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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    #1108

    <p>This guy reckons Slater or his cronies made those posts on the rnz page.<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://dimpost.wordpress.com/2016/02/22/the-mysterious-case-of-the-hate-speech-on-the-rnz-facebook-page/'>https://dimpost.wordpress.com/2016/02/22/the-mysterious-case-of-the-hate-speech-on-the-rnz-facebook-page/</a></p>

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    <p>Relevant and another example of why I consider the State shouldn't fund broadcasters. <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/02/why-are-radionz-and-john-campbell-allowing-death-threats-against-the-prime-minister/'>http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/02/why-are-radionz-and-john-campbell-allowing-death-threats-against-the-prime-minister/</a></p>

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    <p>cos its just banter bro, they aint fo' real or nuttin!</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    #1111

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="559610" data-time="1455871749">
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    <p>If it wasn't for Damien McKenzie, Tony Brown and my two blonde cousins I'd be the whitest Maori around. ;)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Also, being Maori hasn't hindered Hekia and Paula in their quest to be the rightiest, tightiest in the Nats. </p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Ha, wrong. My better half is the whitest Maori around, she doesn't like eggs or seafood though so she's clearly an imposter.</p>

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #1112

    <p>she don't need to like eggs to cook em! :idiot2:</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    MN5
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    #1113

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="559979" data-time="1456105104">
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    <p>she don't need to like eggs to cook em! :idiot2:</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Exactly....I learnt very early on in the piece that I poach em a shit load better than she does though.</p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    <p>She's doing it deliberately because FUCK your eggs.</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    #1115

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="560010" data-time="1456115030">
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    <p>She's doing it deliberately because FUCK your eggs.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>That's funny cos it's true. She buys those big cheap nasty trays. I thought I was only a beer snob but turns out I'm an egg snob too. Free range don't fall apart when you poach them and have a much healthier colour.</p>

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    #1116

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="560012" data-time="1456115551">
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    <p>That's funny cos it's true. She buys those big cheap nasty trays. I thought I was only a beer snob but turns out I'm an egg snob too. Free range don't fall apart when you poach them and have a much healthier colour.</p>
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    <p> <br>
    THIS. Quality eggs is up there in terms of importance with quality of steak/fish.<br><br>
    Storing good quality eggs in a sealed jar/tupperware with a whole truffle is awesome, infuses the flavour straight in through the shells.<br><br>
    Shit, wrong thread...</p>

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    #1117

    The feral that threw brown liquid on Brownlee yesterday <br>
    Lost a kid to falling rubble in the February quake<br>
    Doesn't live in Christchurch he lives in Greymouth and whines about the rebuild <br>
    He and his wife are sickness beneficiaries but say the govt is heartless.<br>
    Got home d for possessing child porn which he tried to blame on his sons death but started looking at it years before the quakes.<br><br>
    Ffs.

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    #1118

    <p>That's the thing that rips my undies bro - the fringe element paints the broader group of people who disagree with the TPPA or Flag or whatever. Or like that last protest where the guy interviewed had fuck all knowledge of what he was even protesting.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>My dislike (hate is a strong word/feeling) of Key and National makes me super aware of my bias and the need to play the ball not the (wo)man. With the flag I'm salty about the process and meh about the new options... but such is life!</p>

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  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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    #1119

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Paekakboyz" data-cid="560183" data-time="1456190507">
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    <p>That's the thing that rips my undies bro - the fringe element paints the broader group of people who disagree with the TPPA or Flag or whatever. Or like that last protest where the guy interviewed had fuck all knowledge of what he was even protesting.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>My dislike (hate is a strong word/feeling) of Key and National makes me super aware of my bias and the need to play the ball not the (wo)man. With the flag I'm salty about the process and meh about the new options... but such is life!</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>What was wrong with the process specifically? </p>

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    #1120

    <p>no graphic designers (or design folks) on committee, roadshow approach to engage with community felt super out of touch and was poorly attended. Which imo led to little variation when it came to the final options. You can look at that as reflecting clear theme/s or elements that people liked but I think we missed out on some designs or feedback to flag designers by the committee</p>

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    #1121

    Paekakboyz , who's to blame for it being poorly attended?

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    <p>I felt there was a decent variety of people (sure there woulda been gaps, but you will never please everyone) who had a decent grasp of NZ and what it meant to be a NZer, not convinced someone with a design background (god forbid Vexology) was required given they weren't designing the flags, they were assessing those that were submitted, of which many you could tell had no proper 'design' input.</p>

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    #1123

    <p>I think the flag has bought out the worst in the country.  I've been ashamed to read some of the things I've read.  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Apparently Carter and Richie are just "fukn merceneries" to money from Key and thats why they are saying they are pro change.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I get that some people don't like Key, I get that those that don't like Key and want the flag to stay have a double-barrel hatred of the guy.  But there seems to be a complete lack of ability to respect other peoples opinions..  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Most of it is very shameful.</p>

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    #1124

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="560220" data-time="1456193865">
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    <p>Paekakboyz , who's to blame for it being poorly attended?</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Now I feel like I'm running the Wellington 7's!!</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But in a funny kind of way there are parallels. If people aren't engaged then why would they watch, listen or attend? Flag consultation had a better starting position as it was new and really significant. Yet the numbers were low enough for it to be a source for average NZ comedy show piss takes. Would fully agree that some form of face-to-face consultation is vital in such a big conversation and decision. Also appreciate that the organisers would have been criticised if that hadn't been part of the programme. Not an easy task but disappointing imo.</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    #1125

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="560239" data-time="1456197759">
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    <p>I think the flag has bought out the worst in the country.  I've been ashamed to read some of the things I've read.  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Apparently Carter and Richie are just "fukn merceneries" to money from Key and thats why they are saying they are pro change.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I get that some people don't like Key, I get that those that don't like Key and want the flag to stay have a double-barrel hatred of the guy.  But there seems to be a complete lack of ability to respect other peoples opinions..  </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Most of it is very shameful.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I agree, that's why I will never comment on it. Ever.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Can we go back to talking about eggs ?</p>

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    #1126

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Paekakboyz" data-cid="560218" data-time="1456193718">
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    <p>no graphic designers (or design folks) on committee,</p>
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    <p>That's a strength of the process IMO.  In NZ, the minute you put someone like that on the committee, they'll want to be hip, PC, trendy, ground-breaking, cutting edge, deep, profound...</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>...and you'll end up with some arty-farty flag that appeals to the fringe arts community and no-one else.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I don't think the Lockwood design is particularly good, I would have just done something with a fern, and left the southern cross out of it, but the fundamental issue for me personally is having a flag that isn't a British colonial template flag that is constantly confused with being British or Australian.</p>

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  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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    #1127

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Paekakboyz" data-cid="560218" data-time="1456193718">
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    <p>no graphic designers (or design folks) on committee, roadshow approach to engage with community felt super out of touch and was poorly attended. Which imo led to little variation when it came to the final options. You can look at that as reflecting clear theme/s or elements that people liked but I think we missed out on some designs or feedback to flag designers by the committee</p>
    </div>
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    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Why do they need a design person? What would a design person know about popularity of a flag.. proof of that.. Red Peak crashing and burning. </p>
    <p>How many flag designers does N Z have? Who would you have suggested?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>As for poor attendance.. oh well.. that is not the processes fault. What are they supposed to do ... drag people in?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>So far your criticisms of the 'process' seem rather weak. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>This was the panel btw.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.govt.nz/browse/engaging-with-government/the-nz-flag-your-chance-to-decide/the-panel/'>https://www.govt.nz/browse/engaging-with-government/the-nz-flag-your-chance-to-decide/the-panel/</a></p>

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