50 Years of Star Trek - RIP
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@dogmeat said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
Picard is OK - can see how he could have evolved into how he is portrayed, but why does every other "new" character have to be dick?
Yeah, that's getting old. I actually liked the Romulan caretakers from the beginning, not sure why we needed so many new characters when you could have just started with those two.
I think the main point, which is fair, is that Picard was not overly fond of Data. Sure that could have changed with the sacrifice over time, but it is kind of weird. And Picard hated children! Why would he be reading bed time stories to the Ninja?
Anyway, I like space opera TV, and there is less crying than Discovery. And 7 of 9 is a favorite of mine.
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@dogmeat said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
Old men either get curmudgeonly or sentimental - they seem to be trying to make Picard both - I love you too Raffi....
C'mon no way.
Yeah, that scene was going great when he looked extremely uncomfortable, then they bailed on it.
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@Hooroo here you go
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The big WTF is Picard died and put his consciousness into an android body. A body that looks exactly the same, no abilities and will die when they expected him to die in about ten years.
They also killed Data. Again. But only a Quantum simulation of him this time, kind of implying he was in a tortured state of never being about to die in a simulation that he didn’t choose to be revived in.
Also, Riker stopped making Pizza and managed to get the command of the best ship in the fleet in a week and saved the day at the last minute. Sure.
I’m missing stuff but it was drivel and I have a low standard for this stuff.
Go. Fuck. Yourself. Writers of Picard.
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Hooroo here you go
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The big WTF is Picard died and put his consciousness into an android body. A body that looks exactly the same, no abilities and will die when they expected him to die in about ten years.
They also killed Data. Again. But only a Quantum simulation of him this time, kind of implying he was in a tortured state of never being about to die in a simulation that he didn’t choose to be revived in.
Also, Riker stopped making Pizza and managed to get the command of the best ship in the fleet in a week and saved the day at the last minute. Sure.
I’m missing stuff but it was drivel and I have a low standard for this stuff.
Go. Fuck. Yourself. Writers of Picard.
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Cheers mate! I can feel your agitation!!!
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@Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Kirwan Once I saw the 8th episode, and the video game plot reveal, I decided that was enough for me. Guess they were always going to mess up the potential series they had.
You just know they will never mention the android thing again.
I see they have hired a genuine Trek fan as a writer next year. I can live in hope of a soft reboot to clean it up.
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Kirwan Once I saw the 8th episode, and the video game plot reveal, I decided that was enough for me. Guess they were always going to mess up the potential series they had.
You just know they will never mention the android thing again.
I see they have hired a genuine Trek fan as a writer next year. I can live in hope of a soft reboot to clean it up.
Marc Bernardin?
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Nepia that’s the one.
He’s a little in the virtue signalling side, but has great story ideas. In the Kevin Smith podcast his critics of plot and focus on characters development and motivation has me optimistic. Assuming he gets listened to.
Hahaha, I was going to mention he could be a little too (inset words here that aren’t fucking loaded like virtue signalling) for you. He’s great on that podcast as a balance to Smiths positivity.
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@Nepia said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Nepia that’s the one.
He’s a little in the virtue signalling side, but has great story ideas. In the Kevin Smith podcast his critics of plot and focus on characters development and motivation has me optimistic. Assuming he gets listened to.
Hahaha, I was going to mention he could be a little too (inset words here that aren’t fucking loaded like virtue signalling) for you. He’s great on that podcast as a balance to Smiths positivity.
I don’t mind people having that world view, Original Star Trek was full of that sort of thing. The key is to tell good stories with it, and three dimensional characters.
Start Trek is also not a dumb action series. The reason why it’s lasted so long is it’s positive view of the future. Adding back things like poverty in a world with replicator technology shows a complete lack of understanding of the show.
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Nepia said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Nepia that’s the one.
He’s a little in the virtue signalling side, but has great story ideas. In the Kevin Smith podcast his critics of plot and focus on characters development and motivation has me optimistic. Assuming he gets listened to.
Hahaha, I was going to mention he could be a little too (inset words here that aren’t fucking loaded like virtue signalling) for you. He’s great on that podcast as a balance to Smiths positivity.
I don’t mind people having that world view, Original Star Trek was full of that sort of thing. The key is to tell good stories with it, and three dimensional characters.
Start Trek is also not a dumb action series. The reason why it’s lasted so long is it’s positive view of the future. Adding back things like poverty in a world with replicator technology shows a complete lack of understanding of the show.
Yeah, that's always been my thought. I'm not a Trek fan enough to get upset by a change to action. I love the original but never got into any of the other series deeply so I probably like Discovery more than most. But I can understand why big trekkies would.
I wont see Picard unless it comes to Netflix so can't judge it until then.
I assume you've heard Bernadin discussing when he worked/interned at ST-NG back in the 80s?
On the replicator technology (from a haven't seen the show perspective so could be 100% off base) could it be written the tech is available but it's prohibitively expensive due to patents (like with some medicines etc)?
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Yeah, heard the last podcast.
The point of Star Trek is we are past racism, sexism and energy dependence. So no poverty and everyone has a chance to reach their pull potential.
The conflict came from interaction with other races or planets that were as evolved or civilised and the crew having to work to get her and use critical thinking or science to solve a problem.
In this last episode there was basically a magic tool that can fix anything powered by thought. It’s insulting.
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
Yeah, heard the last podcast.
He's spoken about it in depth on an older podcast, but I can't remember which one sorry.
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