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<p>I got shot in the balls defending a black flag, but at half time we swapped sides and I had to defend white flag, I had no preference over which flag I defended, although it was just paint ball!</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="559498" data-time="1455849256">
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<p>Sheesh, your idea of going off and mine have a completely different threshold - but considering you're a noted rightard it's unsurprising you wouldn't go off at the mention of leftard. ;)</p>
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<p>Just admit to it and move on you dirty leftard.</p>
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<p>Admit to being a leftard? Hell, I'd tattoo that on my forehead for the off chance someone might mistake me for a rightard.</p> -
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<p><strong>Admit to being a leftard</strong>? Hell, I'd tattoo that on my forehead for the off chance someone might mistake me for a rightard.</p>
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<p> :mocking: You're not really a leftard Nepia, Bomber Bradbury is a leftard, Chris Trotter is a leftard, John Campbell is a massive leftard. Lets look at how having a leftard govt pans out.........</p>
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<p><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">The bank reported that Venezuelan inflation hit 180.9 percent in 2015, one of the highest rates in the world, while the economy contracted 5.7 percent.</span></p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy-idUSKCN0VR1RI'>http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-economy-idUSKCN0VR1RI</a></p>
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<p>Anyway, back to the flag. I'm still gutted by the RSA backing the status quo. They don't put the current flag on soldiers graves, they have a fern on them. Its a damn shame that this has become a political football for Key hating leftards and conservative people who think Australias flag 2.0 should represent us.</p> -
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Fuck that is depressing reading. It seems like the stupider the person the more certain they are that they're right.</p></blockquote>
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<p>The worst thing about it all (well I don't know about worst, maybe being a drama queen), but I read somewhere that support for the current flag is highest among young people.</p>
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<p>my son is in the Army and he is posting stuff on FB about the soldiers dying under the flag, despite so often the image is of a grave with the fern...but his step-father is an army man and his father before him...</p>
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<p>Just reading the comments makes me think New Zealand shouldn't have a fucking flag at all. Whining fluffybunnys. Like this <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.facebook.com/nzflag/videos/10153951003712002/?comment_id=10153952446822002&reply_comment_id=10153952733392002&comment_tracking={"tn"%3A"R9"}'>Alex Ferguson fuckstick</a> who is unaware Facebook is no longer 'couple of dickheads sitting in a garage'.</p>
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<p>Everytime I think I'd make a benevolent dictator I read social media commentary and realise I'd be a murderous tyrant.</p>
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<p>If I was ever made dictator I'd make "Brogan " drop the r from his name. What an arseclown.</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(233,234,237);"><span style="font-weight:bold;">Brogan Conway</span></span><span style="color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(233,234,237);"> <span><span>Dont change the flag john key is a twat u really want spent on a stupid flag our grandparents faught for our flag and country and u wana change it we have better things to spend it on</span></span></span></p> -
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<p>my son is in the Army and he is posting stuff on FB about the soldiers dying under the flag, despite so often the image is of a grave with the fern...but his step-father is an army man and his father before him...</p>
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<p>Ask him what this is all about.</p>
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<p><img src="http://www.brewster.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/War-graves-by-moonlight.jpg" alt="War-graves-by-moonlight.jpg"></p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.brewster.co.nz/2011/07/143-war-graves-by-moonlight/'>http://www.brewster.co.nz/2011/07/143-war-graves-by-moonlight/</a></p> -
<p>ha, I tend to stay away from getting into political stuff on FB, although there are the odd complete fucktards (trump both left and right tards) that I simply cant ignore on some pages.</p>
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Admit to being a leftard? Hell, I'd tattoo that on my forehead for the off chance someone might mistake me for a rightard.</p></blockquote>
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<p>No chance of that. Being Maori, your neck wouldn't be red enough.</p>
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<p>If it wasn't for Damien McKenzie, Tony Brown, my two blonde cousins, and MN5's missus I'd be the whitest Maori around. ;)</p>
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<p>Also, being Maori hasn't hindered Hekia and Paula in their quest to be the rightiest, tightiest in the Nats. </p> -
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<p>That's unsurprising given how traditional and predisposed to group think it is as an institution.<br>
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The problem for a flag change is the most obvious one is taken. I'd have simply gone with removing the Blue Ensign:<br>
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Even of the proposed alternatives I'd clean it up:<br>
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<p>I'd still like a better fern design but that's better.</p>
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<p>I was originally going to stick with the old flag in the second round but I've come around since then. I still don't think it's a great flag but I figure it'll be a hell of a lot easier to make a few changes to the new flag than it'll be to go through this process all over again.</p>
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<p>Really have to say this process has been a mess though. Would've been a hell of a lot better to have a refinement process between the first and second rounds IMO.</p> -
<p>Check out the comments here...</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.facebook.com/CheckpointRNZ/videos/1697716397137456/'>https://www.facebook.com/CheckpointRNZ/videos/1697716397137456/</a></p>
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<p>(video is meh... just John Campbell being a tool)</p> -
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Check out the comments here...<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="https://www.facebook.com/CheckpointRNZ/videos/1697716397137456/">https://www.facebook.com/CheckpointRNZ/videos/1697716397137456/</a><br><br>
(video is meh... just John Campbell being a tool)</p></blockquote>
Cheers for that, when I take over the country there's a list of people to chuck into the reeducation camps .<br><br>
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<p>Are people like Key, DC etc not allowed to express thier opinions, but the the anti-brigade are?</p>
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<p>some of the comments on Stuff and FB are quite disturbing, it makes you wonder how the hatred for Key got to this point, given how popular he is as a leader with recent polls showing he is still up there.</p> -
<p>Perhaps it is because this is the first right wing govt since social media took hold?</p>
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<p>possibly helped create all the keyboard warriors and tough guys, either way I see comments every day on social media that I cant believe these people would say in real life.</p>
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<p>Check out the comments here...</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.facebook.com/CheckpointRNZ/videos/1697716397137456/'>https://www.facebook.com/CheckpointRNZ/videos/1697716397137456/</a></p>
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<p>(video is meh... just John Campbell being a tool)</p>
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<p>Well you could have put a health warning or something on that. That's given me brain fever or something. No other explanation for the 30 IQ points I lost when I clicked on the link.</p>
