50 Years of Star Trek - RIP
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Nepia that’s the one.
He’s a little in the virtue signalling side, but has great story ideas. In the Kevin Smith podcast his critics of plot and focus on characters development and motivation has me optimistic. Assuming he gets listened to.
Hahaha, I was going to mention he could be a little too (inset words here that aren’t fucking loaded like virtue signalling) for you. He’s great on that podcast as a balance to Smiths positivity.
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@Nepia said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Nepia that’s the one.
He’s a little in the virtue signalling side, but has great story ideas. In the Kevin Smith podcast his critics of plot and focus on characters development and motivation has me optimistic. Assuming he gets listened to.
Hahaha, I was going to mention he could be a little too (inset words here that aren’t fucking loaded like virtue signalling) for you. He’s great on that podcast as a balance to Smiths positivity.
I don’t mind people having that world view, Original Star Trek was full of that sort of thing. The key is to tell good stories with it, and three dimensional characters.
Start Trek is also not a dumb action series. The reason why it’s lasted so long is it’s positive view of the future. Adding back things like poverty in a world with replicator technology shows a complete lack of understanding of the show.
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Nepia said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
@Nepia that’s the one.
He’s a little in the virtue signalling side, but has great story ideas. In the Kevin Smith podcast his critics of plot and focus on characters development and motivation has me optimistic. Assuming he gets listened to.
Hahaha, I was going to mention he could be a little too (inset words here that aren’t fucking loaded like virtue signalling) for you. He’s great on that podcast as a balance to Smiths positivity.
I don’t mind people having that world view, Original Star Trek was full of that sort of thing. The key is to tell good stories with it, and three dimensional characters.
Start Trek is also not a dumb action series. The reason why it’s lasted so long is it’s positive view of the future. Adding back things like poverty in a world with replicator technology shows a complete lack of understanding of the show.
Yeah, that's always been my thought. I'm not a Trek fan enough to get upset by a change to action. I love the original but never got into any of the other series deeply so I probably like Discovery more than most. But I can understand why big trekkies would.
I wont see Picard unless it comes to Netflix so can't judge it until then.
I assume you've heard Bernadin discussing when he worked/interned at ST-NG back in the 80s?
On the replicator technology (from a haven't seen the show perspective so could be 100% off base) could it be written the tech is available but it's prohibitively expensive due to patents (like with some medicines etc)?
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Yeah, heard the last podcast.
The point of Star Trek is we are past racism, sexism and energy dependence. So no poverty and everyone has a chance to reach their pull potential.
The conflict came from interaction with other races or planets that were as evolved or civilised and the crew having to work to get her and use critical thinking or science to solve a problem.
In this last episode there was basically a magic tool that can fix anything powered by thought. It’s insulting.
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
Yeah, heard the last podcast.
He's spoken about it in depth on an older podcast, but I can't remember which one sorry.
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USS Enterprise blueprints
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That time that Jason Alexander was on Star Trek and they gave him the full punani head
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Yes!
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
Yes!
I thought this had already been announced? Or had it just been rumoured?
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Strange New Worlds spinoff - producer Akiva Goldsman says it is a return to “classical Trek values” as well as episodic storytelling. Do you want sunshine despite the gloom outside your window? You’re gonna get it. He goes as far as to say, “Our plots will be more closed-ended than you’ve seen in either Discovery or Picard.”
'Star Trek' Explained: The Promise of 'Strange New Worlds'
The latest series is designed to appease those who've grumbled over the recent batch of 'Star Trek.'
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@Stockcar86 said in 50 Years of Star Trek - RIP:
Strange New Worlds spinoff - producer Akiva Goldsman says it is a return to “classical Trek values” as well as episodic storytelling. Do you want sunshine despite the gloom outside your window? You’re gonna get it. He goes as far as to say, “Our plots will be more closed-ended than you’ve seen in either Discovery or Picard.”
'Star Trek' Explained: The Promise of 'Strange New Worlds'
The latest series is designed to appease those who've grumbled over the recent batch of 'Star Trek.'
I've been burned before, they said Picard would be a smaller scope and be a character study. Instead we got ninja robots (and ninja assassins) trying to save the universe from future robots (ripped off from Mass Effect).
I hope they do go more episodic and more Trek like. The Orville is very popular because of those two aspects (and you can still have a series arc, just like the Orville, and self contained stories).
To be Trek it needs to be an optimistic view of the future, show team work resolving problems that they face, favour science over of handy wavy magic characters.
They have two things right so far, the casting of the main three is very, very good. Anson Mount is the right age and very believable as a captain. All three are very good actors.
Final on is the special effects, all the shows have had their movie level moments. It should look great.
Now tell though provoking stories, they can even be political (TOS was). They just need to be smart. Get working sci fi authors to write an episode.
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very late to the party but reading through the thread has been really interesting,
dont think i'll be participating too much though because i really liked both Discovery and Picard, sure Picard had some slow episodes, the main thread could have been told in half the time but i still found them both very watchable
i think i just didn't analyse them that much, just tried to sit back an enjoy, most reviews ive seen are around the 7/10 mark which i thinks about right, we're not talking Madalorian levels of good here but still fun
also love the Orville...find i get taken out of the story sometimes because of the TNG sets/uniforms /lighting etc though, i realise thats kind of the point but after a couple of season it kind of stand out
