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Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @booboo Well he hasn't been the best 7 in Super Rugby this year, he hasn't even been the best Chiefs loose forward this year. His performances last year weren't exactly vintage Sam Cane and he would probably be the first to admit that.

    I hope he gets back to his pre injury form because that's what the All Blacks need, especially if he's going to be Captain.

    I wouldn't consider the pre lockdown stats of Sam Cane a man in form..

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    @Canes4life I wouldn't get too hung up on the form of a veteran All Black 7 during the first month/6 weeks of Super Rugby. That's not when he is supposed to be peaking.

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      Cane hasn't really been playing as a 7 for the Chiefs as Boshier is usually the player on the ball at the breakdown. Probably more as a 6.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Canes4life I wouldn't get too hung up on the form of a veteran All Black 7 during the first month/6 weeks of Super Rugby. That's not when he is supposed to be peaking.

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        @KiwiMurph of course it isn't, the point I'm making is that he hasn't quite been able to get back to his best since that neck injury. Here's hoping the captaincy brings the best out of him because most rugby pundits know what he's capable of.

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          While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

          I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

          Does the AB captain get paid more?

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

            I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

            Does the AB captain get paid more?

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            @taniwharugby said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

            While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

            I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

            Does the AB captain get paid more?

            Surely has too given the extra responsibilities - meetings, media commitments, other duties.

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @taniwharugby said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

              While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

              I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

              Does the AB captain get paid more?

              Surely has too given the extra responsibilities - meetings, media commitments, other duties.

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              @ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

              @taniwharugby said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

              While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

              I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

              Does the AB captain get paid more?

              Surely has too given the extra responsibilities - meetings, media commitments, other duties.

              No I don't think so, from what Richie had said in his memoirs. But I think it is just to put some positive rugby news out there. Keep people interested, Joe public

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                Good sensible move. Best man for the job currently.

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                • ARHSA ARHS

                  Good sensible move. Best man for the job currently.

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                  @ARHS said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                  Good sensible move. Best man for the job currently.

                  Yep all the rugby currently needs a captain.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

                    I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

                    Does the AB captain get paid more?

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                    @taniwharugby

                    Foster says that they have delayed the announcement for a month so we would have known already but for covid-19. Interesting that Cane was approached several months ago about taking the role, probably not long after Foster was appointed. I do remember him saying he had decided on his captain back then.

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                      Whitelock was an AB great, but he needs to prove he's still an automatic starter.

                      Cane was the best option. Hope he stays healthy.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

                        I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

                        Does the AB captain get paid more?

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                        @taniwharugby said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                        While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

                        **> I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

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                        Does the AB captain get paid more?

                        .....and the Scots.

                        Fucken typical. Using a lame excuse like a worldwide pandemic to avoid getting thrashed.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Whitelock was an AB great, but he needs to prove he's still an automatic starter.

                          Cane was the best option. Hope he stays healthy.

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                          @Tim said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                          Whitelock was an AB great, but he needs to prove he's still an automatic starter.

                          Cane was the best option. Hope he stays healthy.

                          He also skipped Super to play in Japan.

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                            Where is BSG? Cane, Williamson and Burling all 1-2 years apart from each other at TBHS? Crazy.

                            Assuming Foster is looking at this with a two year timeline then it's a good appointment. His contract is up then and Cane will be hitting 10 years at pro level. We can cross our fingers he can extend beyond that.

                            I've seen a few comments about "when was the last time we had a skipper who was not the best at their position?". With provincial blinkers removed I'd say every skipper outside of Fitzy and McCaw at least had a very worthy challenger for their spot at some stage in their tenure.

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                            • ARHSA ARHS

                              Good sensible move. Best man for the job currently.

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                              @ARHS said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                              Good sensible move. Best man for the job currently.

                              Probably the best devious slight at an AB captain ever.

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                                Pleased with this.

                                Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                                And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

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                                  Was never really going to be anyone else except maybe Sam Whitelock. Obviously my Chiefs bias plays a part in saying I'm happy with the choice.

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    Pleased with this.

                                    Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                                    And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                    Pleased with this.

                                    Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                                    And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

                                    Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

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                                        @MN5 not emotionally or mentally then. Man knows his limits.

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                                          So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?

                                          If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?

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