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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

    Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

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    @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

    Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

    Fucken tear to my eye!

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      Can't really argue with forward selections.

      Aumua needs to learn to throw.

      Lomax and Hodgman form justifes third stringer selection.

      Tyro locks reflect injuries. From full deck would have been Barrett and Parkinson for me.

      Loosies reflect focus on go forward. Hunt/Boshier/Christie lost out from that decision.

      In backs all the usual suspects.

      Thought PUV might have done enough. I prefer ALB 12/Goodhue 13 to vice versa.

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      @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      Can't really argue with forward selections.

      Aumua needs to learn to throw.

      Lomax and Hodgman form justifes third stringer selection.

      Tyro locks reflect injuries. From full deck would have been Barrett and Parkinson for me.

      Loosies reflect focus on go forward. Hunt/Boshier/Christie lost out from that decision.

      In backs all the usual suspects.

      Thought PUV might have done enough. I prefer ALB 12/Goodhue 13 to vice versa.

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12362043&&ref=recommended

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        @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        Can't really argue with forward selections.

        Aumua needs to learn to throw.

        Lomax and Hodgman form justifes third stringer selection.

        Tyro locks reflect injuries. From full deck would have been Barrett and Parkinson for me.

        Loosies reflect focus on go forward. Hunt/Boshier/Christie lost out from that decision.

        In backs all the usual suspects.

        Thought PUV might have done enough. I prefer ALB 12/Goodhue 13 to vice versa.

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12362043&&ref=recommended

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        Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

        Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

        Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

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        • sparkyS sparky

          Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

          Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

          Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

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          @sparky Hodgman over Tuinukuafe? Why's that?

          Goodhue to start and Karl on the bench and I'm convinced.

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            @sparky Hodgman over Tuinukuafe? Why's that?

            Goodhue to start and Karl on the bench and I'm convinced.

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            @Bones Hodgman Vs Karl T. Not much in that but slightly prefer the taller Hodgman for lineout lifting and carrying.

            Reiko Ioane Vs Jack Goodhue. Not much in that either. Ioane more of an attacking threat this year, but possibly no longer has the top-end speed for a starting 11. Goodhue better at 13 than 12. Both will feature, I'm sure.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @sparky Hodgman over Tuinukuafe? Why's that?

              Goodhue to start and Karl on the bench and I'm convinced.

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              @Bones I'd probably go Hodgman over Tu'inukuafe as well if it's for a bench spot. If it was for a starting spot I'd go for Tu'inukuafe but Hodgman is better around the field and his scrummaging is more than good enough.

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                @Bones Hodgman Vs Karl T. Not much in that but slightly prefer the taller Hodgman for lineout lifting and carrying.

                Reiko Ioane Vs Jack Goodhue. Not much in that either. Ioane more of an attacking threat this year, but possibly no longer has the top-end speed for a starting 11. Goodhue better at 13 than 12. Both will feature, I'm sure.

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                @sparky yeah definitely at 13. He's been great for the ABs there. Fairly ordinary at twelve like most others so at least we could get the best out of one of them...

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  @Bones Hodgman Vs Karl T. Not much in that but slightly prefer the taller Hodgman for lineout lifting and carrying.

                  Reiko Ioane Vs Jack Goodhue. Not much in that either. Ioane more of an attacking threat this year, but possibly no longer has the top-end speed for a starting 11. Goodhue better at 13 than 12. Both will feature, I'm sure.

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                  @sparky Ioane only burst onto the scene 3-4 years ago. He must be in his mid-20s. Yet you speak of him like he's 30 years plus and/or coming back from a knee injury.

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                    @Bones Hodgman Vs Karl T. Not much in that but slightly prefer the taller Hodgman for lineout lifting and carrying.

                    Reiko Ioane Vs Jack Goodhue. Not much in that either. Ioane more of an attacking threat this year, but possibly no longer has the top-end speed for a starting 11. Goodhue better at 13 than 12. Both will feature, I'm sure.

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                    @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Bones Hodgman Vs Karl T. Not much in that but slightly prefer the taller Hodgman for lineout lifting and carrying.

                    Reiko Ioane Vs Jack Goodhue. Not much in that either. Ioane more of an attacking threat this year, but possibly no longer has the top-end speed for a starting 11. Goodhue better at 13 than 12. Both will feature, I'm sure.

                    Goodhue is best AB 13 I’ve seen for a long time at running good lines and setting up his wings. For now prefer Roane on wing. No way at 23 he’s lost the X factor. Spoilt for choice for other wing.

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                    • sharkS shark

                      @sparky Ioane only burst onto the scene 3-4 years ago. He must be in his mid-20s. Yet you speak of him like he's 30 years plus and/or coming back from a knee injury.

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                      @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @sparky Ioane only burst onto the scene 3-4 years ago. He must be in his mid-20s. Yet you speak of him like he's 30 years plus and/or coming back from a knee injury.

                      He is 23. Played Centre at School/Under 20. Started pro-Rugby on the Wing. Was oustanding in 2017. Had some calf/hamstring problems in 2018 and 2019. Now says he prefers 13. Looking good there.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

                        Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

                        Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

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                        @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

                        Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

                        Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

                        Nothing really screams Fozzie about this squad, I am still of the opinion he will be very conservative with first match
                        Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Savea, A. Smith, Mo'unga, Bridge, ALB, Goodhue, Reece, B. Barrett
                        Coles, Hodgman, Ofa , Strange. Sotutu, TJP, J. Barrett, R. Iaone

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                          Hard to get excited about this. I mean you need opposition.

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                          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                            Hard to get excited about this. I mean you need opposition.

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                            @Billy-Tell said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Hard to get excited about this. I mean you need opposition.

                            Perhaps we can now play “the Real ABs” vs “those that didn’t make it”

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                              @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

                              Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

                              Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

                              Nothing really screams Fozzie about this squad, I am still of the opinion he will be very conservative with first match
                              Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Savea, A. Smith, Mo'unga, Bridge, ALB, Goodhue, Reece, B. Barrett
                              Coles, Hodgman, Ofa , Strange. Sotutu, TJP, J. Barrett, R. Iaone

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                              @DMX said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

                              Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

                              Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

                              Nothing really screams Fozzie about this squad, I am still of the opinion he will be very conservative with first match
                              Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Savea, A. Smith, Mo'unga, Bridge, ALB, Goodhue, Reece, B. Barrett
                              Coles, Hodgman, Ofa , Strange. Sotutu, TJP, J. Barrett, R. Iaone

                              New blood will be introduced via the bench or through injury as usual.
                              The locks will rotate on the pine and I can see Savea playing cover while the likes of Sotutu are given a start.
                              Lomax and Hodgman will get some bench roles too.
                              The starting changes should be ditching Bridge and Reece (who have been fizzers IMO) and establishing Clarke and Jordan.

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                                @DMX said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

                                Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

                                Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

                                Nothing really screams Fozzie about this squad, I am still of the opinion he will be very conservative with first match
                                Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Savea, A. Smith, Mo'unga, Bridge, ALB, Goodhue, Reece, B. Barrett
                                Coles, Hodgman, Ofa , Strange. Sotutu, TJP, J. Barrett, R. Iaone

                                New blood will be introduced via the bench or through injury as usual.
                                The locks will rotate on the pine and I can see Savea playing cover while the likes of Sotutu are given a start.
                                Lomax and Hodgman will get some bench roles too.
                                The starting changes should be ditching Bridge and Reece (who have been fizzers IMO) and establishing Clarke and Jordan.

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                                @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                The starting changes should be ditching Bridge and Reece (who have been fizzers IMO) and establishing Clarke and Jordan.

                                Yes to Bridge being dumped - I watched him again in the Ireland game last year. He's the ultimate low risk boring winger - would go well in the NH. Highish work rate, but can't beat people and runs into contact way too much.

                                Reece, on the other hand, is electric going forward. I can see a game plan with space for him.

                                Clarke is a talent, can't wait to see him go at the top level.

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                                  @Crucial said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  The starting changes should be ditching Bridge and Reece (who have been fizzers IMO) and establishing Clarke and Jordan.

                                  Yes to Bridge being dumped - I watched him again in the Ireland game last year. He's the ultimate low risk boring winger - would go well in the NH. Highish work rate, but can't beat people and runs into contact way too much.

                                  Reece, on the other hand, is electric going forward. I can see a game plan with space for him.

                                  Clarke is a talent, can't wait to see him go at the top level.

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                                  @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

                                  I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

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                                    @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

                                    I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

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                                    @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

                                    I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

                                    Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

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                                      @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

                                      I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

                                      Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

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                                      @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

                                      I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

                                      Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

                                      So he'll get the odd Bledisloe but nothing else.

                                      My preferred back three are Barrett (the good one), Rieko and Clarke, with Goodhue and ALB in the midfield.

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                                        Reiko should be given opportunities as a midfielder too. It has been a while since we had a good centre/wing option ala Kahui.
                                        When you have 10s that can play 15 well, a centre/wing is a great option in the 23. Helps the bench makeup by either having an impact wing or a midfield rather than an all rounder.

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                                          @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

                                          I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

                                          Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

                                          So he'll get the odd Bledisloe but nothing else.

                                          My preferred back three are Barrett (the good one), Rieko and Clarke, with Goodhue and ALB in the midfield.

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                                          @Nepia said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @Gunner said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @nzzp @Crucial Bridge = Ralph v 2.0

                                          I'll be pissed if they go with the safe boring option. Clarke should be the starter every day of the week ending in a y.

                                          Well seeing as tests are often on a Satdee or a Sundee I can see them going with Bridge on occasions.

                                          So he'll get the odd Bledisloe but nothing else.

                                          My preferred back three are Barrett (the good one), Rieko and Clarke, with Goodhue and ALB in the midfield.

                                          You need to be more specific. The one who won Player of the Year but whose abilities may be waning or the one who used to be a bit shit but now seems really good ?

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