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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @sparky said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Tim said in Super Rugby 2020:

    https://twitter.com/nigelyalden/status/1287257734895738880?s=21

    Big duds have been the Chiefs. I blame Gatland. Apart from that Super Rugby Aotearoa has been 🔥.

    Surprised and pleased that Hurricanes are still contenders at this stage of the competition.

    yeah, good one

    A team that isn't winning, but has losing margins of 1, 12, 5, 7, 2, & 4 aren't contributing to a good set of games

    uppercut yourself

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    Kiwiwomble
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    @mariner4life agreed, our two games against the chiefs have been epic and both decided by tiny details

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      In the defence of the chiefs...to have no Brodie Retallick ,Tyler Adron and Micheal Allardice ..in the middle row, and to ask loose Forward type locks Who looked no taller than Sam Cane and a rookie in Vaai..to patch that area is a massive ask in anybody’s book...
      I have sympathy, but on saying that ,it comes back to the coaches who select the squad..there were some really good locks omitted from super rugby that are genuine lineout ball winners ..Sam Caird ,Geoff Cridge and Tom Parsons come to mind ..

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      • S Steven Harris

        In the defence of the chiefs...to have no Brodie Retallick ,Tyler Adron and Micheal Allardice ..in the middle row, and to ask loose Forward type locks Who looked no taller than Sam Cane and a rookie in Vaai..to patch that area is a massive ask in anybody’s book...
        I have sympathy, but on saying that ,it comes back to the coaches who select the squad..there were some really good locks omitted from super rugby that are genuine lineout ball winners ..Sam Caird ,Geoff Cridge and Tom Parsons come to mind ..

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        @Steven-Harris said in Super Rugby 2020:

        In the defence of the chiefs...to have no Brodie Retallick ,Tyler Adron and Micheal Allardice ..in the middle row, and to ask loose Forward type locks Who looked no taller than Sam Cane and a rookie in Vaai..to patch that area is a massive ask in anybody’s book...
        I have sympathy, but on saying that ,it comes back to the coaches who select the squad..there were some really good locks omitted from super rugby that are genuine lineout ball winners ..Sam Caird ,Geoff Cridge and Tom Parsons come to mind ..

        there was a shot from the sideline of the Chiefs scrum after Thomson came on yesterday. The flankers and locks were all the same height.

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        • S Steven Harris

          In the defence of the chiefs...to have no Brodie Retallick ,Tyler Adron and Micheal Allardice ..in the middle row, and to ask loose Forward type locks Who looked no taller than Sam Cane and a rookie in Vaai..to patch that area is a massive ask in anybody’s book...
          I have sympathy, but on saying that ,it comes back to the coaches who select the squad..there were some really good locks omitted from super rugby that are genuine lineout ball winners ..Sam Caird ,Geoff Cridge and Tom Parsons come to mind ..

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          @Steven-Harris said in Super Rugby 2020:

          In the defence of the chiefs...to have no Brodie Retallick ,Tyler Adron and Micheal Allardice ..in the middle row, and to ask loose Forward type locks Who looked no taller than Sam Cane and a rookie in Vaai..to patch that area is a massive ask in anybody’s book...

          Missing 2 AB props also hasn't helped. What should have been a strength hasn't panned out that way.

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            They've been averse to selecting specialist locks in their squads for a few seasons now. Almost specialising in converting loose forwards.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @sparky said in Super Rugby 2020:

              @Tim said in Super Rugby 2020:

              https://twitter.com/nigelyalden/status/1287257734895738880?s=21

              Big duds have been the Chiefs. I blame Gatland. Apart from that Super Rugby Aotearoa has been 🔥.

              Surprised and pleased that Hurricanes are still contenders at this stage of the competition.

              yeah, good one

              A team that isn't winning, but has losing margins of 1, 12, 5, 7, 2, & 4 aren't contributing to a good set of games

              uppercut yourself

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              wrote on last edited by sparky
              #1357

              @mariner4life Lots of people before the tournament tipped the Chiefs to win, there was lota of hype about them, most people thought they'd outperform the Hurricanes and the Highlanders, on paper their squad looks great. They haven't met pre-season expectations. That was my point.

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @sparky said in Super Rugby 2020:

                Big duds have been the Chiefs. I blame Gatland. Apart from that Super Rugby Aotearoa has been 🔥.

                they haven't been winning, but by god they've contributed.

                I see @mariner4life has beat me to it, but they are not as bad as the record suggests. May yet tip up a contender...

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                #1358

                @nzzp said in Super Rugby 2020:

                @sparky said in Super Rugby 2020:

                Big duds have been the Chiefs. I blame Gatland. Apart from that Super Rugby Aotearoa has been 🔥.

                they haven't been winning, but by god they've contributed.

                I see @mariner4life has beat me to it, but they are not as bad as the record suggests. May yet tip up a contender...

                Agree with that. Think the Chiefs will trip up a contender.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  @mariner4life Lots of people before the tournament tipped the Chiefs to win, there was lota of hype about them, most people thought they'd outperform the Hurricanes and the Highlanders, on paper their squad looks great. They haven't met pre-season expectations. That was my point.

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                  Bones
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                  #1359

                  @sparky said in Super Rugby 2020:

                  Lots of people before the tournament tipped the Chiefs to win

                  Wait, what? That's the first I've heard of that.

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                    Chiefs pre lockdown were 4-2 with wins over the Crusaders and Blues. Losing Allardice and McWhannell combined with Brodie's holiday and Ardons "early" departure (only early due to lockdown) means they have had throw in rookies and loose forwards into their second row. Seeing Cane not confident in the scrum due to 38 year old Thomson packing down was depressing, in a normal situation they may have scored off the scrum (Blues were a man down).

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                      Canes4life
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                      For those wanting a good rundown of how their team is shaping up for 2021 have a look at this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2020–21_Super_Rugby_transfers_(New_Zealand)

                      Ironically it's Wikipedia but it provides a respectable list of player movements.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        For those wanting a good rundown of how their team is shaping up for 2021 have a look at this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2020–21_Super_Rugby_transfers_(New_Zealand)

                        Ironically it's Wikipedia but it provides a respectable list of player movements.

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                        #1362

                        @Canes4life They got PU-J wrong.

                        This is the relevant instagram post from the Canes, showing that he signed for 2020 only. See 3rd photo.

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                          Tim
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                          #1363

                          According to Sky’s Breakdown show, 33,000 tickets have already been sold for the Blues vs. Crusaders game.

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                            KiwiMurph
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                            #1364

                            Sunday games definitely a winner across the competition in regards to live crowds

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              Sunday games definitely a winner across the competition in regards to live crowds

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                              taniwharugby
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                              @KiwiMurph daytime rugby is the winner!

                              I realise eyeballs on screens is where the money is, but people want to go to earlier games

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                Sunday games definitely a winner across the competition in regards to live crowds

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                                @KiwiMurph its almost as if people have been saying for years they would like more day games right?

                                i think ive watched more of the Sunday games than the sat evening ones

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  According to Sky’s Breakdown show, 33,000 tickets have already been sold for the Blues vs. Crusaders game.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1367

                                  @Tim

                                  If we beat the Highlanders and the comps over maybe some players who haven't had much of a go get some game time.

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                                    wrote on last edited by Tim
                                    #1368

                                    Jordie Barrett will be playing for the Hurricanes next year.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/122354305/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-lock-in-star-fullback-jordie-barrett-for-next-year

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @KiwiMurph daytime rugby is the winner!

                                      I realise eyeballs on screens is where the money is, but people want to go to earlier games

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                                      Bones
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                                      @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                      @KiwiMurph daytime rugby is the winner!

                                      I realise eyeballs on screens is where the money is, but people want to go to earlier games

                                      If it's for UK/Africa market, then I'm not sure it matters that much to be honest - they can throw on a replay at breakfast time anyway and the tragics like us will just record the game and watch it over breakfast with the added bonus of being able to fast forward through Marshall explaining an unknown law in a break in play (although I've been getting up for most games).

                                      If it's Aus, how could it not be better to crank up the bbq for lunchtime super rugby?

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                                        mariner4life
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                                        Congratulations to the Crusaders. Winning this comp with a game in hand is pretty fucking incredible given how close it has been, and the quality on offer.

                                        Yesterday was just a great illustration of what that team is about. The Highlanders were all over them, and the game was slipping away. But they stuck to their process, lifted when they needed to, and their best players got them home.

                                        They are a great side in the mould of the Storm or the Patriots (comparisons used many times over) in that they are all about quality role players doing their jobs in order for their best players to shine.

                                        It's really impressive, and the coaching staff are to be highly commended.

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                                          Watching the Crusaders playing against only New Zealand opposition has highlighted for me how often their opponents have opportunities that someone will stuff up. Crusaders take the vast majority of their chances while other teams invariably place themselves under pressure.

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