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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • N Nogusta

    @booboo yea no good! you could tell by the way his leg was caught/stuck underneath that pile of bodies that it mightn't be good. I'd say he be definitely out of this weeks game. Blues will be crossing fingers toes and everything else that the 'best case scenario' pans out

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    @Nogusta said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Blues will be crossing fingers toes and everything else that the 'best case scenario' pans out

    hell yes.

    Although we have the deepest bench of loosies in the comp, short comps like this can rob you of star players. If Mo'unga gets injured Saturday night, the Blues win.

    Sorry for Sotutu, hopefully it's a tweak and nothing major

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    • gt12G gt12

      @Chris-B

      I think @dogmeat wwnt to a talk with Foxy about that.

      But I agree with your analysis - they missed the boat on the wings.

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      @gt12 @Chris-B 11 mths out from RWC I was told Bridge was a certainty.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Chris-B Their biggest cock up was not just trusting their experienced guys (and playing them to get them in form) like they had throughout their tenure and instead tried to go for the NMS miracle again.

        If as @gt12 states Bridge was pencilled in a year out then it's even more annoying than as a freak out after Perth, which is stupid but is kind of understandable, rather than the fact they were lining up someone to replace the best wing in the world for the previous three years.

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        @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @Chris-B Their biggest cock up was not just trusting their experienced guys (and playing them to get them in form) like they had throughout their tenure and instead tried to go for the NMS miracle again.

        That is the number one question I'd ask Hansen - after beating the experience drum for a decade, how come he abandoned it at the last post?

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

          Clarke is young, but needs to get himself more involved if the ball isn't going his way.

          how many games had our starting wingers in a RWC semi final played? combined? If you are good enough...

          I'm pretty over the "safe" wing spot. I think the trench warfare of test rugby needs a couple of game breakers out wide.

          I rate Clarke, and remember how dangerous he was in the U20s when he was given the ball. My point was that in games where the ball doesn't go his way, and I include the Chiefs game in Hamilton, he becomes fairly anonymous. I am also saying his youth means he hasn't really learnt to go looking for the ball (yet), which is something the AB coaches have been asking of their wingers.

          If the ABs can utilise his pace and ability to beat the first defender through his power, he becomes a huge weapon.

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          @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

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            @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

            Why?

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

              Why?

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              #275

              @Nepia might not have any/enough games haha

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

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                @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

                But he currently has no master to train him.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

                  Why?

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                  @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

                  Why?

                  Because I agree with Bovidae's post above. He was anonymous on Saturday.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

                    Why?

                    Because I agree with Bovidae's post above. He was anonymous on Saturday.

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                    #278

                    @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

                    Why?

                    Because I agree with Bovidae's post above. He was anonymous on Saturday.

                    Ruling him out after one game - so Bridge and Reece gone for their anonymous RWC campaigns?

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

                      Why?

                      Because I agree with Bovidae's post above. He was anonymous on Saturday.

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                      @Chris-B

                      By the stats, he was quiet, dangerous, and poor:

                      3 runs, 1 metre
                      1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten
                      1 turnover, 1 tackles made, 2 missed

                      Similarly Reece had:

                      5 runs, 6 metres
                      1 defender beaten, 1 offload
                      2 tackles made, 3 missed

                      For whatever reason play went to the other side and/or the others got more involved:

                      Bridge:

                      9 runs, 49 metres,
                      1 clean break, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try assist
                      2 turnovers, 5 tackles made, 1 missed

                      Telea:

                      5 runs, 62 metres
                      2 clean breaks, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try
                      9 tackles made, 2 missed, 1 penalty conceded

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

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                        @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

                        He's nearly 2 years older than Rieko was when he debuted. If the Olympics go ahead next year than Clarke couldn't be involved with the ABs until 2022.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

                          Why?

                          Because I agree with Bovidae's post above. He was anonymous on Saturday.

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                          @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Bovidae Clarke looks like a weapon - this year might be one too soon for him. Apprentice?

                          Why?

                          Because I agree with Bovidae's post above. He was anonymous on Saturday.

                          Bridge was anonymous his previous 2 starts before Saturday.

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                          • N Nogusta

                            Sotutu could be out for a bit.....the dreaded aye see el....

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                            @Nogusta said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Sotutu could be out for a bit.....the dreaded aye see el....

                            Shit. Was it the ruck he went into while missing a shoe? He looked to slip awkwardly with no grip.

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                            • gt12G gt12

                              @Chris-B

                              By the stats, he was quiet, dangerous, and poor:

                              3 runs, 1 metre
                              1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten
                              1 turnover, 1 tackles made, 2 missed

                              Similarly Reece had:

                              5 runs, 6 metres
                              1 defender beaten, 1 offload
                              2 tackles made, 3 missed

                              For whatever reason play went to the other side and/or the others got more involved:

                              Bridge:

                              9 runs, 49 metres,
                              1 clean break, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try assist
                              2 turnovers, 5 tackles made, 1 missed

                              Telea:

                              5 runs, 62 metres
                              2 clean breaks, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try
                              9 tackles made, 2 missed, 1 penalty conceded

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                              @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @Chris-B

                              By the stats, he was quiet, dangerous, and poor:

                              3 runs, 1 metre
                              1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten
                              1 turnover, 1 tackles made, 2 missed

                              Similarly Reece had:

                              5 runs, 6 metres
                              1 defender beaten, 1 offload
                              2 tackles made, 3 missed

                              For whatever reason play went to the other side and/or the others got more involved:

                              Bridge:

                              9 runs, 49 metres,
                              1 clean break, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try assist
                              2 turnovers, 5 tackles made, 1 missed

                              Telea:

                              5 runs, 62 metres
                              2 clean breaks, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try
                              9 tackles made, 2 missed, 1 penalty conceded

                              So Telea easily the best on the field

                              also, how much does being a winger suck? The fuck were they even doing out there? There would have been people in teh stands who did more than these guys

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                @Chris-B

                                By the stats, he was quiet, dangerous, and poor:

                                3 runs, 1 metre
                                1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten
                                1 turnover, 1 tackles made, 2 missed

                                Similarly Reece had:

                                5 runs, 6 metres
                                1 defender beaten, 1 offload
                                2 tackles made, 3 missed

                                For whatever reason play went to the other side and/or the others got more involved:

                                Bridge:

                                9 runs, 49 metres,
                                1 clean break, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try assist
                                2 turnovers, 5 tackles made, 1 missed

                                Telea:

                                5 runs, 62 metres
                                2 clean breaks, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try
                                9 tackles made, 2 missed, 1 penalty conceded

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                                @gt12 Even without looking at the stats, George was way ahead on points compared to the other wings in that game - on my card anyway.

                                That doesn't necessarily mean you get a line drawn through your name if you're the other guys, but it's a significant blow to their campaigns to be outplayed by the incumbent they're trying to unseat.

                                I'm biased, but I've got Will Jordan at the head of the new caps queue to join the outside backs - so the question is how many new guys do they want and how many incumbents might they get rid of?

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @gt12 Even without looking at the stats, George was way ahead on points compared to the other wings in that game - on my card anyway.

                                  That doesn't necessarily mean you get a line drawn through your name if you're the other guys, but it's a significant blow to their campaigns to be outplayed by the incumbent they're trying to unseat.

                                  I'm biased, but I've got Will Jordan at the head of the new caps queue to join the outside backs - so the question is how many new guys do they want and how many incumbents might they get rid of?

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                                  @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  George was way ahead on points compared to the other wings in that game - on my card anyway

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    @gt12 Even without looking at the stats, George was way ahead on points compared to the other wings in that game - on my card anyway.

                                    That doesn't necessarily mean you get a line drawn through your name if you're the other guys, but it's a significant blow to their campaigns to be outplayed by the incumbent they're trying to unseat.

                                    I'm biased, but I've got Will Jordan at the head of the new caps queue to join the outside backs - so the question is how many new guys do they want and how many incumbents might they get rid of?

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                                    @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    how many new guys do they want and how many incumbents might they get rid of?

                                    all of them. and all of them

                                    let's make this exciting, and throw the baby out with the bathwater.

                                    baby blacks y'all!

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @Chris-B

                                      By the stats, he was quiet, dangerous, and poor:

                                      3 runs, 1 metre
                                      1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten
                                      1 turnover, 1 tackles made, 2 missed

                                      Similarly Reece had:

                                      5 runs, 6 metres
                                      1 defender beaten, 1 offload
                                      2 tackles made, 3 missed

                                      For whatever reason play went to the other side and/or the others got more involved:

                                      Bridge:

                                      9 runs, 49 metres,
                                      1 clean break, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try assist
                                      2 turnovers, 5 tackles made, 1 missed

                                      Telea:

                                      5 runs, 62 metres
                                      2 clean breaks, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try
                                      9 tackles made, 2 missed, 1 penalty conceded

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                                      @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      3 runs, 1 metre
                                      1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten

                                      Does not compute! Was he going backwards for his clean break?

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        @Chris-B

                                        By the stats, he was quiet, dangerous, and poor:

                                        3 runs, 1 metre
                                        1 clean break, 2 defenders beaten
                                        1 turnover, 1 tackles made, 2 missed

                                        Similarly Reece had:

                                        5 runs, 6 metres
                                        1 defender beaten, 1 offload
                                        2 tackles made, 3 missed

                                        For whatever reason play went to the other side and/or the others got more involved:

                                        Bridge:

                                        9 runs, 49 metres,
                                        1 clean break, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try assist
                                        2 turnovers, 5 tackles made, 1 missed

                                        Telea:

                                        5 runs, 62 metres
                                        2 clean breaks, 3 defenders beaten, 1 try
                                        9 tackles made, 2 missed, 1 penalty conceded

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                                        @gt12 What about errors? A lot of the criticism of Talea has been about his failure to catch the high kicks.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          how many new guys do they want and how many incumbents might they get rid of?

                                          all of them. and all of them

                                          let's make this exciting, and throw the baby out with the bathwater.

                                          baby blacks y'all!

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                                          #289

                                          @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @Chris-B said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          how many new guys do they want and how many incumbents might they get rid of?

                                          all of them. and all of them

                                          let's make this exciting, and throw the baby out with the bathwater.

                                          baby blacks y'all!

                                          Steve?

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