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Blues 2020

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  • DuluthD Duluth

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    @Duluth who was that just behind Beaudy? Was that Ruru or Nock (I just caught a glimpse)

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @Duluth who was that just behind Beaudy? Was that Ruru or Nock (I just caught a glimpse)

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      @nzzp said in Blues 2020:

      @Duluth who was that just behind Beaudy? Was that Ruru or Nock (I just caught a glimpse)

      Looks like Ruru. Wow, only 2-3 secs behind Barrett

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @nzzp said in Blues 2020:

        @Duluth who was that just behind Beaudy? Was that Ruru or Nock (I just caught a glimpse)

        Looks like Ruru. Wow, only 2-3 secs behind Barrett

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        @Duluth yeah was impressive

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          given the nature of that test, i would expect halfbacks to be at the pointy end, with inside backs just behind.

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            given the nature of that test, i would expect halfbacks to be at the pointy end, with inside backs just behind.

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            @mariner4life good call. Small, light, fast dudes will crush it with all the turning and acceleration

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @mariner4life good call. Small, light, fast dudes will crush it with all the turning and acceleration

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              @nzzp not just that, but the specific fitness demands so the positions will dictate how they perform.

              Halfbacks have long, sustained efforts in a game, with inside backs being much the same. Outside backs require explosive efforts followed by recovery.

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                I think there was a Chiefs one posted online a couple of years back. Pretty sure DMac came in at the mid fours and Brodie closer to 5 which is pretty impressive for a big fulla.

                Found it

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                • DuluthD Offline
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                  @mariner4life said in Blues 2020:

                  given the nature of that test, i would expect halfbacks to be at the pointy end, with inside backs just behind.

                  Some loosies too

                  Crusaders 2019 results:

                  Bryn Hall 4.27
                  Ethan Blackadder 4.34
                  Tom Christie 4.36
                  David Havili 4.39
                  Mitch Drummond 4.39
                  Brett Cameron 4.39
                  Braydon Ennor 4.40
                  Jack Goodhue 4.40
                  Tom Sanders 4.40
                  Tim Bateman 4.42
                  Ere Enari 4.42
                  Will Jordan 4.45
                  Sevu Reece 4.45
                  Richie Mo'unga 4.45
                  Mitch Hunt 4.45
                  Scott Barrett 4.45
                  Ryan Crotty 4.46
                  George Bridge 4.47
                  Codie Taylor 4.47
                  Ngane Punivai 4.48
                  Leicester Faingaanuku 4.49
                  Billy Harmon 4.50
                  Ben Funnell 4.53
                  Whetukamokamo Douglas 4.55
                  Mitch Dunshea 4.56
                  Quinten Strange 5.09
                  Kieran Read 5.13
                  Michael Alaalatoa 5.15
                  Manasa Mataele 5.17
                  Joe Moody 5.21
                  Isileli Tu'ungafasi 5.29

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @mariner4life said in Blues 2020:

                    given the nature of that test, i would expect halfbacks to be at the pointy end, with inside backs just behind.

                    Some loosies too

                    Crusaders 2019 results:

                    Bryn Hall 4.27
                    Ethan Blackadder 4.34
                    Tom Christie 4.36
                    David Havili 4.39
                    Mitch Drummond 4.39
                    Brett Cameron 4.39
                    Braydon Ennor 4.40
                    Jack Goodhue 4.40
                    Tom Sanders 4.40
                    Tim Bateman 4.42
                    Ere Enari 4.42
                    Will Jordan 4.45
                    Sevu Reece 4.45
                    Richie Mo'unga 4.45
                    Mitch Hunt 4.45
                    Scott Barrett 4.45
                    Ryan Crotty 4.46
                    George Bridge 4.47
                    Codie Taylor 4.47
                    Ngane Punivai 4.48
                    Leicester Faingaanuku 4.49
                    Billy Harmon 4.50
                    Ben Funnell 4.53
                    Whetukamokamo Douglas 4.55
                    Mitch Dunshea 4.56
                    Quinten Strange 5.09
                    Kieran Read 5.13
                    Michael Alaalatoa 5.15
                    Manasa Mataele 5.17
                    Joe Moody 5.21
                    Isileli Tu'ungafasi 5.29

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                    @Duluth yea, i was talking about backs only. Definitely the workhorse loosies, as opposed to the power loosies.

                    Locks would go well as well i would have thought, slightly hampered by the physics of turning big frames around

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                      Does anyone know if Akira finished?
                      Or did he run up near the cone and stand back waiting 😉

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        Does anyone know if Akira finished?
                        Or did he run up near the cone and stand back waiting 😉

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                        @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

                        Does anyone know if Akira finished?
                        Or did he run up near the cone and stand back waiting 😉

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

                          Does anyone know if Akira finished?
                          Or did he run up near the cone and stand back waiting 😉

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                          @mariner4life said in Blues 2020:

                          @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

                          Does anyone know if Akira finished?
                          Or did he run up near the cone and stand back waiting 😉

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                            Some more comments on bronco times:

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121559074/super-rugby-whos-the-fastest-of-them-all-how-beauden-barretts-record-time-stacks-up

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                              I think it's good we start seeing these numbers, rugby seems to have been reluctant to give out stats on training figures, and is only been in recent years they have started giving more info and also better access to in-play stats too.

                              I am a bit of a nerd for that stuff, so always look at the American sports and wish we had access to that sort of data, given I assume coaches must have access to it all (I recall years back when Wayne SMith used to talk about passive/dominant tackles and they talked about a program they used to analise player stats)

                              I did my L2 coaching last year, and we had access to some of the Super rugby tools in a video session and was great to see, as basic as it seemed.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                I think it's good we start seeing these numbers, rugby seems to have been reluctant to give out stats on training figures, and is only been in recent years they have started giving more info and also better access to in-play stats too.

                                I am a bit of a nerd for that stuff, so always look at the American sports and wish we had access to that sort of data, given I assume coaches must have access to it all (I recall years back when Wayne SMith used to talk about passive/dominant tackles and they talked about a program they used to analise player stats)

                                I did my L2 coaching last year, and we had access to some of the Super rugby tools in a video session and was great to see, as basic as it seemed.

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                                @taniwharugby It’s another thing that helps fan engagement. If you’re not interested, no bother. But if you are, it’s another thing to argue about in the pub on Thursday onwards

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                                  From Gill's comments they must do the bronco test in pairs, and Ruru was fortunate he was paired with BB.

                                  In the Chiefs, DMac and Weber would be a good pairing to nudge BB's record.

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                                    From Gill's comments they must do the bronco test in pairs, and Ruru was fortunate he was paired with BB.

                                    In the Chiefs, DMac and Weber would be a good pairing to nudge BB's record.

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                                    @Bovidae usually it is done with multiple people, is def not as good on your own or with someone a bit slower than you (eg BB with Tu'ungafasi)

                                    When doing fitness with TR Jnr last year I was a good 30 -40 sec slower (as I was quite a bit quicker than him) than i was when I did it with his team who had a couple of kids that do well under 5 mins.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Bovidae usually it is done with multiple people, is def not as good on your own or with someone a bit slower than you (eg BB with Tu'ungafasi)

                                      When doing fitness with TR Jnr last year I was a good 30 -40 sec slower (as I was quite a bit quicker than him) than i was when I did it with his team who had a couple of kids that do well under 5 mins.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2020:

                                      @Bovidae usually it is done with multiple people, is def not as good on your own or with someone a bit slower than you (eg BB with Tu'ungafasi)

                                      When doing fitness with TR Jnr last year I was a good 30 -40 sec slower (as I was quite a bit quicker than him) than i was when I did it with his team who had a couple of kids that do well under 5 mins.

                                      You still smoking him in sprints ? great work, he's a teenager now isn't he ? I hammered the boys in a sprint over the weekend but only cos the other half was watching.

                                      Strange seeing Read reasonably low in that Crusaders list.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        From Gill's comments they must do the bronco test in pairs, and Ruru was fortunate he was paired with BB.

                                        In the Chiefs, DMac and Weber would be a good pairing to nudge BB's record.

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                                        muddyriver
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                                        @Bovidae its an individual fitness test. no one is helping you run faster. its just a group shuttle run

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                                          @Bovidae its an individual fitness test. no one is helping you run faster. its just a group shuttle run

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                                          @muddyriver said in Blues 2020:

                                          @Bovidae its an individual fitness test. no one is helping you run faster. its just a group shuttle run

                                          My point was more related to what we often see at the Olympics when some athletes do PBs as they are "pulled along" by faster competitors in an effort to keep up. Basically for the reason @taniwharugby says.

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