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  • DuluthD Duluth

    Interview with Bryce Lawrence starts ~7:40

    He discusses the new rule interpretations, the feedback process between coaches (SR and Foster) and the referees.

    Ben O'Keefe probably isn't too happy about this. They discuss three errors and they are all his

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    @Duluth I feel vindicated. Pleasing to see the collaboration and honesty to get the game where we all want it to be too.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

      @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2020:

      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

      Oh and plenty of whinging about all the "shit" refs. So it appears there isn't a half decent ref in NZ as a ref is always deemed not worthy by groups of people.

      Our poor players having to deal with such substandard ineptitude. These games are clearly free of infringements yet that's not how they're being reffed.

      Consistency in rulings is what you want. Uncertainty doesn't lead to a good game.

      I don' t think the current group are terrible, but I don't think they are top drawer either. Great referees are hard to find these days, and the laws haven't helped for the last decade or so

      I haven't noticed inconsistency. I've thought the refs have been doing well - dealing with new focuses and players just not adjusting. I feel like the new sport now is to try and lambast the refs.

      If teams are being hammered in the first half and then not in the second - hey maybe they're adjusting? They were the winning teams right?

      I dunno, I've just been re-watching the Blues Chiefs and there's a whole lot of stuff being let go and occasionally pinged. Clear and obvious is always called, but some of the calls are super harsh at times, and then tolerant other times. I'm all for clarifying the tackle/collision area, and applying the laws is hard, but I think the refs could do better.

      Honestly, it is consistency; all players and fans want to know is where the boundaries are, and are they consistently enforced. I think it's beter than previous years, but when we're averaging three times as many penalties as scrums in the game, refs are going to come under some scrutiny.

      I think not replaying penalties is good for the casual fan, but super irritating for anoraks like me.

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      @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2020:

      I think not replaying penalties is good for the casual fan, but super irritating for anoraks like me.

      I'm just replaying them all myself and will need a new remote very soon.

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        Australia’s professional rugby players have rejected a new wage cut proposal by Rugby Australia, and on Tuesday night suggested sitting out the domestic competition to start on July 3 if they’re not paid more.

        The threat is of such substance that Melbourne Rebels players, booked on a flight to Canberra on Friday at 10am to play the Brumbies on July 4, are openly talking about not boarding the plane.

        The alarming development has come after RA asked players to take another pay cut until the end of the year.

        All 192 professional players had accepted an average 60 per cent pay cut until September 30, in the belief that after RA had secured a broadcast deal for the new domestic Super tournament, they would be reinstated to full pay.

        But despite a revised deal with broadcaster Fox Sports for the five-team Super Rugby AU tournament, cash-stricken RA has asked players to accept a 40 per cent pay cut from October 1 until December 31.

        It means since April, the players will only have earned half their agreed salaries for the remainder of 2020 amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

        The players have said they’re only prepared to accept an average 20 per cent pay cut.

        https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/rugby-stars-threaten-to-strike/news-story/184703675c8454b85b72db2bd07fda2e

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        • TimT Away
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          Some interesting analysis of week 2 of SRA:

          https://tiponrugby.substack.com/p/jordan-rules

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            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-results-from-kiwi-player-poll-reveals-new-zealands-biggest-grub-best-and-worst-super-rugby-referees/

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              For those who get easily offended don't watch the following. Jimmy Marshall obviously has too much time on his hands.

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              • BonesB Bones

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-results-from-kiwi-player-poll-reveals-new-zealands-biggest-grub-best-and-worst-super-rugby-referees/

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                @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-results-from-kiwi-player-poll-reveals-new-zealands-biggest-grub-best-and-worst-super-rugby-referees/

                I'm truly shocked neither Ioane brother even got a mention for biggest grub.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-results-from-kiwi-player-poll-reveals-new-zealands-biggest-grub-best-and-worst-super-rugby-referees/

                  I'm truly shocked neither Ioane brother even got a mention for biggest grub.

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                  @MN5 said in Super Rugby 2020:

                  @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-results-from-kiwi-player-poll-reveals-new-zealands-biggest-grub-best-and-worst-super-rugby-referees/

                  I'm truly shocked neither Ioane brother even got a mention for biggest grub.

                  I'm guessing it's because the Ioanes don't go beyond just a push and shove. You won't see them penalized or carded for anything grubby.

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                    I'm surprised Jordie Barrett is up there. Is he a sneaky grub? I can't remember any incidents involving him.

                    Sio Tomkinson probably should be up there, but he's not a high profile player.

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-results-from-kiwi-player-poll-reveals-new-zealands-biggest-grub-best-and-worst-super-rugby-referees/

                      I'm truly shocked neither Ioane brother even got a mention for biggest grub.

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                      @MN5 I don't think regular after the whistle handbags is considered being a grub.

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                        #1320

                        Would be interesting to see the results beyond the first 3 for some of those categories.
                        Thought the favourite ground result was interesting given the debate over the new chch stadium.

                        Also found the best/worst ref ones interesting. O’keefe more popular tgan I would have thought and Jackson pretty unpopular.

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                          If O’Keeffe is rated our best ref we are in BIG trouble.

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                          • DiceD Dice

                            I'm surprised Jordie Barrett is up there. Is he a sneaky grub? I can't remember any incidents involving him.

                            Sio Tomkinson probably should be up there, but he's not a high profile player.

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                            @Dice said in Super Rugby 2020:

                            I'm surprised Jordie Barrett is up there. Is he a sneaky grub? I can't remember any incidents involving him.

                            Sio Tomkinson probably should be up there, but he's not a high profile player.

                            Off the field he may have got the grub rep

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @Dice said in Super Rugby 2020:

                              I'm surprised Jordie Barrett is up there. Is he a sneaky grub? I can't remember any incidents involving him.

                              Sio Tomkinson probably should be up there, but he's not a high profile player.

                              Off the field he may have got the grub rep

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                              @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

                              @Dice said in Super Rugby 2020:

                              I'm surprised Jordie Barrett is up there. Is he a sneaky grub? I can't remember any incidents involving him.

                              Sio Tomkinson probably should be up there, but he's not a high profile player.

                              Off the field he may have got the grub rep

                              He's not J-Mac for nothing eh.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                @Dice said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                I'm surprised Jordie Barrett is up there. Is he a sneaky grub? I can't remember any incidents involving him.

                                Sio Tomkinson probably should be up there, but he's not a high profile player.

                                Off the field he may have got the grub rep

                                He's not J-Mac for nothing eh.

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                                @Bones said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                @Dice said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                I'm surprised Jordie Barrett is up there. Is he a sneaky grub? I can't remember any incidents involving him.

                                Sio Tomkinson probably should be up there, but he's not a high profile player.

                                Off the field he may have got the grub rep

                                He's not J-Mac for nothing eh.

                                There are rumours about that stuff but rumours stick sometimes

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                                  https://twitter.com/westernforce/status/1282827146738556929

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    https://twitter.com/westernforce/status/1282827146738556929

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                                    Yeetyaah
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                                    @Stargazer where's the downvote button. I miss that dude so much, was one of my favourite players when I first started playing and watching rugby. Looks like I have an Australian team to support now.

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                                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                      @Stargazer where's the downvote button. I miss that dude so much, was one of my favourite players when I first started playing and watching rugby. Looks like I have an Australian team to support now.

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                                      @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                      @Stargazer where's the downvote button. I miss that dude so much, was one of my favourite players when I first started playing and watching rugby. Looks like I have an Australian team to support now.

                                      how fucking young are you???

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        @Stargazer where's the downvote button. I miss that dude so much, was one of my favourite players when I first started playing and watching rugby. Looks like I have an Australian team to support now.

                                        how fucking young are you???

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                                        @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        @Stargazer where's the downvote button. I miss that dude so much, was one of my favourite players when I first started playing and watching rugby. Looks like I have an Australian team to support now.

                                        how fucking young are you???

                                        yeah...i found that a bit jarring...i remember thinking..."who's this young bloke turning out for the landers, hes pretty good"

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                          @Stargazer where's the downvote button. I miss that dude so much, was one of my favourite players when I first started playing and watching rugby. Looks like I have an Australian team to support now.

                                          how fucking young are you???

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                                          Yeetyaah
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                                          @mariner4life haha I'm 25

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