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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121178754/why-new-zealand-rugby-boss-mark-robinson-is-a-key-figure-in-world-rugby-power-battle

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      @antipodean said in World Rugby chairman election:

      @Machpants The Guardian seems more upset he used homophobic language than kicked a man to death at a wedding reception.

      you're not wrong.

      Francis Kean, the chairman of the Fiji Rugby Union and a key supporter of Bill Beaumont’s bid for re-election as World Rugby’s chairman, has stood down from the global governing body’s council amid allegations of homophobia and discrimination.
      oh yeah, and he also killed someone once

      This represents the modern world media in a nutshell. Racism, homophobia and sexism is worse optics than killing someone.

      Edit: changed 'world' to 'media'. Real world doesn't always have the same values.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        Imagine the righteousness when they find out he also has unpaid parking fines.

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        @antipodean said in World Rugby chairman election:

        Imagine the righteousness when they find out he also has unpaid parking fines.

        I'm sure when he explains his difficult childhood in which he was occasionally given a smack on the backside, all will be forgiven...

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        • boobooB Do not disturb
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          Love this from Impey.

          Didn't see the Reason whinge piece but reckon you can get the gist from this response.

          https://twitter.com/NZRugby/status/1252817891709186050?s=19

          (Will change the thread title slightly.)

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          • boobooB booboo

            Love this from Impey.

            Didn't see the Reason whinge piece but reckon you can get the gist from this response.

            https://twitter.com/NZRugby/status/1252817891709186050?s=19

            (Will change the thread title slightly.)

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            @booboo Magnificent. Mark Reason is a FluffyBunny!

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            • boobooB booboo

              Love this from Impey.

              Didn't see the Reason whinge piece but reckon you can get the gist from this response.

              https://twitter.com/NZRugby/status/1252817891709186050?s=19

              (Will change the thread title slightly.)

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              @booboo said in World Rugby Board elections:

              Love this from Impey.

              Didn't see the Reason whinge piece but reckon you can get the gist from this response.

              Yeah, my instinct is still not to feed the troll though 🙂 Can understand why he responded

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              • boobooB booboo

                Love this from Impey.

                Didn't see the Reason whinge piece but reckon you can get the gist from this response.

                https://twitter.com/NZRugby/status/1252817891709186050?s=19

                (Will change the thread title slightly.)

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                @booboo Nice.

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                  Beautiful reply, nice job. More openness like that please.

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                    Impey wrote a similar letter about Reason back in 2018 which ended with:

                    I don't expect any apology or correction, as it would mean nothing coming from Mr Reason

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                      Ireland and Wales could be about to join the Pichot train. A pity someone isn't running against Laporte.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121269828/ireland-wales-could-ditch-bill-beaumont-in-world-rugby-election-report

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        Ireland and Wales could be about to join the Pichot train. A pity someone isn't running against Laporte.

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121269828/ireland-wales-could-ditch-bill-beaumont-in-world-rugby-election-report

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                        @Bovidae I haven't been following closely but knowing the very little I know about Pichot and his foreign players line, that's extremely surprising!

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                          @Bovidae I haven't been following closely but knowing the very little I know about Pichot and his foreign players line, that's extremely surprising!

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                          @Bones It could be BS. But the Paddies could be holding a grudge, and Pichot didn't cost them a RWC hosting.

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                            Welsh board are backing Sir Bill Beaumont:

                            https://twitter.com/bbcrugbyunion/status/1255496750573461506?s=20

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                              Welsh board are backing Sir Bill Beaumont:

                              https://twitter.com/bbcrugbyunion/status/1255496750573461506?s=20

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                              @sparky i.e. "more of the same thanks"

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                                Unless SA jump ship the vote is going to be SH vs NH so that tells you where we are at. It will be World Rugby in name only.

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                                  Depending on where the lines are drawn we could be heading for a period ripe for a split, or one where the SH Unions take control of their own destiny (and ignore aspects of WR to do so).
                                  We have a strong group of countries with entirely different needs to the rest of the world. They are close geographically and by timezone and based in areas of high population.. The rest of the world is spread out and either don't have large economic populations or are still in an infancy stage with regard to rugby.
                                  One group (despite money worries) will stick to the current formula because it suits them best and try and force their model onto those it doesn't suit.
                                  COVID has created a hiatus in which many businesses have been able to pause and have a clear look at the future. There is an opportunity to change the wheels of the bus while it isn't moving.
                                  This is a situation ripe for disruptive change.

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                                    Depending on where the lines are drawn we could be heading for a period ripe for a split, or one where the SH Unions take control of their own destiny (and ignore aspects of WR to do so).
                                    We have a strong group of countries with entirely different needs to the rest of the world. They are close geographically and by timezone and based in areas of high population.. The rest of the world is spread out and either don't have large economic populations or are still in an infancy stage with regard to rugby.
                                    One group (despite money worries) will stick to the current formula because it suits them best and try and force their model onto those it doesn't suit.
                                    COVID has created a hiatus in which many businesses have been able to pause and have a clear look at the future. There is an opportunity to change the wheels of the bus while it isn't moving.
                                    This is a situation ripe for disruptive change.

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                                    @Crucial said in World Rugby Board elections:

                                    This is a situation ripe for disruptive change.

                                    How can you do that when WR 'own' rugby? Would a breakaway have to look like Packer's cricket in the 80s (I genuinely don't know what a breakaway would look like). Also, what happens with laws - when we get changes so the laws (and interpretations!) are different, how do you play cross-code games?

                                    WR only survives if the RWC survives. It's their only source of income. The money from that is NH/Europe money at the moment ... but that may change if things go well.

                                    Great conversation starter

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Ireland and Wales could be about to join the Pichot train. A pity someone isn't running against Laporte.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121269828/ireland-wales-could-ditch-bill-beaumont-in-world-rugby-election-report

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                                      @Bovidae said in World Rugby Board elections:

                                      Ireland and Wales could be about to join the Pichot train. A pity someone isn't running against Laporte.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121269828/ireland-wales-could-ditch-bill-beaumont-in-world-rugby-election-report

                                      There is absolutely no way the Celtic nations are not voting for Beaumont. Turkeys don’t vote for Xmas.

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                                        @Bovidae said in World Rugby Board elections:

                                        Ireland and Wales could be about to join the Pichot train. A pity someone isn't running against Laporte.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121269828/ireland-wales-could-ditch-bill-beaumont-in-world-rugby-election-report

                                        There is absolutely no way the Celtic nations are not voting for Beaumont. Turkeys don’t vote for Xmas.

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                                        @Billy-Tell said in World Rugby Board elections:

                                        There is absolutely no way the Celtic nations are not voting for Beaumont. Turkeys don’t vote for Xmas.

                                        Could well be a negotiating position, similar to 'league are interested'. Pity; would be good for WR if Pichot got there

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                                          @Crucial said in World Rugby Board elections:

                                          This is a situation ripe for disruptive change.

                                          How can you do that when WR 'own' rugby? Would a breakaway have to look like Packer's cricket in the 80s (I genuinely don't know what a breakaway would look like). Also, what happens with laws - when we get changes so the laws (and interpretations!) are different, how do you play cross-code games?

                                          WR only survives if the RWC survives. It's their only source of income. The money from that is NH/Europe money at the moment ... but that may change if things go well.

                                          Great conversation starter

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                                          @nzzp said in World Rugby Board elections:

                                          @Crucial said in World Rugby Board elections:

                                          This is a situation ripe for disruptive change.

                                          How can you do that when WR 'own' rugby? Would a breakaway have to look like Packer's cricket in the 80s (I genuinely don't know what a breakaway would look like). Also, what happens with laws - when we get changes so the laws (and interpretations!) are different, how do you play cross-code games?

                                          WR only survives if the RWC survives. It's their only source of income. The money from that is NH/Europe money at the moment ... but that may change if things go well.

                                          Great conversation starter

                                          I have no idea what it looks like. I just think that if the NH 'big guys' continue to maintain the status quo with only lip service to the needs of other countries there will either be a coup to change the representational setup of WR or a breakaway of sorts.

                                          What, for example, would happen if NZ, Australia, SA, ARG, US, Japan, and the PIs declared that they were going to go their own way and negotiate with RWC Ltd around participation?

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