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<p>Anyway fuckwits of the leftard community, here is your problem.</p>
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<p>I'm pro the change, but i'm not sure I cared enough to vote. But I do now. And I'll be voting against you and your utterly ridiculous infantile thoughts.</p>
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<p>I'm just one person, but I'm 100% positive there are thousands more in the same situation.</p> -
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<p>"The process is fkawed argument" seems to boil down to "I didn't get a design I like".<br><br>
I like the alternative.<br><br>
Vote change!!!</p>
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<p>I would vote for change, despite the fact I didn't get the choice I liked and I think the process was flawed ....</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="560884" data-time="1456445086"><p>Anyway fuckwits of the leftard community, here is your problem.<br>
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I'm pro the change, but i'm not sure I cared enough to vote. But I do now. And I'll be voting against you and your utterly ridiculous infantile thoughts.<br>
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I'm just one person, but I'm 100% positive there are thousands more in the same situation.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Oh my god, MR. I feel infinitely more stupid having read those FB posts. Calling Richie a traitor along the lines of Coutts? That is crossing a giant fucking line. As for the moron claiming only those who voted in the first round will get sent papers, I can't even.</p>
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<p>If anything, this debunks the whole survival of the fittest theory, because we seem to have a fuckton of fucktards running around.</p> -
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<p>I would have inverted the process, vote do you want to change yes/no. If that got up then do your informal yet extensive market research to find out what components and colours we most favour in a flag, have a small but accountable committee come up with a handful of options behind close doors and the have the govt of the day pick whichever they desire (facing the political consequences if they pick a travesty).</p>
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<p>How would that have worked? If I had been asked "do you want to change the flag, yes/no" my immediate response would have been "why, what are you offering as an alternative?".</p>
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<p>Without giving people an alternative up front voting yes to a change isn't making a choice, it's just rejecting the status quo. You'd have to have a real ideological dislike for the current flag to do that. While I'm open to the idea of a new flag if the right alternative is put before me I don't feel strongly enough to simply reject the existing one out of hand.</p>
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<p>it would also add to the suspicion that already exists that a flag has already been chosen if you are not given a choice.</p>
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<p>It'd be like your boss saying you currently drive a KIA Sorrento for your company car, "do you want a new car or not?" Er, what will I get, well we have decided yet, it could be a Ford Fiesta, a Toyota Vitz or maybe a Ferrari....at which point you'd be thinking, like fuck they are getting me a Ferrari, I think I'll keep what I have!</p>
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<p>haha not the best analogy, but works for me :)</p> -
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<p>Anyway fuckwits of the leftard community, here is your problem.</p>
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<p>I'm pro the change, but i'm not sure I cared enough to vote. But I do now. And I'll be voting against you and your utterly ridiculous infantile thoughts.</p>
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<p>I'm just one person, but I'm 100% positive there are thousands more in the same situation.</p>
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<p>I'm exactly the same :)</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="560902" data-time="1456448173"><p>I would vote for change, despite the fact I didn't get the choice I liked and I think the process was flawed ....</p></blockquote>
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How was the process flawed? I think " the process was flawed" is to the flag as " the negotiations were done in secret" is to the TPPA . A red herring leftards have seized upon as a reason for not supporting it. -
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<p>I would vote for change, despite the fact I didn't get the choice I liked and I think the process was flawed ....</p>
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<p>so you don't like the new option and you think the process is flawed...but if you liked the flag that was on offer, would you still think the process flawed or just dumb luck getting one you liked?</p> -
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<p>so you don't like the new option and you think the process is flawed...but if you liked the flag that was on offer, would you still think the process flawed or just dumb luck getting one you liked?</p>
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<p>the only reason them leftists would ever like the alternative is if that bastard Key was influencing them with subliminal messaging through the puppet media. That's why Campbell had to be fired, he wouldn't let it happen on his show. </p>
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<p>The process is flawed!</p>
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<p>so you don't like the new option and you think the process is flawed...but if you liked the flag that was on offer, would you still think the process flawed or just dumb luck getting one you liked?</p>
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<p>Yeah, the process was higgilty piggilty and still would have been if the right one (we all know what it is ;)) was added a la Red Peak - it would still be flawed.</p>
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<p>I like the new option better than the old option.</p> -
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<p>Yeah, the process was higgilty piggilty and still would have been if the right one (we all know what it is ;)) was added a la Red Peak - it would still be flawed.</p>
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<p>I like the new option better than the old option.</p>
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<p>How was the process "higgilty pigglty'? </p>
<p>I agree with the others saying that the lefties are just making shit up about the process as a pathetic excuse to bleat.</p> -
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<p>with the oe</p>
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<p>How was the process "higgilty pigglty'? </p>
<p>I agree with the others saying that the lefties are just making shit up about the process as a pathetic excuse to bleat.</p>
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<p>For a start, a flag not chosen by the team assigned to chose the flags was added (even if it was the one that some lefties wanted) due to media pressure.</p>
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<p>The anti flag lefties/conservatives were going to bleat no matter what and there are pro flag change (even righties in this thread) people who have an issue with the process.</p> -
<p>If you're going to complain about something, I guess you could argue that there wasn't much desire for change and that starting up the process in the first place was a flawed decision. But I really don't see how anyone can complain about the process itself. I mean they even changed the rules to include Red Engineering Firm Flag. Can't get much more inclusive than that.</p>
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<p>I wouldn't vote for a change because I don't like the alternative designs. That's just a matter of taste on my part and not the fault of John Key or anyone else.</p>
