Exodus 2016
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<p>of those 3 names, Kaino would be the one most likely to go*, but the other 2, you'd think the Lions next year would be a huge carrot, and didn't BB also recently withdraw from the 7s to focus on 15s?</p>
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<p>*although if Kaino is still the AB 6 at the years end, surely he'd be keen to give the Lions a crack in a Black jersey!</p>
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<p>I would have thought Kaino was staying just for the Lions - there's not much left for him to do on his international bucket list.</p> -
<p>Both Kaino and Crockett have indicated that they want to end their careers in New Zealand and both are contracted through to 2018.</p>
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<p>Owen Franks' contract is until 2017.</p>
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<p>Thinking about ex/fringe All Blacks, Andy Ellis has 28 caps and will be free at the end of the season.</p>
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<p>I think Barrett fits the 30+ and free in 2016 best, but whether he wants to leave before the Lions tour?</p> -
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<div>I think Barrett fits the 30+ and free in 2016 best, but whether he wants to leave before the Lions tour?</div>
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<p>I doubt he would leave, but Barrett's decision to re-sign might depend on whether he gets the no.10 AB jersey. Would he be that keen to be the super-sub again?</p> -
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<p>SBW has over 30 caps and I would be shocked if he added to it.</p>
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<p>Isn't he still contracted to the NZRU after the Olympics? He could pick up a few caps on the EOYT. </p> -
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<p>I have heard of five or six English and French clubs willing to offer Beauden Barrett massive money.</p>
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<p>so whats changed?</p>
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so whats changed?<br><br>
Euro clubs have always been keen to throw good money at quality SH players.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I'd say it is all probably relative...as AB salaries have increased, so have the off shore offers.</p>
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<p>These guys earn great coin in NZ, but can earn a truck load more off shore, again, hasn't really changed!</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="560663" data-time="1456357267"><p>What's changed?<br><br>
The amount of money on offer. Carter was Rugby's first £1 million a year player. Beauden Barrett is being offered close to double that.</p></blockquote>
Maybe lead with that next time....<br><br>
What about Cruden. Only play 32 tests.<br><br>
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<p>Maybe lead with that next time....<br><br>
What about Cruden. Only play 32 tests.<br><br>
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<p>Didnt Cruden point to the Lions as a reaosn for not looking at the 7s and Rio?</p>
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<p>Didnt Cruden point to the Lions as a reaosn for not looking at the 7s and Rio?</p>
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<p>I don't remember Cruden ever being in the 7s frame; Barrett and B Smith used that reason though.</p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/67683944/All-Blacks-star-Aaron-Cruden-turns-down-chance-to-make-Olympic-sevens-squad'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/67683944/All-Blacks-star-Aaron-Cruden-turns-down-chance-to-make-Olympic-sevens-squad</a></p>
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<p><span style="color:#fff0f5;"><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(16,16,16);">"Gordon asked if I was interested and I'm extremely flattered, but I think for me at this stage, not only the rugby side of it but in terms of things away from rugby as well, it probably just isn't the right time," Cruden told Radio Sport.</span></span></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(16,16,16);"><span style="color:#fff0f5;">"I have aspirations of playing against the Lions in 2017, and maybe taking a year off wouldn't do ... my chances any good."</span></p>
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Cruden would be much less in demand than Barrett in Europe. A specialist 10 with a short kicking range hitting about 70% accuracy compared to a guy who can win matches in the last 20 with his speed etc and covers 10 and 15. Ok not such a great goal kicker either.
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<p>Cruden would be much less in demand than Barrett in Europe. A specialist 10 with a short kicking range hitting about 70% accuracy compared to a guy who can win matches in the last 20 with his speed etc and covers 10 and 15. Ok not such a great goal kicker either.</p>
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<p>Well that is bonkers if it is truly the case, and I'm not sure it actually is. </p> -
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<p>Well that is bonkers if it is truly the case, and I'm not sure it actually is. </p>
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<p>I really do think it is the case. Barrett is a genuine star in Europe. The number of high profile games where he has scored important tries in the last 20 minutes, not least the RWC final. Maybe some of our non-Kiwi people can comment: your club has free choice of Barrett or Cruden, who would you choose and who do you think most of your fans would choose?</p>
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<p>From knowing a fair number of Irish folk, it would definitely be Barrett.</p>
