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Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain

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    Pleased with this.

    Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

    And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

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      Was never really going to be anyone else except maybe Sam Whitelock. Obviously my Chiefs bias plays a part in saying I'm happy with the choice.

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        Pleased with this.

        Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

        And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

        Pleased with this.

        Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

        And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

        Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

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            @MN5 not emotionally or mentally then. Man knows his limits.

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              So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?

              If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?

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                So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?

                If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?

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                @scribe said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?

                If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?

                No Aaron Smith?

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @scribe said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                  So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?

                  If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?

                  No Aaron Smith?

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                  @canefan yep, considering Smith and Mo'unga are the starter 9/10, I don't see how you couldn't have them there. Taylor would probably be involved in some capacity.

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                    @canefan yep, considering Smith and Mo'unga are the starter 9/10, I don't see how you couldn't have them there. Taylor would probably be involved in some capacity.

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                    @Bones I had those 2 on my list, though I speculated and restricted the final group to 5. No idea how big the group is actually; it’s probably fluid.

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                      Pleased with this.

                      Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                      And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

                      Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

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                      @canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                      Pleased with this.

                      Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                      And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

                      Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

                      World rugby has put up full replay, which I hadn't seen before.

                      Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                        Pleased with this.

                        Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                        And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

                        Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

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                        @canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                        Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

                        His non-selection wasn't the dumbest thing we did on the field that day

                        Not by a long chalk.

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                          @canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                          Pleased with this.

                          Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                          And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

                          Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

                          World rugby has put up full replay, which I hadn't seen before.

                          Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.

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                          @pakman

                          Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.

                          I still think we gave England far too easy a ride in the first 5-10 minutes. Cane's physical presence would have blunted England's attack and stopped them getting on the front foot so early.

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                            Joe Moody missed a lot of tackles that night. Probably his worst performance in a black jersey.

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                              Joe Moody missed a lot of tackles that night. Probably his worst performance in a black jersey.

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                              @akan004 said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                              Joe Moody missed a lot of tackles that night. Probably his worst performance in a black jersey.

                              I guess you haven't heard about that day Joe put on a black v-neck and proceeded to accidentally run over his neighbours cat, dropped his lunch on the floor (carpet) on the way out to the deck and then to top it all off had a sloppy shit where half of it sprayed on that top ledge bit of the bowl. Bought an instant kiwi that was a dud too.

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                                List of captains for the ABs

                                http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/player/list_of_captains.html?id=8;type=team

                                List from Fitzy on, with number of captained matches in brackets
                                Fitz (51)
                                Henderson (1)
                                Marshall (4)
                                Randell (22)
                                Blackadder (10 - honestly thought it was more)
                                Oliver (10)
                                Thorne (23)
                                Umaga (21)
                                McCaw (110)
                                Collins J (3)
                                So'oialo (5)
                                Mealamu (3)
                                Muliana (3)
                                Hore (1)
                                Read (52)
                                Cane (3)
                                Smith B (1)
                                Whitelock S (6)
                                Whitelock L (1)

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                                  Congratulations to Sam Cane. Some achievement to come back from a broken neck in October 2018 to become ABs skipper in 2020

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                                    Let’s hope he can get back to his best. Foster has already said he wants him and Ardie on the park at the same time so I guess it means Ardie to 8.

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                                    @Canes4life Ardie is not an 8 or even a 6. We need more size at these positions.

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                                      @Canes4life Ardie is not an 8 or even a 6. We need more size at these positions.

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                                      @broughie that's what I reckon too. If Sam is starting then Ardie is on the bench. It's pretty disappointing if Ardie is considered the best starting 8 (or 6) in NZ. He's just too small.

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                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/121420121/sam-canes-captaincy-mustnt-impact-ardie-saveas-all-blacks-presence

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                                          Don’t have a problem with it with what’s available.

                                          Now, if only we had some games to see how it goes .

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