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Magpies 2020

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    From the Auckland instagram stories:

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      Found this just now - but nothing on the Auckland lineup.
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        Found this just now - but nothing on the Auckland lineup.
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        @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah, I had already posted the Magpies line-up this morning, but have indeed not been able to find the Auckland squad.

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          @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah, I had already posted the Magpies line-up this morning, but have indeed not been able to find the Auckland squad.

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          @Stargazer Thats an ok result for Auckland considering first game and they were not even allowed to train together until Monday this week.

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            The Magpies squad for the Auckland game in Rotorua (k/o 2.30pm) has been published in the article below:

            15 Kurt Baker, 14 Jonah Lowe, 13 Stacey Ili, 12 Ollie Sapsford, 11 Mason Emerson, 10 Lincoln McClutchie, 9 Folau Fakatava, 8 Devan Flanders, 7 Brendon O'Connor, 6 Solomone Funaki, 5 Geoff Cridge, 4 Tom Parsons, 3 Joe Apikotoa, 2 Jacob Devery, 1 Pouri Rakete-Stones.

            Substitutes:
            Forwards, Dom Devine, Sona Taumalolo, Joel Hintz, Jason Long, Elijah Martin, Bryn Evans, Iakopo Mapu, Josh Gimblett.
            Backs, Connor McLeod, Caleb Makene, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Sebastian Visinia, Neria Fomai.

            I wonder whether it's really Sebastian Visinia, or is it Lolagi, who is the brother actually signed by the HBRU? If it's really Bas in that line-up, where is Lolagi?

            Also:

            Ozich is impressed with the momentum his lads have been generating since the squad's Super players began returning a fortnight ago. Captain and hooker Ash Dixon and former All Black halfback Brad Weber will be missing today because of their commitment to their respective North and South teams at tonight's inter-island clash in Wellington.
            
            It is still not known whether openside flanker Josh Kaifa will miss the entire Mitre 10 Cup season with his knee injury.
            
            Prop Namatahi Waa will miss today's match as he is still recovering from appendix surgery and midfield back Sam McNicol is still recovering from injury. Several Super players including loosies Gareth Evans and Marino Mikaele-Tu'u and lock Isaia Walker-Leawere are still being rested.  They will all be in the Magpies Mitre 10 Cup squash which will be announced on Monday.
            

            https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/magpies-rugby-coaches-place-emphasis-on-contact-area

            I had to google the name of Dom Devine, as I didn't know who he was, and found the article below. Interesting, because if I'm right, we still need a prop to replace Tavita-Metcalfe (and another back):

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12314535

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            @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

            I had to google the name of Dom Devine, as I didn't know who he was, and found the article below. Interesting, because if I'm right, we still need a prop to replace Tavita-Metcalfe (and another back):

            he had a young Hoskins Sotutu in that same U15 squad at Sacred Heart

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              The Magpies squad will be announced at 8am tomorrow (Monday, 7 Sep).

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                The Magpies 2020 Mitre 10 Cup squad is:

                Joe Apikotoa, Kurt Baker, Geoff Cridge, Jacob Devery, Ash Dixon (captain), Mason Emerson, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Folau Fakatava, Devan Flanders, Neria Fomai, Solomone Funaki, Joel Hintz, Stracey Ili, Josh Kaifa, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Jason Long, Jonah Lowe, Caleb Makene, Iakopo Mapu, Elijah Martin, Lincoln McClutchie, Connor McLeod, Sam McNicol, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Brendon O'Connor, Tom Parsons, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Ollie Sapsford, Sona Taumalolo, Danny Toala, Will Tremain, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Lolagi Visinia, Sebastian Visinia, Namatahi Waa, Isaia Walker-Leawere and Brad Weber.

                https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/plenty-of-depth-in-magpies-mitre-10-cup-rugby-squad

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                  I think this is the squad by position:

                  Prop
                  Joe Apikotoa (TH)
                  Joel Hintz (TH)
                  Jason Long (LH, also hooker)
                  Pouri Rakete-Stones (LH & TH)
                  Sona Taumalolo (LH)
                  Namatahi Waa (TH)

                  Hooker
                  Jacob Devery
                  Ash Dixon
                  Kianu Kereru Symes (also prop)

                  Lock
                  Geoff Cridge (also 6)
                  Bryn Evans
                  Elijah Martin
                  Tom Parsons
                  Isaia Walker-Leawere

                  Loose forward
                  Gareth Evans (8, also 7 & 6)
                  Devan Flanders (8/6, can cover lock)
                  Solomone Funaki (7 & 6)
                  Josh Kaifa (7)
                  Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (8/6)
                  Will Tremain (7)
                  Brendon O'Connor (7 & 8 )
                  Iakopo Mapu (7, 8 )

                  Halfback
                  Folau Fakatava
                  Connor McLeod
                  Brad Weber (will be with the ABs for most of the season)

                  First five-eighth
                  Lincoln McClutchie

                  Midfielder
                  Neria Fomai (13)
                  Danny Toala (12, 15, may be used at 10)
                  Loloagi Visinia
                  Sebastian Visinia

                  Outside back
                  Mason Emerson (wing)
                  Jonah Lowe (wing, also 13)
                  Ollie Sapsford (wing, also midfield)
                  Anzelo Tuitavuki (wing)

                  Utility back
                  Kurt Baker (will probably be used at 15)
                  Stacey Ili (may be used at 10)
                  Caleb Makene (may be used at 10)
                  Sam McNicol

                  Great looking squad, but ... I'm not happy with only one specialist first five-eighth in the team. They must have known for quite a while that Falcon wouldn't be available. Was it really that hard to find one more 10? We have Latrell Smiler-Ah Kiong and Jordan Thompson-Dunn for the future, and they'll probably be on standby, but it's probably too early for both of them.

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                    The Magpies 2020 Mitre 10 Cup squad is:

                    Joe Apikotoa, Kurt Baker, Geoff Cridge, Jacob Devery, Ash Dixon (captain), Mason Emerson, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Folau Fakatava, Devan Flanders, Neria Fomai, Solomone Funaki, Joel Hintz, Stracey Ili, Josh Kaifa, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Jason Long, Jonah Lowe, Caleb Makene, Iakopo Mapu, Elijah Martin, Lincoln McClutchie, Connor McLeod, Sam McNicol, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Brendon O'Connor, Tom Parsons, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Ollie Sapsford, Sona Taumalolo, Danny Toala, Will Tremain, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Lolagi Visinia, Sebastian Visinia, Namatahi Waa, Isaia Walker-Leawere and Brad Weber.

                    https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/plenty-of-depth-in-magpies-mitre-10-cup-rugby-squad

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                    @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

                    The Magpies 2020 Mitre 10 Cup squad is:

                    Joe Apikotoa, Kurt Baker, Geoff Cridge, Jacob Devery, Ash Dixon (captain), Mason Emerson, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Folau Fakatava, Devan Flanders, Neria Fomai, Solomone Funaki, Joel Hintz, Stracey Ili, Josh Kaifa, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Jason Long, Jonah Lowe, Caleb Makene, Iakopo Mapu, Elijah Martin, Lincoln McClutchie, Connor McLeod, Sam McNicol, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Brendon O'Connor, Tom Parsons, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Ollie Sapsford, Sona Taumalolo, Danny Toala, Will Tremain, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Lolagi Visinia, Sebastian Visinia, Namatahi Waa, Isaia Walker-Leawere and Brad Weber.

                    https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/plenty-of-depth-in-magpies-mitre-10-cup-rugby-squad

                    A fairly predictable squad in the end,not so sure I like the cocky attitude of the reporter,I hope the players aren't thinking they are sure things to win it.Whats everyones predicted best 23???

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                      @Stargazer said in Magpies 2020:

                      The Magpies 2020 Mitre 10 Cup squad is:

                      Joe Apikotoa, Kurt Baker, Geoff Cridge, Jacob Devery, Ash Dixon (captain), Mason Emerson, Bryn Evans, Gareth Evans, Folau Fakatava, Devan Flanders, Neria Fomai, Solomone Funaki, Joel Hintz, Stracey Ili, Josh Kaifa, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Jason Long, Jonah Lowe, Caleb Makene, Iakopo Mapu, Elijah Martin, Lincoln McClutchie, Connor McLeod, Sam McNicol, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Brendon O'Connor, Tom Parsons, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Ollie Sapsford, Sona Taumalolo, Danny Toala, Will Tremain, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Lolagi Visinia, Sebastian Visinia, Namatahi Waa, Isaia Walker-Leawere and Brad Weber.

                      https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/plenty-of-depth-in-magpies-mitre-10-cup-rugby-squad

                      A fairly predictable squad in the end,not so sure I like the cocky attitude of the reporter,I hope the players aren't thinking they are sure things to win it.Whats everyones predicted best 23???

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                      @kiwimatrix I think we've got one of the best Magpies squads of the last few years, with a good combo of experience and youthful talent, and some depth. One of the best, on paper. You always have to wait and see how players perform on the day. I do hope everyone will underestimate the Magpies again, just like last year. Nobody gave us a chance of a semifinals spot in 2019, and we convincingly reached the final. I can see us do that again, but only if we're being spared major injuries. I still have nightmares of that year we had approx 16 players in the injury ward (was it 2017?).

                      I think a good 23 would be (assuming everyone is fit and healthy):

                      1 Sona Taumalolo (depending on what form he's in, it's hard to know without having seen him play recently)
                      2 Ash Dixon
                      3 Pouri Rakete-Stones
                      4 Bryn Evans
                      5 Isaia Walker-Leawere
                      6 Devan Flanders
                      7 Gareth Evans
                      8 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u
                      9 Brad Weber / Folau Fakatava (Brad only available in round 1?)
                      10 Lincoln McClutchie
                      11 Lolagi Visinia (or Sam McNicol, if Lolagi plays in the midfield)
                      12 Danny Toala
                      13 Neria Fomai / Lolagi Visinia
                      14 Jonah Lowe
                      15 Kurt Baker (I'm far from convinced, but as an AB7s player, he's likely to get the start, I guess)

                      16 Kianu Kereru-Symes
                      17 Jason Long
                      18 Joe Apikotoa or Joel Hintz
                      19 Tom Parsons or Geoff Cridge
                      20 Brendon O'Connor
                      21 Folau Fakatava / Connor McLeod
                      22 Caleb Makene (covers 10 and fullback)
                      23 Sam McNicol (covers wing and midfield) / Neria Fomai if Lolagi Visinia start at 13

                      The line-up for the first game against Southland may be different though, considering some SR players have just returned, Bryn Evans has only just joined the squad, Taumalolo hasn't played for a while, O'Connor same same (did he play club rugby at all?) and there are some question marks about the fitness of players such as Gareth Evans, Danny Toala (got injured in club final) and Sam McNicol. Also, are Kereru-Symes and Lolagi Visinia injured; they weren't in the line-up for the PS game against Auckland?

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                        @kiwimatrix I think we've got one of the best Magpies squads of the last few years, with a good combo of experience and youthful talent, and some depth. One of the best, on paper. You always have to wait and see how players perform on the day. I do hope everyone will underestimate the Magpies again, just like last year. Nobody gave us a chance of a semifinals spot in 2019, and we convincingly reached the final. I can see us do that again, but only if we're being spared major injuries. I still have nightmares of that year we had approx 16 players in the injury ward (was it 2017?).

                        I think a good 23 would be (assuming everyone is fit and healthy):

                        1 Sona Taumalolo (depending on what form he's in, it's hard to know without having seen him play recently)
                        2 Ash Dixon
                        3 Pouri Rakete-Stones
                        4 Bryn Evans
                        5 Isaia Walker-Leawere
                        6 Devan Flanders
                        7 Gareth Evans
                        8 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u
                        9 Brad Weber / Folau Fakatava (Brad only available in round 1?)
                        10 Lincoln McClutchie
                        11 Lolagi Visinia (or Sam McNicol, if Lolagi plays in the midfield)
                        12 Danny Toala
                        13 Neria Fomai / Lolagi Visinia
                        14 Jonah Lowe
                        15 Kurt Baker (I'm far from convinced, but as an AB7s player, he's likely to get the start, I guess)

                        16 Kianu Kereru-Symes
                        17 Jason Long
                        18 Joe Apikotoa or Joel Hintz
                        19 Tom Parsons or Geoff Cridge
                        20 Brendon O'Connor
                        21 Folau Fakatava / Connor McLeod
                        22 Caleb Makene (covers 10 and fullback)
                        23 Sam McNicol (covers wing and midfield) / Neria Fomai if Lolagi Visinia start at 13

                        The line-up for the first game against Southland may be different though, considering some SR players have just returned, Bryn Evans has only just joined the squad, Taumalolo hasn't played for a while, O'Connor same same (did he play club rugby at all?) and there are some question marks about the fitness of players such as Gareth Evans, Danny Toala (got injured in club final) and Sam McNicol. Also, are Kereru-Symes and Lolagi Visinia injured; they weren't in the line-up for the PS game against Auckland?

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                        @Stargazer Surely this is last chance for McNicol if he doesn't last most of this season they have to cut him loose.

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                          @stargazer Remind me please, what has happened to Tiaan Falcon?

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                            @stargazer Remind me please, what has happened to Tiaan Falcon?

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                            @Higgins He's signed with Toyota Verblitz in Japan; same club as Allardice. Coach: Steve Hansen.

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                              @Higgins He's signed with Toyota Verblitz in Japan; same club as Allardice. Coach: Steve Hansen.

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                              @Stargazer I watched Ihia West playing for La Rochelle this morning, he went OK, even scoring a try.

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                                @Stargazer I watched Ihia West playing for La Rochelle this morning, he went OK, even scoring a try.

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                                @Higgins Ihaia has done very well overthere, the past few years. Good on him! Falcon is leaving too soon, but maybe his injury history has something to do with that. Or he'll give SR another shot after a year or two.

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                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/300105768/sunday-profile-patience-pays-dividends-for-magpies-loose-forward-marino-mikaeletuu

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                                      Injury update in the article below.

                                      ...Hurricanes midfielder Danny Toala has been named on the bench after returning from a shoulder injury collected in the Maddison Trophy final.

                                      Ozich said former All Black lock Bryn Evans and former Tonga prop Sona Taumalolo are both available for selection and their opportunities will come. Chiefs midfield back Sam McNicol is expected to be available around rounds four and five and prop Namatahi Waa is also expected to return in the later rounds after recovering from appendix surgery.


                                      It also sounds like Lolagi Visinia - who already knew the coaches before signing with the HBRU - has only been signed for one season, but wants to stay longer.

                                      The 27-year-old, who is also a former Blues Super player, is being coached by Mark Ozich and Josh Syms who were his Kelston Boys' High School 1st XV coaches in 2009 and '10. Magpies assistant coach Syms was also his Auckland under-16 team coach.

                                      "My goal is to get as many minutes as I can and be consistent week in and week out. Hopefully I can do enough to get re-signed for next year," Visinia said.

                                      https://cdn.hbapp.co.nz/news/visinia-earns-starting-role-for-magpies-against-steelers

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                                        @Number-10 said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:

                                        Just spoken to Sam McNicol, hopes to be available next week.

                                        That's good to hear! I assume he'll makes his comeback via the bench. I wonder where they're going to play him and who'll lose his spot in the 23. Sapsford?

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                                          Most interesting bit from this article on Hawke's Bay app:

                                          Inspirational Hawke's Bay Magpies rugby captain Ash Dixon is unsure whether this season will be his last with the team.

                                          But the 32-year-old Maori All Black and Highlanders hooker agreed if the Magpies could capture the Ranfurly Shield in his 100th appearance for the team in tomorrow's challenge against Otago in Dunedin and go on to win the Mitre 10 Cup Championship it would make a memorable final season.

                                          "One of the reasons I came back this season was to try and get my 100 ...

                                          If this is Ash Dixon's last season, I hope the HBRU makes an attempt to get Tyrone Thompson back to the Bay.

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