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  • CrucialC Crucial

    He probably read all the criticism he gets on the Fern and decided to leave. 😉

    You have to admit, we are pretty harsh on players until they go and then wish they had stayed. There appears to be little room for a top 100 (but not top 40) player in NZ as far as fans go.

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    @Crucial said in Exodus:

    He probably read all the criticism he gets on the Fern and decided to leave. 😉

    You have to admit, we are pretty harsh on players until they go and then wish they had stayed. There appears to be little room for a top 100 (but not top 40) player in NZ as far as fans go.

    not sure i agree with that. we are harsh on EVERYBODY. The AB captain has been copping it for the previous 2 years. And there are hundreds of posts bemoaning the loss of those 41-100 guys, and the effect on the Super Rugby product.

    I don't think Lam has really copped heat for his Super Rugby output, just the fact he wasn't really ever good enough to go a step higher.

    If anything, we anoint people "future ABs" after a couple of NPC games, and then try and hold them to that standard.

    The reality is, for that 41-100 crowd, the opportunity cost of playing in NZ on the hope of a couple of test caps is just too high. Good luck to him. Bad for NZ rugby, great for Ben Lam

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      Lam attracted a lot of shit early on largely because of his surname. There were people on TSF claiming that Auckland did not want to pick him but Pat Lam forced them too 🙄

      2015 was his break through year

      It's a shame he got injured at the very start of the next SR season. He was extremely good in the Dev game when he got injured.
      That wasted a full year of his prime

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        Lam attracted a lot of shit early on largely because of his surname. There were people on TSF claiming that Auckland did not want to pick him but Pat Lam forced them too 🙄

        2015 was his break through year

        It's a shame he got injured at the very start of the next SR season. He was extremely good in the Dev game when he got injured.
        That wasted a full year of his prime

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        @Duluth I thought it was more than he was considered a 7s specialist initially, but I'm not up on the ins and outs of Auckland rugby.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @Duluth I thought it was more than he was considered a 7s specialist initially, but I'm not up on the ins and outs of Auckland rugby.

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          @Nepia said in Exodus:

          I thought it was more than he was considered a 7s specialist initially, but I'm not up on the ins and outs of Auckland rugby.

          I think that was latter

          The initial bullshit he attracted was because of his surname. It wasn't from Auckland fans.

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            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/119291874/the-undertheradar-retirement-of-all-blacks-loosehead-prop-tim-perry

            Rare in this day and age, but it's back to the farm for Tim. Nice for him to leave on his own terms

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              Levi Aumua has signed with Hino Red Dolphins (Top League) with immediate effect.
              https://hino-reddolphins.com/news/detail179/

              According to the website of asierugby, former Blues Forwards Coach Steve Jackson is the new head coach of Shimizu Blue Sharks (Top Challenge League, 2nd div in Japan). As Shimizu hasn't posted any news items on its website since October 2019 and not on its social media since January, I have not been able to check this.
              https://www.asierugby.com/post/steve-jackson-nommé-entraîneur-chef-de-shimizu-blue-sharks

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                #824

                No doubt Ta$man will be on the poach for yet another player to invite into their squad to replace Aumua.

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                • HigginsH Higgins

                  No doubt Ta$man will be on the poach for yet another player to invite into their squad to replace Aumua.

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                  Yeetyaah
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                  @Higgins heaps of props around so should be easy pickings

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    Levi Aumua has signed with Hino Red Dolphins (Top League) with immediate effect.
                    https://hino-reddolphins.com/news/detail179/

                    According to the website of asierugby, former Blues Forwards Coach Steve Jackson is the new head coach of Shimizu Blue Sharks (Top Challenge League, 2nd div in Japan). As Shimizu hasn't posted any news items on its website since October 2019 and not on its social media since January, I have not been able to check this.
                    https://www.asierugby.com/post/steve-jackson-nommé-entraîneur-chef-de-shimizu-blue-sharks

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                    Steven Harris
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                    #826

                    @Stargazer could cover the midfield,prop and hooker me thinks..!

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                      #827
                      Tokyo Metropolitan Police on Thursday announced the arrest of a New Zealand rugby player for the Top League’s Hino Red Dolphins over the alleged use of cocaine, reports Sankei Sports (Mar. 6).
                      
                      At around 4:30 a.m., an officer took forward Joel Everson, 29, in for voluntary questioning after seeing him behaving suspiciously as he walked in the Roppongi entertainment district of Minato Ward.
                      
                      After Everson declined to voluntarily provide a urine sample, police forcibly took a sample, which gave a positive result for cocaine, the Azabu Police Station said.
                      

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                      https://www.tokyoreporter.com/japan/new-zealand-rugby-player-nabbed-over-alleged-use-of-cocaine-in-roppongi/

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                        Forcibly took a urine sample? Ouch...

                        Or...

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                        • TimT Away
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                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12333770

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                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12333770

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                            @Tim Always sad that a player has to retire due to injury, but health comes first. At least he's had a decent career and has been able to earn some coin overseas.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12333770

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                              #831

                              @Tim he was to be The Man at one stage wasn't he?

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                                @Tim he was to be The Man at one stage wasn't he?

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                                Bovidae
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                                @booboo Based on his NZ U20s performances. Trent Renata had a similar reputation from a few years earlier.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @booboo Based on his NZ U20s performances. Trent Renata had a similar reputation from a few years earlier.

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                                  @Bovidae yeah he looked bloody good, thought he was one of the best I'd seen at that level (back when I used to watch). Seemed an excellent kicker.

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                                    jauzy019
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                                    Tumua Manu (Chiefs) joins french club Pau on a two-year deal.

                                    https://www.section-paloise.com/actualites/news/2358-officiel-4-premieres-recrues-pour-la-saison-2020-2021

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      And it begins...

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        And it begins...

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                                        @Bovidae It will be interesting to see where some of the older players are going to, who are now off-contract in France. Retiring, returning to NZ, or going to another overseas club.

                                        There's a list forming: Julian Savea, Liam Messam, Tom Taylor, Loni Uhila, and a few that I can't remember right now. I just saw that Tom Marshall has signed in Japan.

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                                          Tumua Manu (Chiefs) joins french club Pau on a two-year deal.

                                          https://www.section-paloise.com/actualites/news/2358-officiel-4-premieres-recrues-pour-la-saison-2020-2021

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                                          Yeetyaah
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                                          @jauzy019 bugger, but Chiefs have a stacked midfield so probably not surprising. Wonder if he'll play for Samoa at some stage.

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