Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain
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They should be the 4 loosies in the 23. Sowakula would be good off the bench but you have to start Boshier. He was missed against the Brumbies.
@Bovidae said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
They should be the 4 loosies in the 23. Sowakula would be good off the bench but you have to start Boshier. He was missed against the Brumbies.
Yeah. Karpik has never really shone has he? Good player but nothing commanding.
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@Bovidae said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
They should be the 4 loosies in the 23. Sowakula would be good off the bench but you have to start Boshier. He was missed against the Brumbies.
Yeah. Karpik has never really shone has he? Good player but nothing commanding.
@Crucial said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
@Bovidae said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
They should be the 4 loosies in the 23. Sowakula would be good off the bench but you have to start Boshier. He was missed against the Brumbies.
Yeah. Karpik has never really shone has he? Good player but nothing commanding.
I've said numerous times that Karpik lacks physical presence in SR. You often see him get in good positions at the breakdown to make a turnover but he doesn't have the strength to win that battle. A very good player at NPC level though.
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I'm glad its Cane. He has a good head on his shoulders' But I agree with Bovidae above - think there is room for Boshier who has come of age in 2020, and Sowakula is a physical presence, but Kirii is a player I'd like to see more of. Christie? maybe. Those stats above were telling.
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“Good head on his shoulders”
“Good role player”
“Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
“Not a point of difference”
“Is he the best in his position?”
“Loved by his super rugby team”
“Hard working”Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...
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“Good head on his shoulders”
“Good role player”
“Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
“Not a point of difference”
“Is he the best in his position?”
“Loved by his super rugby team”
“Hard working”Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...
@ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
“Good head on his shoulders”
“Good role player”
“Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
“Not a point of difference”
“Is he the best in his position?”
“Loved by his super rugby team”
“Hard working”Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...
People notice Cane, so no.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
“Good head on his shoulders”
“Good role player”
“Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
“Not a point of difference”
“Is he the best in his position?”
“Loved by his super rugby team”
“Hard working”Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...
People notice Cane, so no.
@antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
@ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
“Good head on his shoulders”
“Good role player”
“Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
“Not a point of difference”
“Is he the best in his position?”
“Loved by his super rugby team”
“Hard working”Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...
People notice Cane, so no.
Retired since 2007 and still so maligned. Him and Caleb Ralph need to form some sort of support group.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
“Good head on his shoulders”
“Good role player”
“Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
“Not a point of difference”
“Is he the best in his position?”
“Loved by his super rugby team”
“Hard working”Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...
People notice Cane, so no.
@antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
@ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
“Good head on his shoulders”
“Good role player”
“Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
“Not a point of difference”
“Is he the best in his position?”
“Loved by his super rugby team”
“Hard working”Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...
People notice Cane, so no.
Who?
I notice the 6’11 Ardie Savea more than Cane.
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Every article 'surprising selection of cane over Whitlock' not one of them mentioning the total shit look of having the AB Captain playing in Japan. Soon as he decided on a playing sabbatical, he can fuck off from being Captain.
@Machpants said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Every article 'surprising selection of cane over Whitlock' not one of them mentioning the total shit look of having the AB Captain playing in Japan. Soon as he decided on a playing sabbatical, he can fuck off from being Captain.
Like McCaw?
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@Machpants said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Every article 'surprising selection of cane over Whitlock' not one of them mentioning the total shit look of having the AB Captain playing in Japan. Soon as he decided on a playing sabbatical, he can fuck off from being Captain.
Like McCaw?
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@sparky said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Which test was Andrew Hore ABs captain for?
It was a club game.
@Crucial said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
@sparky said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Which test was Andrew Hore ABs captain for?
It was a club game.
Mods, can we have a category for "Pithiest Post" in next year's Fernies?
Ta.
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I think Tana's worth only really shone through when he became captain.
As you say he was overshadowed by some of the best players ever but was really only a hairs breadth behind them.
79 games in black across 4 positions, played well in all of them, Captained a series win against the Lions, scored 37 tries despite having Lomu, Cullen, Wilson, Rok and Howlett on the field with him.
Don't forget his defensive work either. Laid down the blueprint for every back to follow in an expectation to not only organise and tackle but to play like a flanker once the tackle was made. No coach came up with that. Tana's tenacity did.
It was that second Lions test that was the making of his real legacy though IMO. First PI captain, under the pump from all quarters. Showed everyone, including players to come that an AB jersey is something to stand up for. I don't think it is a stretch to say that his actions and behaviour as an AB captain added a lot to a greater acceptance of the PI population and contribution to NZ. Showed that they aren't just an add on part, but are proud kiwis as well.
I will never forget him leading the first ever showing of Kapa O Pango. Passion like I've never seen from an AB captain before.
He is up there easily on my list of all-time favourite ABs and (without working out a list) must easily be in a top 20 AB greats list.
One of our best.Oh, and he coached Counties to their first ever Shield
@Crucial said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
I will never forget him leading the first ever showing of Kapa O Pango. Passion like I've never seen from an AB captain before.
His first leading of the Haka in Paris, 2004 was uber-special.
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@Crucial said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
I will never forget him leading the first ever showing of Kapa O Pango. Passion like I've never seen from an AB captain before.
His first leading of the Haka in Paris, 2004 was uber-special.
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@Crucial said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
I will never forget him leading the first ever showing of Kapa O Pango. Passion like I've never seen from an AB captain before.
His first leading of the Haka in Paris, 2004 was uber-special.
@Victor-Meldrew I like to think our Haka went up a notch from that point forward. Taking into account Kapa o Pango not long after.
That was a special one though.
