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  • Number 10N Number 10

    Magpies play final pre-season game tomorrow v Auckland.

    Last Friday the pre-season game v Waikato at Taupo ended in a 31-31 draw, Waikato scoring a converted try after the hooter to draw level.

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    @Number-10 Thanks. I knew about the games, but the HBRU has been awfully quiet about them. No info whatsoever. They don't seem to understand that fans want info about these games, such as team lists, results, scorers, even if we can't watch the game. Some unions are good at fan engagement this way; the HBRU certainly isn't.

    Still hoping they'll do better for the Auckland game, although I doubt there will be a livestream, considering the game is at a neutral venue in Rotorua. But surely someone must be able to use a phone and post updates on Twitter or Facebook?

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      The Magpies squad for the Auckland game in Rotorua (k/o 2.30pm) has been published in the article below:

      15 Kurt Baker, 14 Jonah Lowe, 13 Stacey Ili, 12 Ollie Sapsford, 11 Mason Emerson, 10 Lincoln McClutchie, 9 Folau Fakatava, 8 Devan Flanders, 7 Brendon O'Connor, 6 Solomone Funaki, 5 Geoff Cridge, 4 Tom Parsons, 3 Joe Apikotoa, 2 Jacob Devery, 1 Pouri Rakete-Stones.

      Substitutes:
      Forwards, Dom Devine, Sona Taumalolo, Joel Hintz, Jason Long, Elijah Martin, Bryn Evans, Iakopo Mapu, Josh Gimblett.
      Backs, Connor McLeod, Caleb Makene, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Sebastian Visinia, Neria Fomai.

      I wonder whether it's really Sebastian Visinia, or is it Lolagi, who is the brother actually signed by the HBRU? If it's really Bas in that line-up, where is Lolagi?

      Also:

      Ozich is impressed with the momentum his lads have been generating since the squad's Super players began returning a fortnight ago. Captain and hooker Ash Dixon and former All Black halfback Brad Weber will be missing today because of their commitment to their respective North and South teams at tonight's inter-island clash in Wellington.
      
      It is still not known whether openside flanker Josh Kaifa will miss the entire Mitre 10 Cup season with his knee injury.
      
      Prop Namatahi Waa will miss today's match as he is still recovering from appendix surgery and midfield back Sam McNicol is still recovering from injury. Several Super players including loosies Gareth Evans and Marino Mikaele-Tu'u and lock Isaia Walker-Leawere are still being rested.  They will all be in the Magpies Mitre 10 Cup squash which will be announced on Monday.
      

      https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/magpies-rugby-coaches-place-emphasis-on-contact-area

      I had to google the name of Dom Devine, as I didn't know who he was, and found the article below. Interesting, because if I'm right, we still need a prop to replace Tavita-Metcalfe (and another back):

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12314535

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        Will there be a live stream of this game. Anyone posting updates?

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          Will there be a live stream of this game. Anyone posting updates?

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          @number9 I've been looking about every 10 minutes, today, but haven't been able to find any info about a livestream or even score updates being given. Unfortunately, this game is being played in Rotorua - so no home game for either team - which makes arranging a livestream probably more difficult. No excuse for either team to not posting any updates though.

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            @number9 I've been looking about every 10 minutes, today, but haven't been able to find any info about a livestream or even score updates being given. Unfortunately, this game is being played in Rotorua - so no home game for either team - which makes arranging a livestream probably more difficult. No excuse for either team to not posting any updates though.

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            @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

            @number9 I've been looking about every 10 minutes, today, but haven't been able to find any info about a livestream or even score updates being given. Unfortunately, this game is being played in Rotorua - so no home game for either team - which makes arranging a livestream probably more difficult. No excuse for either team to not posting any updates though.

            Cheera mate.

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              @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

              @number9 I've been looking about every 10 minutes, today, but haven't been able to find any info about a livestream or even score updates being given. Unfortunately, this game is being played in Rotorua - so no home game for either team - which makes arranging a livestream probably more difficult. No excuse for either team to not posting any updates though.

              Cheera mate.

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              Anyone know Auckland 23 there playing

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                Anyone know Auckland 23 there playing

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                @frazzerbazzer Nope, not posted anywhere.

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                  From the Auckland instagram stories:

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                    #164

                    Found this just now - but nothing on the Auckland lineup.
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                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                      Found this just now - but nothing on the Auckland lineup.
                      bf9b26d1-a052-4792-bfa9-9da765072b20-image.png

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                      @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah, I had already posted the Magpies line-up this morning, but have indeed not been able to find the Auckland squad.

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                        @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah, I had already posted the Magpies line-up this morning, but have indeed not been able to find the Auckland squad.

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                        @Stargazer Thats an ok result for Auckland considering first game and they were not even allowed to train together until Monday this week.

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                          The Magpies squad for the Auckland game in Rotorua (k/o 2.30pm) has been published in the article below:

                          15 Kurt Baker, 14 Jonah Lowe, 13 Stacey Ili, 12 Ollie Sapsford, 11 Mason Emerson, 10 Lincoln McClutchie, 9 Folau Fakatava, 8 Devan Flanders, 7 Brendon O'Connor, 6 Solomone Funaki, 5 Geoff Cridge, 4 Tom Parsons, 3 Joe Apikotoa, 2 Jacob Devery, 1 Pouri Rakete-Stones.

                          Substitutes:
                          Forwards, Dom Devine, Sona Taumalolo, Joel Hintz, Jason Long, Elijah Martin, Bryn Evans, Iakopo Mapu, Josh Gimblett.
                          Backs, Connor McLeod, Caleb Makene, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Sebastian Visinia, Neria Fomai.

                          I wonder whether it's really Sebastian Visinia, or is it Lolagi, who is the brother actually signed by the HBRU? If it's really Bas in that line-up, where is Lolagi?

                          Also:

                          Ozich is impressed with the momentum his lads have been generating since the squad's Super players began returning a fortnight ago. Captain and hooker Ash Dixon and former All Black halfback Brad Weber will be missing today because of their commitment to their respective North and South teams at tonight's inter-island clash in Wellington.
                          
                          It is still not known whether openside flanker Josh Kaifa will miss the entire Mitre 10 Cup season with his knee injury.
                          
                          Prop Namatahi Waa will miss today's match as he is still recovering from appendix surgery and midfield back Sam McNicol is still recovering from injury. Several Super players including loosies Gareth Evans and Marino Mikaele-Tu'u and lock Isaia Walker-Leawere are still being rested.  They will all be in the Magpies Mitre 10 Cup squash which will be announced on Monday.
                          

                          https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/magpies-rugby-coaches-place-emphasis-on-contact-area

                          I had to google the name of Dom Devine, as I didn't know who he was, and found the article below. Interesting, because if I'm right, we still need a prop to replace Tavita-Metcalfe (and another back):

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12314535

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                          @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

                          I had to google the name of Dom Devine, as I didn't know who he was, and found the article below. Interesting, because if I'm right, we still need a prop to replace Tavita-Metcalfe (and another back):

                          he had a young Hoskins Sotutu in that same U15 squad at Sacred Heart

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                            The Magpies squad will be announced at 8am tomorrow (Monday, 7 Sep).

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                              The Magpies 2020 Mitre 10 Cup squad is:

                              Joe Apikotoa, Kurt Baker, Geoff Cridge, Jacob Devery, Ash Dixon (captain), Mason Emerson, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Folau Fakatava, Devan Flanders, Neria Fomai, Solomone Funaki, Joel Hintz, Stracey Ili, Josh Kaifa, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Jason Long, Jonah Lowe, Caleb Makene, Iakopo Mapu, Elijah Martin, Lincoln McClutchie, Connor McLeod, Sam McNicol, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Brendon O'Connor, Tom Parsons, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Ollie Sapsford, Sona Taumalolo, Danny Toala, Will Tremain, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Lolagi Visinia, Sebastian Visinia, Namatahi Waa, Isaia Walker-Leawere and Brad Weber.

                              https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/plenty-of-depth-in-magpies-mitre-10-cup-rugby-squad

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                                I think this is the squad by position:

                                Prop
                                Joe Apikotoa (TH)
                                Joel Hintz (TH)
                                Jason Long (LH, also hooker)
                                Pouri Rakete-Stones (LH & TH)
                                Sona Taumalolo (LH)
                                Namatahi Waa (TH)

                                Hooker
                                Jacob Devery
                                Ash Dixon
                                Kianu Kereru Symes (also prop)

                                Lock
                                Geoff Cridge (also 6)
                                Bryn Evans
                                Elijah Martin
                                Tom Parsons
                                Isaia Walker-Leawere

                                Loose forward
                                Gareth Evans (8, also 7 & 6)
                                Devan Flanders (8/6, can cover lock)
                                Solomone Funaki (7 & 6)
                                Josh Kaifa (7)
                                Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (8/6)
                                Will Tremain (7)
                                Brendon O'Connor (7 & 8 )
                                Iakopo Mapu (7, 8 )

                                Halfback
                                Folau Fakatava
                                Connor McLeod
                                Brad Weber (will be with the ABs for most of the season)

                                First five-eighth
                                Lincoln McClutchie

                                Midfielder
                                Neria Fomai (13)
                                Danny Toala (12, 15, may be used at 10)
                                Loloagi Visinia
                                Sebastian Visinia

                                Outside back
                                Mason Emerson (wing)
                                Jonah Lowe (wing, also 13)
                                Ollie Sapsford (wing, also midfield)
                                Anzelo Tuitavuki (wing)

                                Utility back
                                Kurt Baker (will probably be used at 15)
                                Stacey Ili (may be used at 10)
                                Caleb Makene (may be used at 10)
                                Sam McNicol

                                Great looking squad, but ... I'm not happy with only one specialist first five-eighth in the team. They must have known for quite a while that Falcon wouldn't be available. Was it really that hard to find one more 10? We have Latrell Smiler-Ah Kiong and Jordan Thompson-Dunn for the future, and they'll probably be on standby, but it's probably too early for both of them.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  The Magpies 2020 Mitre 10 Cup squad is:

                                  Joe Apikotoa, Kurt Baker, Geoff Cridge, Jacob Devery, Ash Dixon (captain), Mason Emerson, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Folau Fakatava, Devan Flanders, Neria Fomai, Solomone Funaki, Joel Hintz, Stracey Ili, Josh Kaifa, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Jason Long, Jonah Lowe, Caleb Makene, Iakopo Mapu, Elijah Martin, Lincoln McClutchie, Connor McLeod, Sam McNicol, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Brendon O'Connor, Tom Parsons, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Ollie Sapsford, Sona Taumalolo, Danny Toala, Will Tremain, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Lolagi Visinia, Sebastian Visinia, Namatahi Waa, Isaia Walker-Leawere and Brad Weber.

                                  https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/plenty-of-depth-in-magpies-mitre-10-cup-rugby-squad

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                                  @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

                                  The Magpies 2020 Mitre 10 Cup squad is:

                                  Joe Apikotoa, Kurt Baker, Geoff Cridge, Jacob Devery, Ash Dixon (captain), Mason Emerson, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Folau Fakatava, Devan Flanders, Neria Fomai, Solomone Funaki, Joel Hintz, Stracey Ili, Josh Kaifa, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Jason Long, Jonah Lowe, Caleb Makene, Iakopo Mapu, Elijah Martin, Lincoln McClutchie, Connor McLeod, Sam McNicol, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Brendon O'Connor, Tom Parsons, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Ollie Sapsford, Sona Taumalolo, Danny Toala, Will Tremain, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Lolagi Visinia, Sebastian Visinia, Namatahi Waa, Isaia Walker-Leawere and Brad Weber.

                                  https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/plenty-of-depth-in-magpies-mitre-10-cup-rugby-squad

                                  A fairly predictable squad in the end,not so sure I like the cocky attitude of the reporter,I hope the players aren't thinking they are sure things to win it.Whats everyones predicted best 23???

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                                    @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

                                    The Magpies 2020 Mitre 10 Cup squad is:

                                    Joe Apikotoa, Kurt Baker, Geoff Cridge, Jacob Devery, Ash Dixon (captain), Mason Emerson, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Folau Fakatava, Devan Flanders, Neria Fomai, Solomone Funaki, Joel Hintz, Stracey Ili, Josh Kaifa, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Jason Long, Jonah Lowe, Caleb Makene, Iakopo Mapu, Elijah Martin, Lincoln McClutchie, Connor McLeod, Sam McNicol, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Brendon O'Connor, Tom Parsons, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Ollie Sapsford, Sona Taumalolo, Danny Toala, Will Tremain, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Lolagi Visinia, Sebastian Visinia, Namatahi Waa, Isaia Walker-Leawere and Brad Weber.

                                    https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/plenty-of-depth-in-magpies-mitre-10-cup-rugby-squad

                                    A fairly predictable squad in the end,not so sure I like the cocky attitude of the reporter,I hope the players aren't thinking they are sure things to win it.Whats everyones predicted best 23???

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                                    @kiwimatrix I think we've got one of the best Magpies squads of the last few years, with a good combo of experience and youthful talent, and some depth. One of the best, on paper. You always have to wait and see how players perform on the day. I do hope everyone will underestimate the Magpies again, just like last year. Nobody gave us a chance of a semifinals spot in 2019, and we convincingly reached the final. I can see us do that again, but only if we're being spared major injuries. I still have nightmares of that year we had approx 16 players in the injury ward (was it 2017?).

                                    I think a good 23 would be (assuming everyone is fit and healthy):

                                    1 Sona Taumalolo (depending on what form he's in, it's hard to know without having seen him play recently)
                                    2 Ash Dixon
                                    3 Pouri Rakete-Stones
                                    4 Bryn Evans
                                    5 Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                    6 Devan Flanders
                                    7 Gareth Evans
                                    8 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u
                                    9 Brad Weber / Folau Fakatava (Brad only available in round 1?)
                                    10 Lincoln McClutchie
                                    11 Lolagi Visinia (or Sam McNicol, if Lolagi plays in the midfield)
                                    12 Danny Toala
                                    13 Neria Fomai / Lolagi Visinia
                                    14 Jonah Lowe
                                    15 Kurt Baker (I'm far from convinced, but as an AB7s player, he's likely to get the start, I guess)

                                    16 Kianu Kereru-Symes
                                    17 Jason Long
                                    18 Joe Apikotoa or Joel Hintz
                                    19 Tom Parsons or Geoff Cridge
                                    20 Brendon O'Connor
                                    21 Folau Fakatava / Connor McLeod
                                    22 Caleb Makene (covers 10 and fullback)
                                    23 Sam McNicol (covers wing and midfield) / Neria Fomai if Lolagi Visinia start at 13

                                    The line-up for the first game against Southland may be different though, considering some SR players have just returned, Bryn Evans has only just joined the squad, Taumalolo hasn't played for a while, O'Connor same same (did he play club rugby at all?) and there are some question marks about the fitness of players such as Gareth Evans, Danny Toala (got injured in club final) and Sam McNicol. Also, are Kereru-Symes and Lolagi Visinia injured; they weren't in the line-up for the PS game against Auckland?

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                                      @kiwimatrix I think we've got one of the best Magpies squads of the last few years, with a good combo of experience and youthful talent, and some depth. One of the best, on paper. You always have to wait and see how players perform on the day. I do hope everyone will underestimate the Magpies again, just like last year. Nobody gave us a chance of a semifinals spot in 2019, and we convincingly reached the final. I can see us do that again, but only if we're being spared major injuries. I still have nightmares of that year we had approx 16 players in the injury ward (was it 2017?).

                                      I think a good 23 would be (assuming everyone is fit and healthy):

                                      1 Sona Taumalolo (depending on what form he's in, it's hard to know without having seen him play recently)
                                      2 Ash Dixon
                                      3 Pouri Rakete-Stones
                                      4 Bryn Evans
                                      5 Isaia Walker-Leawere
                                      6 Devan Flanders
                                      7 Gareth Evans
                                      8 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u
                                      9 Brad Weber / Folau Fakatava (Brad only available in round 1?)
                                      10 Lincoln McClutchie
                                      11 Lolagi Visinia (or Sam McNicol, if Lolagi plays in the midfield)
                                      12 Danny Toala
                                      13 Neria Fomai / Lolagi Visinia
                                      14 Jonah Lowe
                                      15 Kurt Baker (I'm far from convinced, but as an AB7s player, he's likely to get the start, I guess)

                                      16 Kianu Kereru-Symes
                                      17 Jason Long
                                      18 Joe Apikotoa or Joel Hintz
                                      19 Tom Parsons or Geoff Cridge
                                      20 Brendon O'Connor
                                      21 Folau Fakatava / Connor McLeod
                                      22 Caleb Makene (covers 10 and fullback)
                                      23 Sam McNicol (covers wing and midfield) / Neria Fomai if Lolagi Visinia start at 13

                                      The line-up for the first game against Southland may be different though, considering some SR players have just returned, Bryn Evans has only just joined the squad, Taumalolo hasn't played for a while, O'Connor same same (did he play club rugby at all?) and there are some question marks about the fitness of players such as Gareth Evans, Danny Toala (got injured in club final) and Sam McNicol. Also, are Kereru-Symes and Lolagi Visinia injured; they weren't in the line-up for the PS game against Auckland?

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                                      @Stargazer Surely this is last chance for McNicol if he doesn't last most of this season they have to cut him loose.

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                                        @stargazer Remind me please, what has happened to Tiaan Falcon?

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                                          @stargazer Remind me please, what has happened to Tiaan Falcon?

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                                          @Higgins He's signed with Toyota Verblitz in Japan; same club as Allardice. Coach: Steve Hansen.

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