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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Don Frye" data-cid="560718" data-time="1456370971"><p>
I'll be kind of surprised if the new flag doesn't win.<br><br>
There was almost 1.2 million that voted for a Lockwood design as first preference.<br><br>
There was only 2.4 million votes cast in the last general election.<br><br>
There's a very vocal group who are anti-change, but honestly I'm not even sure that some of them even have the capacity to cast a vote let alone actually have the wherewithal to show up on the day.</p></blockquote>
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You might have a good point there , during the last election if you believed the stuff you read in the media Key was toast. Leftards are very very vocal particularly on social media so it's hard to get a feel on whether they actually are expressing a feeling that widely held or it's just another way of expressing their key derangement syndrome. -
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No the mods did I think.<br><br>
I was agreeing with Don Frye, leftards are so vocal online it's hard to know if they actually are a good guage of the public opinion. The last election which he quoted figures from is a great example, you'd have though Key was toast if you believed the stuff that was turning up online. My favourite was every time a poll was mentioned showing something close to the actual results leftards would froth about how the polls were wrong because cellphones . It's no wonder a Key thanked David Farrier , his polls were bang on . -
<p>So what's the actual procedure for voting?</p>
<p>What day?</p>
<p>Where do you vote?</p>
<p>What times is voting open?</p>
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<p>Is it just like a general election (well my last one was early 1990's) where you drag your carcass down to a school or some such, get your name ticked off and then put an "x" somewhere?</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="560735" data-time="1456377935"><p>So what's the actual procedure for voting?<br>
What day?<br>
Where do you vote?<br>
What times is voting open?<br>
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Is it just like a general election (well my last one was early 1990's) where you drag your carcass down to a school or some such, get your name ticked off and then put an "x" somewhere?</p></blockquote>
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I don't expect the new flag to get voted in, but if it does, I will be enjoying a lot of schadenfreude</p></blockquote>
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Postal referendum, if not, I fear we would see issues at polling booths ;)<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.elections.org.nz/events/referendums-new-zealand-flag-0/voting-second-referendum">http://www.elections.org.nz/events/referendums-new-zealand-flag-0/voting-second-referendum</a>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="560743" data-time="1456378746">
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<p>Postal vote I think</p>
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<p>Postal referendum, if not, I fear we would see issues at polling booths ;)<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.elections.org.nz/events/referendums-new-zealand-flag-0/voting-second-referendum">http://www.elections.org.nz/events/referendums-new-zealand-flag-0/voting-second-referendum</a></p>
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<p>Thanks fellas</p>
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<p>Pretty good system, only relies on reading , ticking and finding a post box. Over here it's much easier, whoever gives you 20-50 bucks is the one you vote for easy peezy - then the army takes over but you've spent your money by then :)</p>
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<p> I don't expect the new flag to get voted in, but if it does, I will be enjoying a lot of schadenfreude</p>
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<p>I think it would require an FBI investigation. We have been told no-one wanted this referendum & no-one wants the news flag, so there would have to be paranormal phenomena to explain it I reckon.</p>
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<p>Vote away<br><br>
Was in Auckland yesterday, saw both flags hanging in the light breeze on the Harbour Bridge, reckon the new one looks better in real life.</p>
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<p>I think it would require an FBI investigation. <strong>We have been told no-one wanted this referendum & no-one wants the news flag,</strong> so there would have to be paranormal phenomena to explain it I reckon.</p>
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<p>(I'm still expecting the old flag to win by about 55% to 45%).</p>
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<p>We've also been told its a distraction from the tppa sighing,a massive waste of money, a failed process because no vexoligists were involved [the flag expert who was on the committee doesn't count apparently] a vanity project for Key, already decided by Key so the vote is a farce, a way of avoiding treaty obligations. </p>
<p>I'd vote for change if the new flag was a picture of Gerry Brownlee 69ing Helen Clark on a green and gold background to avoid being associated with the sorts of losers who buy into that crap.</p> -
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<p>We've also been told its a distraction from the tppa sighing,a massive waste of money, a failed process because no vexoligists were involved [the flag expert who was on the committee doesn't count apparently] a vanity project for Key, already decided by Key so the vote is a farce, a way of avoiding treaty obligations. </p>
<p><strong>I'd vote for change if the new flag was a picture of Gerry Brownlee 69ing Helen Clark on a green and gold background to avoid being associated with the sorts of losers who buy into that crap.</strong></p>
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<p>You are a sick, sick bastard Jegga. :puke:</p> -
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We've also been told its a distraction from the tppa sighing,a massive waste of money, a failed process because no vexoligists were involved [the flag expert who was on the committee doesn't count apparently] a vanity project for Key, already decided by Key so the vote is a farce, a way of avoiding treaty obligations. <br>
I'd vote for change if the new flag was a picture of Gerry Brownlee 69ing Helen Clark on a green and gold background to avoid being associated with the sorts of losers who buy into that crap.</p></blockquote>Some prick walked dog shit into the office today and I drew the short straw to clean it up. 5 intensive rounds of rock,paper,scissors and proposed cost evaluation of getting the cleaner in for a one off and then finally i gave in. <br><br>
Who knew cleaning up dog shit wouldnt be the grossest thing id come across today.<br><br>
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<p>We've also been told its a distraction from the tppa sighing,a massive waste of money, a failed process because no vexoligists were involved [the flag expert who was on the committee doesn't count apparently] a vanity project for Key, already decided by Key so the vote is a farce, a way of avoiding treaty obligations. </p>
<p>I'd vote for change if the new flag was a picture of Gerry Brownlee 69ing Helen Clark on a green and gold background to avoid being associated with the sorts of losers who buy into that crap.</p>
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<p>Somehow I don't think that's going to make it into one of Mokey's books!</p>
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<p>Thanks fellas</p>
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<p>Pretty good system, only relies on reading , ticking and finding a post box. Over here it's much easier, whoever gives you 20-50 bucks is the one you vote for easy peezy - then the army takes over but you've spent your money by then :)</p>
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<p>Perhaps a TSF poll to spice up this nation changing referendum ;)</p>
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<p>I voted online in the first referendum.</p>
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<p>Somehow I don't think that's going to make it into one of Mokey's books!</p>
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<p>Somehow I don't think that's going to make it into one of Mokey's books!</p>
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<p><strong>As an aside, what do you consider genuine/legit disagreement or warranted unhappiness about the whole flag bizo?</strong></p>
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<p>The timing I guess, there's been no real push for change and the two previous attempts failed to get traction. If someone had said " hang on is this the time to be doing this, we still have a generation that has a very real attachment to this flag and we should respect that" I could understand that. I'd still want change though.</p>
<p>The reasons offered have been largely centred around a rabid dislike for Key and national , how weak to let feelings like that decide our flag.</p>
