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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    fuck it, give them the keys. here you go fluffybunnies, you do a better job.

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    @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

    fuck it, give them the keys. here you go fluffybunnies, you do a better job.

    Fuck yeah. Go mad you silly fluffybunnies.

    Captains of industry and commerce think they know how to fix the game, yet almost all of them sat on various boards and committees and apparently let it run into the ground.

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      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12332792

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        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12332792

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        @Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?

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          @nzzp yup you can be stood down without pay due to CV, and the gov picks up the wages. But they've refused the gov wages too.

          SA were up front and gave everyone 3 weeks to either hand their notice in, or accept cuts. Ozzie and NZ have players unions that negotiator on their behalf, dunno about SA.

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            "Rugby players stood down after agent refuses to take pay cut"

            Shocking if true.

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            • M Machpants

              @nzzp yup you can be stood down without pay due to CV, and the gov picks up the wages. But they've refused the gov wages too.

              SA were up front and gave everyone 3 weeks to either hand their notice in, or accept cuts. Ozzie and NZ have players unions that negotiator on their behalf, dunno about SA.

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              @Machpants @NTA

              "Rugby players stood down after agent refuses to take pay cut"

              Take a pay cut or you don't have a job. Seems a bit unusual - generally taking pay cuts is voluntary, and doesn't necessarily count against you if redundancies happen.

              Still, I"m not an expert in Australian employment law so who knows

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?

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                @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                @Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?

                Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                  @Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?

                  Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.

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                  @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                  @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                  @Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?

                  Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.

                  So, how can they turn down the pay cut? If you're collectively contracted, and the collective decide on a pay cut, don't you go the same way?

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @Machpants @NTA

                    "Rugby players stood down after agent refuses to take pay cut"

                    Take a pay cut or you don't have a job. Seems a bit unusual - generally taking pay cuts is voluntary, and doesn't necessarily count against you if redundancies happen.

                    Still, I"m not an expert in Australian employment law so who knows

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                    @nzzp These are unusual circumstances. I don't know the ins and outs of it either, but if the RUPA agreements cover a percentage of RA's income pie as guaranteed for the player pool, and the pie suddenly shrinks, then what other options are there? 🤔

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?

                      Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.

                      So, how can they turn down the pay cut? If you're collectively contracted, and the collective decide on a pay cut, don't you go the same way?

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                      @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                      @Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?

                      Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.

                      So, how can they turn down the pay cut? If you're collectively contracted, and the collective decide on a pay cut, don't you go the same way?

                      Exactly what they've done - you end the contractual relationship.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:

                        @Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?

                        Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.

                        So, how can they turn down the pay cut? If you're collectively contracted, and the collective decide on a pay cut, don't you go the same way?

                        Exactly what they've done - you end the contractual relationship.

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                        @antipodean OK, that makes sense now.

                        So walk away. Wonder if there is a notice period that has to play out.

                        cheers fella

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                        • M Machpants

                          @nzzp yup you can be stood down without pay due to CV, and the gov picks up the wages. But they've refused the gov wages too.

                          SA were up front and gave everyone 3 weeks to either hand their notice in, or accept cuts. Ozzie and NZ have players unions that negotiator on their behalf, dunno about SA.

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                          @Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:

                          @nzzp yup you can be stood down without pay due to CV, and the gov picks up the wages. But they've refused the gov wages too.

                          SA were up front and gave everyone 3 weeks to either hand their notice in, or accept cuts. Ozzie and NZ have players unions that negotiator on their behalf, dunno about SA.

                          That was a deal the Saffa players' unions negotiated, the 21 day clause.

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                            https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-letter-mr-ubiquitous-red-bantana-aka-7-tests-rodriguez

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                              https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-letter-mr-ubiquitous-red-bantana-aka-7-tests-rodriguez

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                              @voodoo what the fuck did i just read? That post would get someone a lot of votes on the "most likely to post drunk" poll

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @voodoo what the fuck did i just read? That post would get someone a lot of votes on the "most likely to post drunk" poll

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                                @mariner4life

                                I hope he has a stable job because LinkedIn rants are pretty fast to show up in google searches.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @voodoo what the fuck did i just read? That post would get someone a lot of votes on the "most likely to post drunk" poll

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                                  @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:

                                  @voodoo what the fuck did i just read? That post would get someone a lot of votes on the "most likely to post drunk" poll

                                  Drunk, or he's been in Oz 30 years and still can't speak English properly ...

                                  I gave up a paragraph in because I really had no idea what he was writing.

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                                    Wow, even eliota fuimaono-sapolu would blush at this rant.......

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      Wow, even eliota fuimaono-sapolu would blush at this rant.......

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                                      @MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:

                                      He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.

                                      That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.

                                      And educated people know that.

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        @MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.

                                        That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.

                                        And educated people know that.

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                                        @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        @MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:

                                        He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.

                                        That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.

                                        And educated people know that.

                                        I re edited my post....not quickly enough to hide it from you.

                                        My Grandparents ( schoolteachers ) are looking down on me in shame.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          @MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.

                                          That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.

                                          And educated people know that.

                                          I re edited my post....not quickly enough to hide it from you.

                                          My Grandparents ( schoolteachers ) are looking down on me in shame.

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                                          @MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          @MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:

                                          He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.

                                          That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.

                                          And educated people know that.

                                          I re edited my post....not quickly enough to hide it from you.

                                          hate it when that happens.

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