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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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    If a 32 man squad is retained for the next Spring, what could it look like ?

    LHP : Moody, Tuinukuafe (if fit. If not, Hodgman ?)
    THP : Lomax, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala
    Hookers : Taylor, Coles, Aumua
    Locks : Tuipolutu, Whitelock, Barrett (if fit. If not : ?)
    Loose forwards : Robinson (If fit. If not, Grace or Ioane), Papali'i, Cane, Savea, Sotutu, Mikaele-Tuu
    Halfbacks : Smith, Perenara, Weber
    1st Fives : Mo'unga, Barrett
    2nd Fives and Centres : Lienert-Brown, Goodhue, Ennor, Ioane
    Back three : Clarke, Telea, Reece, Jordan, MacKenzie.
    Utility back : Barrett (or Havili)

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      Wrote down this squad and was going to post on another thread. A bit larger than yours (35) so its a bit of a training squad. Potentially lots of new ABs. Taking a bit of a punt on the Highlanders Locks TBH.

      Props: Moody, Tu'inukuafe, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Lomax
      Hookers: Taylor, Coles, Coltman
      Locks: S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Parkinson, Dickson
      Back Row: Cane (c), Savea, Frizell, Grace, A Ioane, Papali'i, Mikaele-Tu'u, Sotutu
      Half Backs: A Smith, Perenera, Hall
      First Five: Beauden Barrett, Mo'unga
      Midfield: ALB, Goodhue, Faiane, R Ioane
      Back Three: C Clarke, Reece, Jordan, J Barrett (might shift to midfield), M Telea, McKenzie

      ————------

      Bubbling under/ Worth consideration: Hodgman, Aumua, Strange, D. Hunt, Gibson, Weber, Black, Havili, Laumape, Ennor, Bridge.

      —------------------

      Injured/Unavailable : Moli, Ta'avao, S Barrett, Retallick, Robinson, Lentjes, Jacobson, J Ioane

      ---—-----------

      Retired/Gone abroad: Todd, Read, SBW, Crotty, B Smith.

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        Wrote down this squad and was going to post on another thread. A bit larger than yours (35) so its a bit of a training squad. Potentially lots of new ABs. Taking a bit of a punt on the Highlanders Locks TBH.

        Props: Moody, Tu'inukuafe, Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Lomax
        Hookers: Taylor, Coles, Coltman
        Locks: S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Parkinson, Dickson
        Back Row: Cane (c), Savea, Frizell, Grace, A Ioane, Papali'i, Mikaele-Tu'u, Sotutu
        Half Backs: A Smith, Perenera, Hall
        First Five: Beauden Barrett, Mo'unga
        Midfield: ALB, Goodhue, Faiane, R Ioane
        Back Three: C Clarke, Reece, Jordan, J Barrett (might shift to midfield), M Telea, McKenzie

        ————------

        Bubbling under/ Worth consideration: Hodgman, Aumua, Strange, D. Hunt, Gibson, Weber, Black, Havili, Laumape, Ennor, Bridge.

        —------------------

        Injured/Unavailable : Moli, Ta'avao, S Barrett, Retallick, Robinson, Lentjes, Jacobson, J Ioane

        ---—-----------

        Retired/Gone abroad: Todd, Read, SBW, Crotty, B Smith.

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        @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        Hunt

        I can't see why either of the Highlanders ones would be considered bubbling under when you consider the wealth of talent in front of them.

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          @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Hunt

          I can't see why either of the Highlanders ones would be considered bubbling under when you consider the wealth of talent in front of them.

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          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Hunt

          I can't see why either of the Highlanders ones would be considered bubbling under when you consider the wealth of talent in front of them.

          @sparky is Grant Fox...

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            @Bones Possible injuries and keeping guys NZ-based.

            By the 2023 RWC, the ABs will need 40-50 international class players to take on SA, England and France.

            Hunt has an excellent work rate. Frizell has all the skills. If he can't show them then he'll fall down the pecking order and fast.

            Lots of talent out there. Probably will need some new players at Hooker, Lock, Half Back and First Five by next RWC.

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              If a 32 man squad is retained for the next Spring, what could it look like ?

              LHP : Moody, Tuinukuafe (if fit. If not, Hodgman ?)
              THP : Lomax, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala
              Hookers : Taylor, Coles, Aumua
              Locks : Tuipolutu, Whitelock, Barrett (if fit. If not : ?)
              Loose forwards : Robinson (If fit. If not, Grace or Ioane), Papali'i, Cane, Savea, Sotutu, Mikaele-Tuu
              Halfbacks : Smith, Perenara, Weber
              1st Fives : Mo'unga, Barrett
              2nd Fives and Centres : Lienert-Brown, Goodhue, Ennor, Ioane
              Back three : Clarke, Telea, Reece, Jordan, MacKenzie.
              Utility back : Barrett (or Havili)

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              @cgrant Not sure about Weber or Ennor. Not showing the same form yet as 2019. Think Robinson might be out for the season. But the rest of that squad looks right.

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                @Bones Possible injuries and keeping guys NZ-based.

                By the 2023 RWC, the ABs will need 40-50 international class players to take on SA, England and France.

                Hunt has an excellent work rate. Frizell has all the skills. If he can't show them then he'll fall down the pecking order and fast.

                Lots of talent out there. Probably will need some new players at Hooker, Lock, Half Back and First Five by next RWC.

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                @sparky so not Mitch?

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                  Havili should be in the squad. Likely at the expense of Reece/Telea/Ennor. Can't see Jordie being dropped though.

                  My starting side would have Beauds at 10, Havili at 15 and Mounga on the bench. Prolly alongside Perenara and Reiko.

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                    @sparky so not Mitch?

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                    @Bones Mitch Brown? Good player, but an All Black?

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                      Havili should be in the squad. Likely at the expense of Reece/Telea/Ennor. Can't see Jordie being dropped though.

                      My starting side would have Beauds at 10, Havili at 15 and Mounga on the bench. Prolly alongside Perenara and Reiko.

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                      @Bones Great to see David Havili back. I rate him (he should have been in ABs squad last year) and perhaps by the time of Bledisloe he will be ready to play international Rugby again, but his long-term health is the priority. I'd give him a long off-season.

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                        @Bones Mitch Brown? Good player, but an All Black?

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                        @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @Bones Mitch Brown? Good player, but an All Black?

                        Mate, you named Hunt as bubbling under. There's more than one...

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                          @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Bones Mitch Brown? Good player, but an All Black?

                          Mate, you named Hunt as bubbling under. There's more than one...

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                          @Bones Mitch Karpik. Add him and Lachlan Boshier to Bubbling Under I suppose. Good Super Rugby Players who give 100%.

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                            @Bones Mitch Karpik. Add him and Lachlan Boshier to Bubbling Under I suppose. Good Super Rugby Players who give 100%.

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                            @sparky I give up.

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                              @sparky I give up.

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                              @Bones Mitch Dunshea? I rate Dickson and Parkinson more.

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                                @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @Bones Mitch Brown? Good player, but an All Black?

                                Mate, you named Hunt as bubbling under. There's more than one...

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                                @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @Bones Mitch Brown? Good player, but an All Black?

                                Mate, you named Hunt as bubbling under. There's more than one...

                                Mitch Hunt for the ABs? Only if the other First Five option is Brett Cameron.

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                                  Bones
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                                  I'm thinking Gilbert could be in with a shot.

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                                    I'm thinking Gilbert could be in with a shot.

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                                    @Bones FABSG

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                                      @Bones FABSG

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                                      @Snowy that's not how you spell butt.

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                                        I reckon they might get Otere Black in as an apprentice, but otherwise it's going to be a green squad if they pick on form. A fair few edge ABs not playing well. And once again were short of locks and props, tight 5 is our problem area (tight 6 if you include a tall and/or smashing people 6).

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                                          I reckon they might get Otere Black in as an apprentice, but otherwise it's going to be a green squad if they pick on form. A fair few edge ABs not playing well. And once again were short of locks and props, tight 5 is our problem area (tight 6 if you include a tall and/or smashing people 6).

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                                          @Machpants plenty of potential 6s about who could step up.

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