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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

    @voodoo I know you are not talking Super form, but I think a great example of what he brings is his contribution to Jordan's chip and chase try on the weekend. He did what he did with minimal fuss and flamboyance, but he quickly drew in two defenders before a nicely timed pass. When he does stuff like that it looks so easy, therefore it can escape people's attention.

    I have a mate that says the same thing about Goodhue. He doesn't see the fuss. I agree last year was not his best, but like someone else said he was mucked around by coaches who couldn't settle on a combination.

    And comparing him to Smith, how old was Smith before we all started fornicating over him?

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    @Crazy-Horse said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo I know you are not talking Super form, but I think a great example of what he brings is his contribution to Jordan's chip and chase try on the weekend. He did what he did with minimal fuss and flamboyance, but he quickly drew in two defenders before a nicely timed pass. When he does stuff like that it looks so easy, therefore it can escape people's attention.

    I have a mate that says the same thing about Goodhue. He doesn't see the fuss. I agree last year was not his best, but like someone else said he was mucked around by coaches who couldn't settle on a combination.

    And comparing him to Smith, how old was Smith before we all started fornicating over him?

    Not only that, following on from the greatest AB midfield combo ever was always gonna be tough. As fans are our standards that ridiculously high ? It’s a good thing the food bills from last year have gone and simplified things.

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    • voodooV voodoo

      @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

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      #179

      @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

      One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
      Same solid self. Unflustered.

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        @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

        One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
        Same solid self. Unflustered.

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        #180

        @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

        One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
        Same solid self. Unflustered.

        A ringing endorsement

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        • voodooV voodoo

          @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

          One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
          Same solid self. Unflustered.

          A ringing endorsement

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          #181

          @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

          One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
          Same solid self. Unflustered.

          A ringing endorsement

          It's easy to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys

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          • voodooV voodoo

            @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

            One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
            Same solid self. Unflustered.

            A ringing endorsement

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            #182

            @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

            One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
            Same solid self. Unflustered.

            A ringing endorsement

            So what does he have to do then?

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            • BonesB Bones

              @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

              One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
              Same solid self. Unflustered.

              A ringing endorsement

              So what does he have to do then?

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              #183

              @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

              One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
              Same solid self. Unflustered.

              A ringing endorsement

              So what does he have to do then?

              Run lines like Conrad, hit hard in defence like Frank, distribute like Robinson, get over the ball like Tana....that’s all

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

                One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
                Same solid self. Unflustered.

                A ringing endorsement

                So what does he have to do then?

                Run lines like Conrad, hit hard in defence like Frank, distribute like Robinson, get over the ball like Tana....that’s all

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                @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                distribute like Robinson

                You couldn't help yourself could you.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  distribute like Robinson

                  You couldn't help yourself could you.

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                  #185

                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  distribute like Robinson

                  You couldn't help yourself could you.

                  He mistyped Robertson

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                    I think Goodhue is fine, does everything well, not exceptional at anything, just a solid center.
                    Until someone exceptional does come along, I like his mistake free play.
                    12 has to be ALB, but he seems really out of form this season.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      distribute like Robinson

                      You couldn't help yourself could you.

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                      #187

                      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      distribute like Robinson

                      You couldn't help yourself could you.

                      I hope he cleaned his keyboard and monitor afterwards.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

                        One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
                        Same solid self. Unflustered.

                        A ringing endorsement

                        So what does he have to do then?

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #188

                        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

                        One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
                        Same solid self. Unflustered.

                        A ringing endorsement

                        So what does he have to do then?

                        Like I've said a few times, I'm not advocating for anyone else at this point. He's a good 13 and deserves his spot. I just think he has become a bit overrated for simply being solid.

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                        • voodooV voodoo

                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

                          One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
                          Same solid self. Unflustered.

                          A ringing endorsement

                          So what does he have to do then?

                          Like I've said a few times, I'm not advocating for anyone else at this point. He's a good 13 and deserves his spot. I just think he has become a bit overrated for simply being solid.

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                          #189

                          @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

                          One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
                          Same solid self. Unflustered.

                          A ringing endorsement

                          So what does he have to do then?

                          Like I've said a few times, I'm not advocating for anyone else at this point. He's a good 13 and deserves his spot. I just think he has become a bit overrated for simply being solid.

                          I can't figure out if you're talking about Smith now. 😉

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                          • J junior

                            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Jordie Barrett showed his range of skills. He must be a probability for the AB squad when it is eventually named.

                            Yeah, if he carries on like this he's a shoe in.

                            McKenzie on the other hand is at a real risk of missing out if he continues with his current vein of form.

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                            @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            McKenzie on the other hand is at a real risk of missing out if he continues with his current vein of form.

                            Shocker of a game against the 'Canes - apart from one brilliant tackle.

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                            • voodooV voodoo

                              @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

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                              @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

                              Thought his form in RWC2019 was as impressive as any other AB - probably better.

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                              • C cgrant

                                The 13 jersey should be for Goodhue or Rieko Ioane. I know the latter is considered by many as a left wing but his last performances there in black were disappointing. He seems to have lost his former speed. Moreover, with Clarke and Telea (formerly a left wing with NH and the Blues) in outstanding form, there are exciting options for the 11 jersey. And I did not even mentioned Fainganu'uku nor Alaimalo.

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                                @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                The 13 jersey should be for Goodhue or Rieko Ioane.

                                Have to disagree. The last thing we need is another 4 years of buggering about with midfield combinations. Stick with Goodhue/ALB and build the understanding.

                                That said, I'd want Reiko in the squad covering 11, 13 & 14. He had a shit 2019 in black but is just too a player to abandon.

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

                                  One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
                                  Same solid self. Unflustered.

                                  A ringing endorsement

                                  So what does he have to do then?

                                  Run lines like Conrad, hit hard in defence like Frank, distribute like Robinson, get over the ball like Tana....that’s all

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                                  #193

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

                                  One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
                                  Same solid self. Unflustered.

                                  A ringing endorsement

                                  So what does he have to do then?

                                  Run lines like Conrad, hit hard in defence like Frank, distribute like Robinson, get over the ball like Tana....that’s all

                                  Mark Robinson was hardly one of the great AB centres. His career was just too brief. That guy that @taniwharugby knows though, boy oh boy I hear he was a good un.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

                                    One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
                                    Same solid self. Unflustered.

                                    A ringing endorsement

                                    So what does he have to do then?

                                    Run lines like Conrad, hit hard in defence like Frank, distribute like Robinson, get over the ball like Tana....that’s all

                                    Mark Robinson was hardly one of the great AB centres. His career was just too brief. That guy that @taniwharugby knows though, boy oh boy I hear he was a good un.

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                                    @MN5 so his international career was two Tests in 2000 and seven in 2002. That's rancid bait for @taniwharugby

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      distribute like Robinson

                                      You couldn't help yourself could you.

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                                      @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      distribute like Robinson

                                      You couldn't help yourself could you.

                                      It’s always good to keep you fellas on your toes 😉

                                      So when do we name this first AB team, I’ve got a few suggestions...

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        The 13 jersey should be for Goodhue or Rieko Ioane.

                                        Have to disagree. The last thing we need is another 4 years of buggering about with midfield combinations. Stick with Goodhue/ALB and build the understanding.

                                        That said, I'd want Reiko in the squad covering 11, 13 & 14. He had a shit 2019 in black but is just too a player to abandon.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        The 13 jersey should be for Goodhue or Rieko Ioane.

                                        Have to disagree. The last thing we need is another 4 years of buggering about with midfield combinations. Stick with Goodhue/ALB and build the understanding.

                                        That said, I'd want Reiko in the squad covering 11, 13 & 14. He had a shit 2019 in black but is just too a player to abandon.

                                        I agree that the ALB / Goodhue midfield is our best currently, but I wonder if they are a bit samey. Would our midfield be better served, in the longer-term, with someone else in the 12 or 13 jersey? Neither of them are real bruisers. Nor are they super quick with the ability to skin someone on the outside. Neither of them is a second play-maker who can take some of the load off our 10.

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                                        • J junior

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          The 13 jersey should be for Goodhue or Rieko Ioane.

                                          Have to disagree. The last thing we need is another 4 years of buggering about with midfield combinations. Stick with Goodhue/ALB and build the understanding.

                                          That said, I'd want Reiko in the squad covering 11, 13 & 14. He had a shit 2019 in black but is just too a player to abandon.

                                          I agree that the ALB / Goodhue midfield is our best currently, but I wonder if they are a bit samey. Would our midfield be better served, in the longer-term, with someone else in the 12 or 13 jersey? Neither of them are real bruisers. Nor are they super quick with the ability to skin someone on the outside. Neither of them is a second play-maker who can take some of the load off our 10.

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                                          @junior the resurgence of ALB last year seemed to coincide with him getting a lot of the pace back that he used to have - when he used to be capable of playing wing.

                                          I see where you're coming from though...Josh Ioane at 12? Or just Mounga shuffles out to make room for Mitch Hunt.

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