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Exodus 2016

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #155

    <p>of those 3 names, Kaino would be the one most likely to go*, but the other 2, you'd think the Lions next year would be a huge carrot, and didn't BB also recently withdraw from the 7s to focus on 15s?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>*although if Kaino is still the AB 6 at the years end, surely he'd be keen to give the Lions a crack in a Black jersey!</p>

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    • Billy TellB Offline
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      #156

      The only player I can think of with 30+ caps off contract in 2016 is beauden Barrett. He would get megabucks in France or the uk. And I wouldn't be surprised to see him go if the money was enormous.

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      • UncoU Offline
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        #157

        <p>The ones I was thinking of were Kaino, Franks and Crockett, since they're getting on in years, but all three have signed up until at least the end of 2017. Kaino does apparently have a sabbatical option in his contract though, so he could use that.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Messam and SBW might be possibilities, since we don't know what their plans are after the Olympics, but I imagine at least one of them would be keen to play the Lions.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Otherwise, like you said Billy, Barrett's the only one with 30+ caps and whose contract expires this year.</p>

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        • NepiaN Offline
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          #158

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="560078" data-time="1456171469">
          <div>
          <p>of those 3 names, Kaino would be the one most likely to go*, but the other 2, you'd think the Lions next year would be a huge carrot, and didn't BB also recently withdraw from the 7s to focus on 15s?</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>*although if Kaino is still the AB 6 at the years end, surely he'd be keen to give the Lions a crack in a Black jersey!</p>
          </div>
          </blockquote>
          <p>I would have thought Kaino was staying just for the Lions - there's not much left for him to do on his international bucket list.</p>

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          • StargazerS Offline
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            #159

            <p>Both Kaino and Crockett have indicated that they want to end their careers in New Zealand and both are contracted through to 2018.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Owen Franks' contract is until 2017.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Thinking about ex/fringe All Blacks, Andy Ellis has 28 caps and will be free at the end of the season.</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>I think Barrett fits the 30+ and free in 2016 best, but whether he wants to leave before the Lions tour?</p>

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            • BovidaeB Offline
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              #160

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="560242" data-time="1456198050">
              <div>I think Barrett fits the 30+ and free in 2016 best, but whether he wants to leave before the Lions tour?</div>
              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>I doubt he would leave, but Barrett's decision to re-sign might depend on whether he gets the no.10 AB jersey.  Would he be that keen to be the super-sub again?</p>

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              • rotatedR Offline
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                #161

                SBW has over 30 caps and I would be shocked if he added to it.

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                • CrucialC Offline
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                  #162

                  <p>Todd Blackadder is a 30+ player, only he looks to be going to Munster to confuse with selections rather than play.</p>

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                  • NepiaN Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #163

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rotated" data-cid="560378" data-time="1456248592">
                    <div>
                    <p>SBW has over 30 caps and I would be shocked if he added to it.</p>
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                    </blockquote>
                    <p>Isn't he still contracted to the NZRU after the Olympics? He could pick up a few caps on the EOYT. </p>

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                    • sparkyS Offline
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                      #164

                      I have heard of five or six English and French clubs willing to offer Beauden Barrett massive money.

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                      • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #165

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="560641" data-time="1456352804">
                        <div>
                        <p>I have heard of five or six English and French clubs willing to offer Beauden Barrett massive money.</p>
                        </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>so whats changed?</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Euro clubs have always been keen to throw good money at quality SH players.</p>

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                        • Billy TellB Offline
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                          #166

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="560642" data-time="1456352993"><p>
                          so whats changed?<br><br>
                          Euro clubs have always been keen to throw good money at quality SH players.</p></blockquote>
                          <br>
                          Good has become stupendous. <br><br>
                          Players will be loyal to a certain point. Once your salary is going to triple...

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                          • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                            <p>I'd say it is all probably relative...as AB salaries have increased, so have the off shore offers.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>These guys earn great coin in NZ, but can earn a truck load more off shore, again, hasn't really changed!</p>

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                            • sparkyS Offline
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                              #168

                              <p>What's changed?</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>The amount of money on offer. Carter was Rugby's first £1 million a year player. Beauden Barrett is being offered close to double that.</p>

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                              • raznomoreR Offline
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                                #169

                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="560663" data-time="1456357267"><p>What's changed?<br><br>
                                The amount of money on offer. Carter was Rugby's first £1 million a year player. Beauden Barrett is being offered close to double that.</p></blockquote>
                                Maybe lead with that next time....<br><br>
                                What about Cruden. Only play 32 tests.<br><br>
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                                • UncoU Offline
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                                  #170

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Razbra" data-cid="560755" data-time="1456381673">
                                  <div>
                                  <p>Maybe lead with that next time....<br><br>
                                  What about Cruden. Only play 32 tests.<br><br>
                                  Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk</p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Still got two more years on his contract.</p>

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                                  • raznomoreR Offline
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                                    #171

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Unco" data-cid="560759" data-time="1456382305"><p>Still got two more years on his contract.</p></blockquote>
                                    Out clause?<br><br>
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                                    • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                                      taniwharugby
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                                      #172

                                      <p>Didnt Cruden point to the Lions as a reaosn for not looking at the 7s and Rio?</p>

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                                        #173

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="560775" data-time="1456384581">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>Didnt Cruden point to the Lions as a reaosn for not looking at the 7s and Rio?</p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>I don't remember Cruden ever being in the 7s frame; Barrett and B Smith used that reason though.</p>

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                                        • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                                          #174

                                          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/67683944/All-Blacks-star-Aaron-Cruden-turns-down-chance-to-make-Olympic-sevens-squad'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/67683944/All-Blacks-star-Aaron-Cruden-turns-down-chance-to-make-Olympic-sevens-squad</a></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p><span style="color:#fff0f5;"><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(16,16,16);">"Gordon asked if I was interested and I'm extremely flattered, but I think for me at this stage, not only the rugby side of it but in terms of things away from rugby as well, it probably just isn't the right time," Cruden told Radio Sport.</span></span></p>
                                          <p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(16,16,16);"><span style="color:#fff0f5;">"I have aspirations of playing against the Lions in 2017, and maybe taking a year off wouldn't do ... my chances any good."</span></p>
                                          </blockquote>

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