Aussie Pro Rugby
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"Rugby players stood down after agent refuses to take pay cut"
Take a pay cut or you don't have a job. Seems a bit unusual - generally taking pay cuts is voluntary, and doesn't necessarily count against you if redundancies happen.
Still, I"m not an expert in Australian employment law so who knows
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?
Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.
So, how can they turn down the pay cut? If you're collectively contracted, and the collective decide on a pay cut, don't you go the same way?
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?
Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.
So, how can they turn down the pay cut? If you're collectively contracted, and the collective decide on a pay cut, don't you go the same way?
Exactly what they've done - you end the contractual relationship.
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@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@nzzp said in Aussie Rugby:
@Tim seems crazy. Is that legal?
Entirely - it forms part of their collective agreement through the player's association.
So, how can they turn down the pay cut? If you're collectively contracted, and the collective decide on a pay cut, don't you go the same way?
Exactly what they've done - you end the contractual relationship.
@antipodean OK, that makes sense now.
So walk away. Wonder if there is a notice period that has to play out.
cheers fella
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@nzzp yup you can be stood down without pay due to CV, and the gov picks up the wages. But they've refused the gov wages too.
SA were up front and gave everyone 3 weeks to either hand their notice in, or accept cuts. Ozzie and NZ have players unions that negotiator on their behalf, dunno about SA.
@Machpants said in Aussie Rugby:
@nzzp yup you can be stood down without pay due to CV, and the gov picks up the wages. But they've refused the gov wages too.
SA were up front and gave everyone 3 weeks to either hand their notice in, or accept cuts. Ozzie and NZ have players unions that negotiator on their behalf, dunno about SA.
That was a deal the Saffa players' unions negotiated, the 21 day clause.
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@voodoo what the fuck did i just read? That post would get someone a lot of votes on the "most likely to post drunk" poll
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@voodoo what the fuck did i just read? That post would get someone a lot of votes on the "most likely to post drunk" poll
I hope he has a stable job because LinkedIn rants are pretty fast to show up in google searches.
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@voodoo what the fuck did i just read? That post would get someone a lot of votes on the "most likely to post drunk" poll
@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@voodoo what the fuck did i just read? That post would get someone a lot of votes on the "most likely to post drunk" poll
Drunk, or he's been in Oz 30 years and still can't speak English properly ...
I gave up a paragraph in because I really had no idea what he was writing.
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@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.
That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.
And educated people know that.
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@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.
That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.
And educated people know that.
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.
That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.
And educated people know that.
I re edited my post....not quickly enough to hide it from you.
My Grandparents ( schoolteachers ) are looking down on me in shame.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.
That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.
And educated people know that.
I re edited my post....not quickly enough to hide it from you.
My Grandparents ( schoolteachers ) are looking down on me in shame.
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.
That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.
And educated people know that.
I re edited my post....not quickly enough to hide it from you.
hate it when that happens.
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@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.
That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.
And educated people know that.
I re edited my post....not quickly enough to hide it from you.
hate it when that happens.
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.
That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.
And educated people know that.
I re edited my post....not quickly enough to hide it from you.
hate it when that happens.
Especially when most dumbasses on here wouldn't have known.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.
That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.
And educated people know that.
I re edited my post....not quickly enough to hide it from you.
hate it when that happens.
Especially when most dumbasses on here wouldn't have known.
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
@MN5 said in Aussie Rugby:
He starts a sentence with "And".......which is an error a five year old wouldn't make.
That's the same sort of error people say about split infinitives, ending sentences with a proposition, etc.
And educated people know that.
I re edited my post....not quickly enough to hide it from you.
hate it when that happens.
Especially when most dumbasses on here wouldn't have known.
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Has the media reported what Hockings and Lucas are earning? Rodda is thought to be on $650K a year which is a nice earner, even with a 60% salary hit.
It sounds like Rodda is pissed off Thorn overlooked him for the Qld captain.
@Bovidae said in Aussie Rugby:
It sounds like Rodda is pissed off Thorn overlooked him for the Qld captain.
It also sounds like Thorn was right.
TBH these guys are getting some bad advice from their management and should be thinking longer term. So fuck 'em.
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Izack Rodda, Harry Hockings and Isaac Lucas have officially parted ways with the Queensland Reds and the group is adamant the Super Rugby franchise had no legal grounds to stand them down after they refused a short-term pay cut. -
Izack Rodda, Harry Hockings and Isaac Lucas have officially parted ways with the Queensland Reds and the group is adamant the Super Rugby franchise had no legal grounds to stand them down after they refused a short-term pay cut.@Bovidae that story just says they wanted to move and their fluffy bunny manager wants his percentage.
