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Hurricanes 2020

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    Some Hurricanes contract info in this article

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/122090081/super-rugby-no-animosity-between-hurricanes-and-carlos-spencer-says-ceo-as-rebuild-begins

    Barrett’s contract allows him to explore other New Zealand franchises in 2021 but, after a powerhouse return from a shoulder injury, Lee was confident he’d be in the yellow jersey again next year.
    

    I suspect he'll have an offer from the Blues to consider


    Loose forwards Vaea Fifita and Gareth Evans, and first five-eighth Jackson Garden-Bachop are among those off contract at season’s end
    

    Fafita is worth keeping

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    @Duluth I take anything Avan Lee says with a grain of salt. He was also confident Beauden was staying until he didn't, and the promise he made around the signing of a quality first five for next hasn't yet eventuated.

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    • WingerW Winger

      @Duluth said in Hurricanes 2020:

      Fafita is worth keeping

      Agree. But maybe for Fifita's benefit he may be best off to move elsewhere. As these coaches don't seem to be able to get the best from him. Or rate him. Hes in for eg. a different league to say Blackwell at lock but isn't rated highly enough.

      I hope they can also keep JGB too. He does the basics well. And Hickey doesn't full me with excitement. The key for the Canes is to keep Barrett. Without him (and esp with a limited player like Tiatia at FB) the Canes backline is a bit limited. For me he should be the AB fullback. He's better in this position than his brother

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      @Winger said in Hurricanes 2020:

      @Duluth said in Hurricanes 2020:

      Fafita is worth keeping

      Agree. But maybe for Fifita's benefit he may be best off to move elsewhere. As these coaches don't seem to be able to get the best from him. Or rate him. Hes in for eg. a different league to say Blackwell at lock but isn't rated highly enough.

      I hope they can also keep JGB too. He does the basics well. And Hickey doesn't full me with excitement. The key for the Canes is to keep Barrett. Without him (and esp with a limited player like Tiatia at FB) the Canes backline is a bit limited. For me he should be the AB fullback. He's better in this position than his brother

      Digging deeply into the memorybanks I seem to recall Fifita and Michael Fatialofa were the two locks that closed out the season the year the Hurricanes won the Title. He is now not even rated the number three blindside nor in the best two locks so something is obviously going on behind the scenes. His slump in form seems to have co-insided with the Plumtree's tenure of head coach commencing. At that time Plumtree announced to the world that Fifita was a lock whilst Steve Hansen was equally adamant that he was a blindside. Being placed behind Reid Princep must be a telling indicator that "we don't rate you or want you here any more" message to the kid.

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        #879

        Those not selected for the Canes this week and playing club rugby in Wellington are.

        Peter Umaga Jensen (Wainuiomata)
        Chase Tiatia (HOBM)
        Salesi Rayasi (HOBM)
        Jackson Garden-Bachop (Norths)

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          I'd like to see Rayasi get a run.

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            I'd like to see Rayasi get a run.

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            @Nepia same, especially considering Lam is shooting off soon.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @Nepia same, especially considering Lam is shooting off soon.

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              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

              @Nepia same, especially considering Lam is shooting off soon.

              The coach has a hard on for South African wings though it seems. Midget locks, Saffa wings, journeyman loosies, barely NPC level 10s ... seriously WTF is going on in Wellington? :astonished_face:

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                @Nepia same, especially considering Lam is shooting off soon.

                The coach has a hard on for South African wings though it seems. Midget locks, Saffa wings, journeyman loosies, barely NPC level 10s ... seriously WTF is going on in Wellington? :astonished_face:

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                @Nepia who knows? I've been scratching my head most of the season in regards to selection.

                This Canes side would look alot more potent if we had the likes of Rayasi, Aumua, IWL, Toala, Flanders and a good first five in the 23.

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                  Hammet is looking for a new gig isn't he?

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                    Hammet is looking for a new gig isn't he?

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      Hammet is looking for a new gig isn't he?

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        Hammet is looking for a new gig isn't he?

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                        @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        Hammet is looking for a new gig isn't he?

                        Damn, I really want to know what @Canes4life's two posts to you were. 🙂

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2020:

                          Hammet is looking for a new gig isn't he?

                          Damn, I really want to know what @Canes4life's two posts to you were. 🙂

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                          Duluth
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                          @Nepia

                          It's incredible dull. He deleted his own posts because they didn't appear properly

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            Hammet is looking for a new gig isn't he?

                            Damn, I really want to know what @Canes4life's two posts to you were. 🙂

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                            @Nepia said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            Hammet is looking for a new gig isn't he?

                            Damn, I really want to know what @Canes4life's two posts to you were. 🙂

                            Something like

                            0f3f70f2-dbff-4a0f-b327-85c92d909566-image.jpeg https://cdn.dopl3r.com//media/memes_files/yesthats-correct-and-the-horse-yourode-in-on-q8Sou.jpg

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                            • HigginsH Higgins

                              @Winger said in Hurricanes 2020:

                              @Duluth said in Hurricanes 2020:

                              Fafita is worth keeping

                              Agree. But maybe for Fifita's benefit he may be best off to move elsewhere. As these coaches don't seem to be able to get the best from him. Or rate him. Hes in for eg. a different league to say Blackwell at lock but isn't rated highly enough.

                              I hope they can also keep JGB too. He does the basics well. And Hickey doesn't full me with excitement. The key for the Canes is to keep Barrett. Without him (and esp with a limited player like Tiatia at FB) the Canes backline is a bit limited. For me he should be the AB fullback. He's better in this position than his brother

                              Digging deeply into the memorybanks I seem to recall Fifita and Michael Fatialofa were the two locks that closed out the season the year the Hurricanes won the Title. He is now not even rated the number three blindside nor in the best two locks so something is obviously going on behind the scenes. His slump in form seems to have co-insided with the Plumtree's tenure of head coach commencing. At that time Plumtree announced to the world that Fifita was a lock whilst Steve Hansen was equally adamant that he was a blindside. Being placed behind Reid Princep must be a telling indicator that "we don't rate you or want you here any more" message to the kid.

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                              @Higgins said in Hurricanes 2020:

                              co-insided

                              alt text

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                                Spencer left cos...

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12346748&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  Spencer left cos...

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12346748&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb

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                                  @taniwharugby Carlos first played for Horowhenua as a 17 year-old. in 1992. 28 years later and he can still play a decent standard of club Rugby.

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                                    From a media article about club rugby in Hawke's Bay, I understand that:

                                    Jonah Lowe played on the wing for Clive and scored two tries; and
                                    Danny Toala came off the bench and played well at fullback for Hastings.

                                    No mention of Isaia Walker-Leawere in the article, so I don't know whether he played this weekend.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      From a media article about club rugby in Hawke's Bay, I understand that:

                                      Jonah Lowe played on the wing for Clive and scored two tries; and
                                      Danny Toala came off the bench and played well at fullback for Hastings.

                                      No mention of Isaia Walker-Leawere in the article, so I don't know whether he played this weekend.

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                                      mikey07
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                                      @Stargazer I know this isn’t the right topic but what are your thoughts on Visignia signing for the Bay this NPC?

                                      The form he was in when he left was really good maybe the Canes could grab him to take Lams free space.

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                                        @Stargazer I know this isn’t the right topic but what are your thoughts on Visignia signing for the Bay this NPC?

                                        The form he was in when he left was really good maybe the Canes could grab him to take Lams free space.

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                                        @mikey07 In the Magpies 2020 thread you can read the info from the HBRU about the signing. I think the "add size" argument may be spot on. Although I normally have reservations about bringing in players from outside the province, if that's what the coaches were looking for and they couldn't find a good, big wing in the Bay (that may have to do with our demographic), he may be a good addition.

                                        You always have to wait and see how well a player plays after returning from overseas, but if he goes well, who knows, he might be a candidate to replace Ben Lam at the Canes?

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                                          @Stargazer I know this isn’t the right topic but what are your thoughts on Visignia signing for the Bay this NPC?

                                          The form he was in when he left was really good maybe the Canes could grab him to take Lams free space.

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                                          @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          Visignia

                                          This sounds like a new Mitsubishi.

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