear a non kiwi point of view

          My by biased prediction is of course a Hooker win..

          The first round is the biggest worry. Despite Hookers persona he is a deliberate calm fighter.. he evaluates the opponents in the first round before picking up the pace. Felder might get some damage in early
          There's stories about how hard the weight cut is for Felder so the longer it goes the more confident I am

          Everyone seems to be talking about the striking.. but I think it might end by a Hooker rear naked choke late in the fight

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          @Duluth I know you said “non kiwi” but I want to talk lol....

          Felder’s spinning back fist is dangerous. For him as well. Having broken his arm throwing it. He’s better than Iaquinta but I don’t think he’s this elite fighter he’s sometimes made out to be. He’s a brawler. Hooker is calculating and so bloody long. I think if he get that feint game going he could do some real damage.

          Felder is a very good kickboxer and I think that’s where he has the edge. Kicks and lots of them will win him the fight.

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @MiketheSnow

            Do you have a prediction for the Felder v Hooker fight? It would be good to hear a non kiwi point of view

            My by biased prediction is of course a Hooker win..

            The first round is the biggest worry. Despite Hookers persona he is a deliberate calm fighter.. he evaluates the opponents in the first round before picking up the pace. Felder might get some damage in early
            There's stories about how hard the weight cut is for Felder so the longer it goes the more confident I am

            Everyone seems to be talking about the striking.. but I think it might end by a Hooker rear naked choke late in the fight

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            @Duluth said in UFC:

            @MiketheSnow

            Do you have a prediction for the Felder v Hooker fight? It would be good to hear a non kiwi point of view

            My by biased prediction is of course a Hooker win..

            The first round is the biggest worry. Despite Hookers persona he is a deliberate calm fighter.. he evaluates the opponents in the first round before picking up the pace. Felder might get some damage in early
            There's stories about how hard the weight cut is for Felder so the longer it goes the more confident I am

            Everyone seems to be talking about the striking.. but I think it might end by a Hooker rear naked choke late in the fight

            Hooker's to lose.

            Head and shoulders better than Felder.

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              This is on at Aotea square later today


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                I watched the open workouts yesterday

                The pad work with Felder and Duke Roufus was the highlight. These workouts are generally a bit of fluff to build hype, but Felder dialled up the intensity
                Seeing the speed of his elbows and spinning back fists up close was really impressive

                Good to see Crute wrestle with Dan Kelly too

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                  Hooker gets the win. This is the first time I have ever really watched UFC so I am not quite an expert yet, but was this a hometown decision? Felder looked like he was landing more decent strikes than Hooker. Hooker's takedowns at the end worth more than strikes?

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    Hooker gets the win. This is the first time I have ever really watched UFC so I am not quite an expert yet, but was this a hometown decision? Felder looked like he was landing more decent strikes than Hooker. Hooker's takedowns at the end worth more than strikes?

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                    @Crazy-Horse

                    I scored it 3-2 Hooker at the event. Felder had a big 4th round

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                      Only one judge gave Hooker the last (which ended with the Hooker takedown)

                      Personally I scored it the same as the blue judge. 2 & 5 very close rounds so the fight could've gone either way.

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                        I thought Hooker lost. I felt the takedown was probably the determining factor for the judges as well as home town love. I don't think you can quite call it a robbery. Hooker started well with the kicks he placed but as it went on Felder's superior kickboxing showed out.

                        Kara-France was accurate but not spectacular.

                        Riddell was lucky those takedowns didn't count against him. If the Russian had been busier on top it wouldn't have been close enough to get a split decision. But Riddell probably sold himself better than any other fighter on the card, who didn't ko thier opponent.

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                        • raznomoreR raznomore

                          I thought Hooker lost. I felt the takedown was probably the determining factor for the judges as well as home town love. I don't think you can quite call it a robbery. Hooker started well with the kicks he placed but as it went on Felder's superior kickboxing showed out.

                          Kara-France was accurate but not spectacular.

                          Riddell was lucky those takedowns didn't count against him. If the Russian had been busier on top it wouldn't have been close enough to get a split decision. But Riddell probably sold himself better than any other fighter on the card, who didn't ko thier opponent.

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                          @raznomore said in UFC:

                          I thought Hooker lost. I felt the takedown was probably the determining factor for the judges as well as home town love. I don't think you can quite call it a robbery. Hooker started well with the kicks he placed but as it went on Felder's superior kickboxing showed out.

                          The judges voting is all over the place on this one. Which is not a surprise as there were so many close rounds
                          They only agree that the 4th goes to Felder and that the 1st goes to Hooker.

                          Personally I thought 3 was a clear Hooker round. So that leaves two toss up rounds that Felder needed to get both of

                          Toss a coin

                          It was a very good fight. That's getting over shadowed a bit

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                          • raznomoreR raznomore

                            I thought Hooker lost. I felt the takedown was probably the determining factor for the judges as well as home town love. I don't think you can quite call it a robbery. Hooker started well with the kicks he placed but as it went on Felder's superior kickboxing showed out.

                            Kara-France was accurate but not spectacular.

                            Riddell was lucky those takedowns didn't count against him. If the Russian had been busier on top it wouldn't have been close enough to get a split decision. But Riddell probably sold himself better than any other fighter on the card, who didn't ko thier opponent.

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                            #618

                            @raznomore said in UFC:

                            Kara-France was accurate but not spectacular.

                            Riddell was lucky those takedowns didn't count against him. If the Russian had been busier on top it wouldn't have been close enough to get a split decision. But Riddell probably sold himself better than any other fighter on the card, who didn't ko thier opponent.

                            KKF had a speed advantage and just slowly pulled away. Nam has similar power and was still catching him often enough to be dangerous. I was worried he was going to get a late KO

                            Riddell was a strange fight.. if you were judging the whole fight at once he was the clear winner. He lost the first, won the 3rd easily.. 2 was razor thin

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                              Karolina - I hope that her was last fight. For whatever reason she isn't competitive with the top fighters anymore and she took a beating

                              I was only a few rows back plus the fighters all exited right past where I was sitting. Her face was a mess.
                              It was obvious in the first round the damage was serious. I thought the doctor might have stopped it, but her corner should have.

                              A broken orbital bone. She's stuck in NZ until surgery is done

                              Jake Matthews - because of these regional cards I've seen him fight 4 times now. Sometimes it appears he's all boxing or all wrestling. This is the first time he appeared to comfortably flow from one to the other

                              Jimmy Crute - that chain wrestling was spectacular.. particularly for someone from this part of the world. Hiring Dan Kelly full time was a great move

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                Karolina - I hope that her was last fight. For whatever reason she isn't competitive with the top fighters anymore and she took a beating

                                I was only a few rows back plus the fighters all exited right past where I was sitting. Her face was a mess.
                                It was obvious in the first round the damage was serious. I thought the doctor might have stopped it, but her corner should have.

                                A broken orbital bone. She's stuck in NZ until surgery is done

                                Jake Matthews - because of these regional cards I've seen him fight 4 times now. Sometimes it appears he's all boxing or all wrestling. This is the first time he appeared to comfortably flow from one to the other

                                Jimmy Crute - that chain wrestling was spectacular.. particularly for someone from this part of the world. Hiring Dan Kelly full time was a great move

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                                @Duluth said in UFC:

                                Karolina - I hope that her was last fight. For whatever reason she isn't competitive with the top fighters anymore and she took a beating

                                I was only a few rows back plus the fighters all exited right past where I was sitting. Her face was a mess.
                                It was obvious in the first round the damage was serious. I thought the doctor might have stopped it, but her corner should have.

                                A broken orbital bone. She's stuck in NZ until surgery is done

                                My wife has suddenly gotten into this stuff which is good for me. But she thought Karolina was fighting her first fight. I said she was once a championship contender and my wife didn’t believe me. She look led that bad it’s hard to disagree.

                                She came out to the ring in tears. Something is very wrong.

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                                  Would like to see the striking stats for Hooker v Felder. Many are saying it's a hometown decision but I've also heard Hooker actually landed more in the 5th. Felder certainly looks more damaged post fight.

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                                    Would like to see the striking stats for Hooker v Felder. Many are saying it's a hometown decision but I've also heard Hooker actually landed more in the 5th. Felder certainly looks more damaged post fight.

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                                    @mofitzy_

                                    http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/5fceb95c29d929bc

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @mofitzy_

                                      http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/5fceb95c29d929bc

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                                      @Duluth
                                      Cheers, so if the stats are accurate then Hooker deserved his victory.

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                                        Adesanya defends his title this weekend

                                        I'm confident he'll win.. too fast and too elusive for Romero. Romero's crazy bursts of energy are always a threat though
                                        I actually hope there is some wrestling in this match. We haven't seen Israel have to defend that yet, but his camp is very confident they can cope with it

                                        Anyone picking Romero?

                                        Also does anyone think Joanna has a chance vs Zhang? I'll be cheering for Jedrzejczyk but can't see her competing

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          Adesanya defends his title this weekend

                                          I'm confident he'll win.. too fast and too elusive for Romero. Romero's crazy bursts of energy are always a threat though
                                          I actually hope there is some wrestling in this match. We haven't seen Israel have to defend that yet, but his camp is very confident they can cope with it

                                          Anyone picking Romero?

                                          Also does anyone think Joanna has a chance vs Zhang? I'll be cheering for Jedrzejczyk but can't see her competing

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                                          @Duluth said in UFC:

                                          Adesanya defends his title this weekend

                                          I'm confident he'll win.. too fast and too elusive for Romero. Romero's crazy bursts of energy are always a threat though
                                          I actually hope there is some wrestling in this match. We haven't seen Israel have to defend that yet, but his camp is very confident they can cope with it

                                          Anyone picking Romero?

                                          Also does anyone think Joanna has a chance vs Zhang? I'll be cheering for Jedrzejczyk but can't see her competing

                                          Genuine question? Does he come out to the Lion King intro? AHHH DEN SAAANYA!!!!!

                                          Feels like a missed opportunity if not.

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