Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

Blues 2020

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
blues
1.6k Posts 81 Posters 159.0k Views 4 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    A very interesting read on Akira

    alt text

    https://tiponrugby.substack.com/p/centre-of-attention

    His workload over 2018 and 2019 included 80-minute performances in 28 of his team’s 32 games, and between 2016 and 2019 he bore the highest workload in attack of any of the players charted above: he contributed 9.4% of his team’s carries during this period, while also beating defenders the most regularly and making more metres per carry than everyone except Ardie Savea and Dalton Papali’i. (Ioane averaged 2.1 more carries per 80 minutes than Savea over this period, and 6.3 more than Papali’i.)
    
    This data cannot prove or disprove that Ioane met the standards that the All Blacks selectors were asking him to meet, but it does provide evidence to contradict the assertion that only now is he providing an acceptable level of on-field performance.
    
    It is also notable that a number of positive public comments from those selectors and his Blues coaches over the last few years have been largely ignored in the framing of his story. Grant Fox’s acknowledgement prior to the 2018 end-of-year tour that Ioane was “getting better at the areas he's been asked to improve at” was published under a headline suggesting that his “star [was] on the wane”, and Leon MacDonald’s comments at the beginning of this season that Ioane had “trained really well, [and] is fit and hungry” did nothing to stop his non-selection for the opening rounds of Super Rugby being painted in the same light.
    
    Cantab79C Offline
    Cantab79C Offline
    Cantab79
    wrote on last edited by
    #1432

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    A very interesting read on Akira

    No one ever questioned Akira Ioane's desire to run the ball. It was his refusal to commit to the clean out that clearly irked the AB selectors. There is a lot more to being a loose forward than running the ball.

    gt12G NepiaN 2 Replies Last reply
    0
    • Cantab79C Cantab79

      @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

      A very interesting read on Akira

      No one ever questioned Akira Ioane's desire to run the ball. It was his refusal to commit to the clean out that clearly irked the AB selectors. There is a lot more to being a loose forward than running the ball.

      gt12G Offline
      gt12G Offline
      gt12
      wrote on last edited by gt12
      #1433

      alt text

      alt text

      1 Reply Last reply
      4
      • Cantab79C Cantab79

        @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

        A very interesting read on Akira

        No one ever questioned Akira Ioane's desire to run the ball. It was his refusal to commit to the clean out that clearly irked the AB selectors. There is a lot more to being a loose forward than running the ball.

        NepiaN Offline
        NepiaN Offline
        Nepia
        wrote on last edited by
        #1434

        @Cantab79 said in Blues 2020:

        @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

        A very interesting read on Akira

        No one ever questioned Akira Ioane's desire to run the ball. It was his refusal to commit to the clean out that clearly irked the AB selectors. There is a lot more to being a loose forward than running the ball.

        Sheesh AC, now you’re attacking your cousin on multiple forums. 😛The Blues used him as a runner, and like some of us have been telling TSF for the past couple of years they worked him like crazy.

        A 1 Reply Last reply
        1
        • NepiaN Nepia

          @Cantab79 said in Blues 2020:

          @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

          A very interesting read on Akira

          No one ever questioned Akira Ioane's desire to run the ball. It was his refusal to commit to the clean out that clearly irked the AB selectors. There is a lot more to being a loose forward than running the ball.

          Sheesh AC, now you’re attacking your cousin on multiple forums. 😛The Blues used him as a runner, and like some of us have been telling TSF for the past couple of years they worked him like crazy.

          A Offline
          A Offline
          African Monkey
          wrote on last edited by
          #1435

          @Nepia 2018 was a classic year for Ioane. Dominated in all aspects and was virtually playing on his own for the Blues then dominated for Auckland and people still made excuse after excuse as to why he shouldn't be picked.

          1 Reply Last reply
          7
          • T Offline
            T Offline
            trodthesod
            wrote on last edited by
            #1436

            I have attended the Rennie,Coventry practice sessions on the lovely field at Ruakura.Everything they did was accurate and precise.Some of Coventry’s work with the forwards on a paddock near the railway line was legendary for its intensity.The odd flare up was known to occur.Akira may be benefiting from some of that work.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • taniwharugbyT Offline
              taniwharugbyT Offline
              taniwharugby
              wrote on last edited by
              #1437

              you'd have to think watching from the sidelines behind Sotutu and Robinson would have been good for him too!

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • TimT Offline
                TimT Offline
                Tim
                wrote on last edited by
                #1438

                Karl T playing off the bench for Takapuna tomorrow, so probably still working through his injury.

                https://www.facebook.com/TakapunaRugby/posts/3114897725298173

                1 Reply Last reply
                3
                • Daffy JaffyD Offline
                  Daffy JaffyD Offline
                  Daffy Jaffy
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1439

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  2
                  • DiceD Offline
                    DiceD Offline
                    Dice
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1440

                    https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12325/12033963/joe-marchant-looks-back-on-his-super-rugby-stint-with-the-blues

                    nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
                    3
                    • DiceD Dice

                      https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12325/12033963/joe-marchant-looks-back-on-his-super-rugby-stint-with-the-blues

                      nzzpN Online
                      nzzpN Online
                      nzzp
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1441

                      @Dice thanks matey, interesting read. He did well with us, was a good squad addition.

                      Recruitment is going to be fascinating at the end of the year, Blues are finally a credible destination

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      1
                      • KiwiMurphK Online
                        KiwiMurphK Online
                        KiwiMurph
                        wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
                        #1442

                        Blues have been out and about this week.

                        Have attended trainings at Kelston Boys, College Rifles and Marist.

                        Good stuff.

                        EDIT - turns out they sent players to 19 different clubs for junior rugby trainings on Wednesday night. Great work.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        3
                        • DiceD Offline
                          DiceD Offline
                          Dice
                          wrote on last edited by Dice
                          #1443

                          Was just having a look at the match stats for each game, and what popped out to me was the amount of tackles we've made/attempted.

                          Tackles Made/Tackles Attempted

                          Week 1 vs Hurricanes - 152/174
                          Week 2 vs Chiefs - 143/161
                          Week 3 vs Highlanders - 109/124
                          Week 4 vs Crusaders - 146/171
                          Week 5 vs Hurricanes - 176/207

                          Total - 726/837

                          Average Per Game - 145/167

                          In our 7 games earlier in the year, the total tackles made/attempted was 713/828(102/118 per game), so we've made more tackles in 5 games of SRA than we did in the 7 games pre-covid.

                          Our penalty count has not helped with this(although we had a penalty issue earlier in the year too), but we're also kicking quite a lot with 27 kicks per game.

                          nzzpN DuluthD 3 Replies Last reply
                          3
                          • DiceD Dice

                            Was just having a look at the match stats for each game, and what popped out to me was the amount of tackles we've made/attempted.

                            Tackles Made/Tackles Attempted

                            Week 1 vs Hurricanes - 152/174
                            Week 2 vs Chiefs - 143/161
                            Week 3 vs Highlanders - 109/124
                            Week 4 vs Crusaders - 146/171
                            Week 5 vs Hurricanes - 176/207

                            Total - 726/837

                            Average Per Game - 145/167

                            In our 7 games earlier in the year, the total tackles made/attempted was 713/828(102/118 per game), so we've made more tackles in 5 games of SRA than we did in the 7 games pre-covid.

                            Our penalty count has not helped with this(although we had a penalty issue earlier in the year too), but we're also kicking quite a lot with 27 kicks per game.

                            nzzpN Online
                            nzzpN Online
                            nzzp
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1444

                            @Dice good work fella, appreciate the thoughts.

                            If you have a strong forward pack and sound defence, you'll be a contender. Coventry has finally had an effect, and we have both scored Maul tries, and managed to defend some mauls as well - just outstanding from a forward pack that was dynamic at times, but woefully weak in maul defence.

                            You get the feeling that if we click and get some confidence, we could tear apart some teams. People having fun out there, and it shows... but still working bloody hard for each other. Long may it last

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            1
                            • DiceD Dice

                              Was just having a look at the match stats for each game, and what popped out to me was the amount of tackles we've made/attempted.

                              Tackles Made/Tackles Attempted

                              Week 1 vs Hurricanes - 152/174
                              Week 2 vs Chiefs - 143/161
                              Week 3 vs Highlanders - 109/124
                              Week 4 vs Crusaders - 146/171
                              Week 5 vs Hurricanes - 176/207

                              Total - 726/837

                              Average Per Game - 145/167

                              In our 7 games earlier in the year, the total tackles made/attempted was 713/828(102/118 per game), so we've made more tackles in 5 games of SRA than we did in the 7 games pre-covid.

                              Our penalty count has not helped with this(although we had a penalty issue earlier in the year too), but we're also kicking quite a lot with 27 kicks per game.

                              nzzpN Online
                              nzzpN Online
                              nzzp
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1445

                              @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                              Our penalty count has not helped with this

                              the goddamned offensive penalties we have conceded this year make me want to throw things. What's super irritating is that the pedantic calls seem to now just be ignored ... I'm such a supporter of clear and consistent rulings, but it's only taken a few rounds for refs to just shrug their shoulders and swallow their whistles.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              2
                              • DiceD Dice

                                Was just having a look at the match stats for each game, and what popped out to me was the amount of tackles we've made/attempted.

                                Tackles Made/Tackles Attempted

                                Week 1 vs Hurricanes - 152/174
                                Week 2 vs Chiefs - 143/161
                                Week 3 vs Highlanders - 109/124
                                Week 4 vs Crusaders - 146/171
                                Week 5 vs Hurricanes - 176/207

                                Total - 726/837

                                Average Per Game - 145/167

                                In our 7 games earlier in the year, the total tackles made/attempted was 713/828(102/118 per game), so we've made more tackles in 5 games of SRA than we did in the 7 games pre-covid.

                                Our penalty count has not helped with this(although we had a penalty issue earlier in the year too), but we're also kicking quite a lot with 27 kicks per game.

                                DuluthD Offline
                                DuluthD Offline
                                Duluth
                                wrote on last edited by Duluth
                                #1446

                                @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                                Was just having a look at the match stats for each game, and what popped out to me was the amount of tackles we've made/attempted.

                                There's been a reasonable number of defensive errors/individuals getting exposed. What's saved us all year has been the scrambling defence has been extremely good.
                                Fitness, high standards and forwards to get back on their feet faster than previous years all contribute to that

                                The last couple of weeks the scramble has dropped off a bit which is concerning.

                                Remember a few seasons ago the Highlanders had a kick chase game and their forwards were racking up huge tackle stats.. then the defence fell away.. the cumulative effort took the toll in the last 3rd of the season

                                DiceD 1 Reply Last reply
                                1
                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @Dice said in Blues 2020:

                                  Was just having a look at the match stats for each game, and what popped out to me was the amount of tackles we've made/attempted.

                                  There's been a reasonable number of defensive errors/individuals getting exposed. What's saved us all year has been the scrambling defence has been extremely good.
                                  Fitness, high standards and forwards to get back on their feet faster than previous years all contribute to that

                                  The last couple of weeks the scramble has dropped off a bit which is concerning.

                                  Remember a few seasons ago the Highlanders had a kick chase game and their forwards were racking up huge tackle stats.. then the defence fell away.. the cumulative effort took the toll in the last 3rd of the season

                                  DiceD Offline
                                  DiceD Offline
                                  Dice
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1447

                                  @Duluth Yeah, our current game plan is quite taxing. Not sure if we can continue it if we want to end the season well.

                                  Let's see if we see a change in tactics with Beauden at 10 and Duffie at 15. I expect less kicking this week.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  1
                                  • DiceD Offline
                                    DiceD Offline
                                    Dice
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1448

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • TimT Offline
                                      TimT Offline
                                      Tim
                                      wrote on last edited by Tim
                                      #1449

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300065861/super-rugby-aotearoa-new-perspective-drives-blues-hooker-kurt-eklund-to-keep-pushing

                                      He had 14 months out of the game dealing with a serious knee injury around that period and moved his provincial base from Auckland to Bay of Plenty in 2019 to enable him to spend as much time as he could around his Waihi-based mum.

                                      “It was pretty tough but the timing was good,” reflects Eklund ahead of what will be his second start for the franchise at Eden Park on Sunday. “Over that time Mum was probably at her worst and that was invaluable time I’ll never get back and I appreciated having that. Obviously losing her was pretty tough on my family, and myself.”

                                      Eklund has no contract to play professional rugby beyond this year (he’ll be back at the Bay for Mitre 10) and though he has a solid backup plan – he is a builder by trade and keeps his time in on the tools when he can – he isn’t quite finished with this rugby thing just yet.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      4
                                      • DiceD Offline
                                        DiceD Offline
                                        Dice
                                        wrote on last edited by Dice
                                        #1450

                                        The weather for today's game should be good for some running rugby. Will we see a less conservative approach today though?

                                        I did another stat dive and found that our linebreak numbers have taken a nose dive compared to our pre-covid games.

                                        In 5 games of Super Rugby Aotearoa, we've made 27 linebreaks, which is an average of 5.4 line breaks per game. For a bit of context, the Crusaders are averaging 11.4 linebreaks per game, while the Hurricanes are at the front with 13 line breaks per game.

                                        Pre-covid we made 84 linebreaks in 7 games, which is an average of 12 linebreaks per game. Non-derby games didn't boost the average either, as we actually averaged more linebreaks in derbies with 13 per game.

                                        With the current game plan we're playing, it means we have to be very efficient with the ball we have, which we have been to an extent, but it leaves little room for error. We've only had one game with the possession edge, and in our two losses, we averaged 37.5% of possession.

                                        Parsons noted this week that with all the tackling we're doing, it leaves less energy for attack. So maybe a change in approach is needed?

                                        antipodeanA 1 Reply Last reply
                                        4
                                        • TimT Offline
                                          TimT Offline
                                          Tim
                                          wrote on last edited by Tim
                                          #1451

                                          The season drawing to a close, so it's time to start looking ahead to 2021.

                                          Overall our forwards have been really good, we have an excellent forwards coach, and good depth. We need to improve accuracy at the ruck, and gain a few more turnovers.

                                          Our top four props are clear, with the 3rd loosehead and tighthead spots in contention. Lindenmuth is promising, but needs more game time. Renata has shown he can play both sides, but might be a better loosehead. Fepulea'i and Adams are other possibilities, as is Lua Li. Might be too soon for some of the age group players.

                                          Eklund is the number one hooker going forward, with Parsons having maybe one more year ahead of him. Tolai is a good prospect, and Niuia might be back. Any good recruitment prospects?

                                          We're pretty solid at lock. Not sure if there any new standouts coming along.

                                          At loose forward, will be interesting to see if Jones or Choat can force their way into the squad.

                                          Now the hard part, the backs.

                                          Nock is the only halfback who I'm comfortable with starting. Christie is okay off the bench, but not a starter. TTT and Taumateine might be worth targeting. Some good young players coming through, but too green.

                                          At 10 we are okay. Zarn Sullivan might force his way in though.

                                          Midfield is tough. We really only have one good option at 12 and 13 until Tele'a is back. Hope he can stay fit next year. Tamati Tua is in the squad as a replacement 12, but it's a long time since I've seen him play. AJ Lam might be worth a look at 13 and wing, and maybe Clarke can play centre too. Clarke may be preparing for olympic sevens next year though. Solofa Silipa plays 12 and wing in club rugby. Any other possibilities from the region, or players worth recruiting?

                                          We might need a couple of wings too. Hopefully Talea and Narawa improve their defence.

                                          Perofeta went well at fullback, but is prone to injury. Duffie is okay but that's about it. I've yet to see Page play. Trainor is a possibility. Any others? Maybe nab Stevenson.

                                          nzzpN StargazerS N 3 Replies Last reply
                                          4
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search