The hot takes and unpopular opinions
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@canefan said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Crucial said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Brisket.
The worst texture of any cut of beef even when lovingly cooked for 12 hours.
Clearly you're doing it wrong
Nope.
Even done really well by skilled pit operators the texture is still the worst of any beef cut.
There's a reason why it became the cut of choice for long slow smoking and thats because it may as well be used for retreading tyres. It's all cross grained with two muscles running in opposite directions.
So many ways to fuck it up and when fucked up it is horrid.
Incredibly over rated just because it is the traditional cut for a certain style of cooking which has an aim of making the inedible edible.It's like golfing for cooks. A good deal of satisfaction when you get it right but ultimately a waste f time.
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@Crucial said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@canefan said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Crucial said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Brisket.
The worst texture of any cut of beef even when lovingly cooked for 12 hours.
Clearly you're doing it wrong
Nope.
Even done really well by skilled pit operators the texture is still the worst of any beef cut.
There's a reason why it became the cut of choice for long slow smoking and thats because it may as well be used for retreading tyres. It's all cross grained with two muscles running in opposite directions.
So many ways to fuck it up and when fucked up it is horrid.
Incredibly over rated just because it is the traditional cut for a certain style of cooking which has an aim of making the inedible edible.It's like golfing for cooks. A good deal of satisfaction when you get it right but ultimately a waste f time.
Wasn't that the aim of most of the great cuisines of the world? I guess you don't like pastrami then either...
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@Crucial you're welcome to your opinion, but for me it's one of the nicest cuts cooked right.
Eye fillet is great, but a bit boring- it gets old after a while.
Brisket with a spicy rub, plenty of smoke and cooked right is just an intense smoky spicy beefy meat butter. Yes, there's grain to it, and if you don't like that then so be it, but for me it's top of the tree for beef. Sensational.
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@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Crucial you're welcome to your opinion, but for me it's one of the nicest cuts cooked right.
Eye fillet is great, but a bit boring- it gets old after a while.
Brisket with a spicy rub, plenty of smoke and cooked right is just an intense smoky spicy beefy meat butter. Yes, there's grain to it, and if you don't like that then so be it, but for me it's top of the tree for beef. Sensational.
I'm just saying that the result is over rated in relation to the cost and effort put in. IMO of course.
Hobby food.Add up all the money and time spent on doing good brisket then go buy a cast iron pan and spend the remainder on the best marbled steaks you can find
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@booboo said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Been said ( @dogmeat ) but The Doors are shit.
They are are not the coolest ever, wished I lived in the 60s because Jom Morrison was a poet man, not just some commercial drone bro because drugs huh.
I hate The Doors.
Oh fuck yes. Testify brother.
At Uni I even got stoned and tried to listen to it . Still shit.
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@nzzp I can see where you are both coming from. Brisket done well is bloody good but so are lots of other cuts that are a bit more forgiving and don't ask you to invest so much into the cooking. I reckon he has a point that the investment colours how rewarding it is when you nail it but I agree with you that its still a potentially great eat. I can't dispute what he says about the texture though.
Where I disagree with you is over eye fillet. I never cook it. It's completely the opposite to brisket. Demands zero skill and gives you no psychological reward. Haven't eaten it for years - flavourless baby food for carnivores. Maybe in another two decades when I have no teeth but even then I think I'd rather have a nice bowl of congee
edit. Soup got me thinking. Brisket is good in pho and you can't fuck it up
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@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Brisket with a spicy rub, plenty of smoke and cooked right is just an intense smoky spicy beefy meat butter. Yes, there's grain to it, and if you don't like that then so be it, but for me it's top of the tree for beef. Sensational.
There are a couple of guys at my rugby club into smoking. A few clubs around Sydney have themed burger/sandwich offerings so we have gone down the road of getting one of them to run that overnight and then do it on rolls the next day at home games with coleslaw and tangy BBQ sauce (Sweet Baby Ray's or Stubbs').
Only 2 home games this year, but so far a winner.
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Fuck me. This is a training thread for old (and nearly old) men yell at clouds
I now image you all as...
except he's smiling! Or is that a hemorrhoids related grimace?
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@Paekakboyz Training? I thought most of us had already graduated.
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@Paekakboyz said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Fuck me. This is a training thread for old (and nearly old) men yell at clouds
I now image you all as...
except he's smiling! Or is that a hemorrhoids related grimace?
We've been FB mates for years. You should know I've yelled at clouds virtually all that time.
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@Donsteppa ha ha you know a bunch got held back - maybe this year we'll see some graduations... maybe.
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@Crucial said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@canefan said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Crucial said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Brisket.
The worst texture of any cut of beef even when lovingly cooked for 12 hours.
Clearly you're doing it wrong
Nope.
Even done really well by skilled pit operators the texture is still the worst of any beef cut.
There's a reason why it became the cut of choice for long slow smoking and thats because it may as well be used for retreading tyres. It's all cross grained with two muscles running in opposite directions.
So many ways to fuck it up and when fucked up it is horrid.
Incredibly over rated just because it is the traditional cut for a certain style of cooking which has an aim of making the inedible edible.It's like golfing for cooks. A good deal of satisfaction when you get it right but ultimately a waste f time.
my compliments to anyone who can nail a good Braai.
South Africans are blowarses by nature ( I bet no one can cook one quite like a prime Frans Botha ) but braais are where they actually backup the bullshit in my opinion. Magnificent eating.
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@Crucial said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Crucial you're welcome to your opinion, but for me it's one of the nicest cuts cooked right.
Eye fillet is great, but a bit boring- it gets old after a while.
Brisket with a spicy rub, plenty of smoke and cooked right is just an intense smoky spicy beefy meat butter. Yes, there's grain to it, and if you don't like that then so be it, but for me it's top of the tree for beef. Sensational.
I'm just saying that the result is over rated in relation to the cost and effort put in. IMO of course.
Hobby food.Add up all the money and time spent on doing good brisket then go buy a cast iron pan and spend the remainder on the best marbled steaks you can find
Thats fair. Each to their own I guess. But brisket in the right hands is lovely to eat. If we are talking beef I would probably say eye fillet is the meat overrated cut by far. Good in Wellington but generally for people who actually don't know what good steak tastes and eats like
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@voodoo said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
I hate Wagyu. And I hate it what steak restaurants cut my steak for me, I'm not fucking 7, I can use a knife myself.
Gimme a ribeye on the bone please.
Wagyu - agree.
Resto cutting it? Nah that’s all good. Especislly on a tomahawk / cote de boeuf.
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@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
To be honest the only opinion that I hold likely to cause an explosion of disagreement is that Steve Larkham is the best player I’ve seen.
Not that outrageous. "Prime" Dan Carter though...
For 10s anyway.
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@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
I could go on for hours on this list being the moaning old bastard that I am. And loving a stir / troll ...
To be honest the only opinion that I hold likely to cause an explosion of disagreement is that Steve Larkham is the best player I’ve seen.
He was an outstanding player in an outstanding era for aussie rugby
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@voodoo said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
I hate Wagyu.
Wagyu or actual Japanese like Kobe or Yonezawa? Real Best cattle meat I've eaten. I'm not interested in peasant cuts that have to be cooked slowly for days to make them edible.
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@MajorRage said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
I could go on for hours on this list being the moaning old bastard that I am. And loving a stir / troll ...
To be honest the only opinion that I hold likely to cause an explosion of disagreement is that Steve Larkham is the best player I’ve seen.
My unpopular opinion is that he was overrated and doesn't compare with Ella or Lynagh in Oz 10 rankings.
@voodoo said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Nepia said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@TeWaio said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Fireworks
Yeah I don't get fireworks eh. Whoopdeedoo.
In general I'm not much of a fan of fireworks but I saw some awesome ones coming of the old castle set to classical music at Pamplona one year. The problem is I now compare all fireworks against them.
In any normal year I can see fireworks pretty much every night during the middle and every week for most of the rest of the year as I live near Darling Harbour. Good for when I have guests but I just use it so I know what time it is.
Was that during running of the bulls? They'd be my most memorable also
Yup!
