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    @Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    @Kirwan Once I saw the 8th episode, and the video game plot reveal, I decided that was enough for me. Guess they were always going to mess up the potential series they had.

    You just know they will never mention the android thing again.

    I see they have hired a genuine Trek fan as a writer next year. I can live in hope of a soft reboot to clean it up.

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    @Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    @Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    @Kirwan Once I saw the 8th episode, and the video game plot reveal, I decided that was enough for me. Guess they were always going to mess up the potential series they had.

    You just know they will never mention the android thing again.

    I see they have hired a genuine Trek fan as a writer next year. I can live in hope of a soft reboot to clean it up.

    Marc Bernardin?

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    @Nepia that’s the one.

    He’s a little in the virtue signalling side, but has great story ideas. In the Kevin Smith podcast his critics of plot and focus on characters development and motivation has me optimistic. Assuming he gets listened to.

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    @Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    @Nepia that’s the one.

    He’s a little in the virtue signalling side, but has great story ideas. In the Kevin Smith podcast his critics of plot and focus on characters development and motivation has me optimistic. Assuming he gets listened to.

    Hahaha, I was going to mention he could be a little too (inset words here that aren’t fucking loaded like virtue signalling) for you. He’s great on that podcast as a balance to Smiths positivity.

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    @Nepia said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    @Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    @Nepia that’s the one.

    He’s a little in the virtue signalling side, but has great story ideas. In the Kevin Smith podcast his critics of plot and focus on characters development and motivation has me optimistic. Assuming he gets listened to.

    Hahaha, I was going to mention he could be a little too (inset words here that aren’t fucking loaded like virtue signalling) for you. He’s great on that podcast as a balance to Smiths positivity.

    I don’t mind people having that world view, Original Star Trek was full of that sort of thing. The key is to tell good stories with it, and three dimensional characters.

    Start Trek is also not a dumb action series. The reason why it’s lasted so long is it’s positive view of the future. Adding back things like poverty in a world with replicator technology shows a complete lack of understanding of the show.

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    @Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    @Nepia said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    @Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    @Nepia that’s the one.

    He’s a little in the virtue signalling side, but has great story ideas. In the Kevin Smith podcast his critics of plot and focus on characters development and motivation has me optimistic. Assuming he gets listened to.

    Hahaha, I was going to mention he could be a little too (inset words here that aren’t fucking loaded like virtue signalling) for you. He’s great on that podcast as a balance to Smiths positivity.

    I don’t mind people having that world view, Original Star Trek was full of that sort of thing. The key is to tell good stories with it, and three dimensional characters.

    Start Trek is also not a dumb action series. The reason why it’s lasted so long is it’s positive view of the future. Adding back things like poverty in a world with replicator technology shows a complete lack of understanding of the show.

    Yeah, that's always been my thought. I'm not a Trek fan enough to get upset by a change to action. I love the original but never got into any of the other series deeply so I probably like Discovery more than most. But I can understand why big trekkies would.

    I wont see Picard unless it comes to Netflix so can't judge it until then.

    I assume you've heard Bernadin discussing when he worked/interned at ST-NG back in the 80s?

    On the replicator technology (from a haven't seen the show perspective so could be 100% off base) could it be written the tech is available but it's prohibitively expensive due to patents (like with some medicines etc)?

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    Yeah, heard the last podcast.

    The point of Star Trek is we are past racism, sexism and energy dependence. So no poverty and everyone has a chance to reach their pull potential.

    The conflict came from interaction with other races or planets that were as evolved or civilised and the crew having to work to get her and use critical thinking or science to solve a problem.

    In this last episode there was basically a magic tool that can fix anything powered by thought. It’s insulting.

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    @Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    Yeah, heard the last podcast.

    He's spoken about it in depth on an older podcast, but I can't remember which one sorry.

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    @Nepia I’ll have a search, thanks.

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    USS Enterprise blueprints

    https://imgur.com/gallery/37g62pm

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    That time that Jason Alexander was on Star Trek and they gave him the full punani head

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    Redirect Notice

    Yes!

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    @Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:

    Redirect Notice

    Yes!

    I thought this had already been announced? Or had it just been rumoured?

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    @Nepia strongly rumoured until this announcement.

    I really hope with that title it’s back to exploration instead of the earth related stories they do these days.

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    @Tim I lasted ten mins, so depressing. Right, of course

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    @Kirwan Probably the most accurate comment I've seen on the show, which came from a TV writer, was that much of it was at CW Network level quality and tone.

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    @Tim lol. Ouch.

    The worst part is special effects have never been cheaper or looked better. So much scope for stories with pretty much no limits.

    Yet we keep getting Jesus saves the universe plots over and over.

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    Strange New Worlds spinoff - producer Akiva Goldsman says it is a return to “classical Trek values” as well as episodic storytelling. Do you want sunshine despite the gloom outside your window? You’re gonna get it. He goes as far as to say, “Our plots will be more closed-ended than you’ve seen in either Discovery or Picard.”

    Brad Gullickson  /  May 18, 2020

    'Star Trek' Explained: The Promise of 'Strange New Worlds'

    'Star Trek' Explained: The Promise of 'Strange New Worlds'

    The latest series is designed to appease those who've grumbled over the recent batch of 'Star Trek.'

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