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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #1089

    Who doesn't want to watch a sneaky dropped scrum for a penalty and then 40 hitups one off the ruck for a chance at a penalty or drop goal?

    Why not just end with the scores tied and then the ref can say which team irritated him the most.

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  • pukunuiP Offline
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    #1090

    Golden try might be ok. But golden point can stay in league.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #1091

    If you want entertainment value have a kicking competition like the final tie breaker in a RWC knockout match. Some of those players with low numbers on their jerseys fancy themselves as goal kickers.

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    #1092

    @pukunui said in Super Rugby 2020:

    Golden try might be ok. But golden point can stay in league.

    I like this idea, with teams dropping a non-front row player every 2 minutes (and no replacements allowed).

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  • voodooV Offline
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    #1093

    What are we solving for? Why is splitting points so bad in a season-long comp? Do we desperately need a winner of every game, every week?

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    #1094

    I am against the golden point proposal. Have seen some real travesties in cricket, league and soccer trying this. Very cruel, especially if one team has a fresh long-range drop-kicker to bring on, while the other team has a fatigued kicker whose hammy is slightly strained. A draw is a perfectly fair result. Just make sure that everyone knows the tie-breaker rules well before it counts. The team that has the most to lose will then take the greatest risks to win in the closing stages. The team more likely to progress on tie-breaker will be more conservative in comparison. I am happy with it that way - and none of the fan abuse that soccer piles on those involved in a losing shoot-out. This seems designed purely for TV ratings, regardless of impact on the players.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #1095

    @voodoo haha yep, given there are reasonable methods to determine the victor if they are tied at the end of a long season (points for/against, Bonus Points, Tries scored, Cards and only then does it come back to the on field result isnt it?) I dont see why a game has to be determined on the field by something that is just as likely to come down to dumb luck or worse, cynical/negative drawing of a penalty, which they had 80 minutes to do already.

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    #1096

    It's an insult to the intellect of the fan; you can only be entertained if there is a victor.

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    wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
    #1097

    I can picture the outcry now if they didn't do a golden point and the winner of the Super Rugby Aotearoa was decided by for/against (I don't mean on the Fern).

    I don't see the big deal with using this unique competition to trial some things.

    Murphy's Law will probably mean there won't be any draws now (after 80 mins).

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    #1098

    I emailed Kayo (Fox) to ask if they're playing Aotearoa Super Rugby and they replied they don't have it.

    I hope it's just a rights negotiation thing ...

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #1099

    @KiwiMurph I don't see how it would guarantee teams not being on the same points at the end of the comp. Wouldn't it be just as likely?

    Might need one of the numbers guys here. @Rapido or @nzzp ?

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @KiwiMurph I don't see how it would guarantee teams not being on the same points at the end of the comp. Wouldn't it be just as likely?

    Might need one of the numbers guys here. @Rapido or @nzzp ?

    you're spot on. In a 5 team comp, the chance of 2 getting to the same points has to be high. Ironically, a draw may separate folk more than defined win/loss 🙂

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @KiwiMurph I don't see how it would guarantee teams not being on the same points at the end of the comp. Wouldn't it be just as likely?

    Might need one of the numbers guys here. @Rapido or @nzzp ?

    Yeah, a team might win a match in golden point, which puts them on equal points as another team (who won in real time), then the golden point team might have more tries which is the tie breaker. So basically a team that had a draw might prevail over a team that had an actual 'win' on the table. That seems a bit messed up.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to Bones on last edited by KiwiMurph
    #1102

    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @KiwiMurph I don't see how it would guarantee teams not being on the same points at the end of the comp. Wouldn't it be just as likely?

    Might need one of the numbers guys here. @Rapido or @nzzp ?

    I didn't say guarantee but fair point.

    I guess bonus points become a big factor - presumably you would get a losing bonus point as a golden point loser (for being within 7) but the winner would be very unlikely to get a winning bonus point (unlikely to have 3 tries more than opposition and end up in golden point)

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    #1103

    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2020:

    I emailed Kayo (Fox) to ask if they're playing Aotearoa Super Rugby and they replied they don't have it.

    I hope it's just a rights negotiation thing ...

    I would have thought they'd dying for content. That said, they're barely arsed to pay any cash for rugby featuring Australian teams, so why would they fork out anything for rugby featuring NZ teams only?

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    #1104

    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2020:

    I emailed Kayo (Fox) to ask if they're playing Aotearoa Super Rugby and they replied they don't have it.

    I hope it's just a rights negotiation thing ...

    Have you checked Rugbypass?

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    #1105

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2020:

    I emailed Kayo (Fox) to ask if they're playing Aotearoa Super Rugby and they replied they don't have it.

    I hope it's just a rights negotiation thing ...

    Have you checked Rugbypass?

    Yeah, I emailed them about an hour ago. Hopefully if Fox don't have the rights then we'll be able to play them in Oz through Rugbypass.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Nepia on last edited by taniwharugby
    #1106

    @Nepia I'll live stream it on FB for you if you want, laptop > phone > FB

    I know, I'm a GC.

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    replied to Nepia on last edited by
    #1107

    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2020:

    I emailed Kayo (Fox) to ask if they're playing Aotearoa Super Rugby and they replied they don't have it.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #1108

    Given everyone is strapped for cash I’m not surprised Fox Sports aren’t forking out for this NZ comp.

    I like the golden point rule. Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing 😎

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