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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • SiamS Siam

    @Stargazer it's cool mate, Bridge is bloody hard to get excited about though, eh? I'd have your back if they dissed young Will, for for sure !🙂

    ( and you do realise you bagged out the actual Caleb Ralph too, quite fiercely😉, who by all accounts is a sterling fellow )

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    @Siam said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Stargazer it's cool mate, Bridge is bloody hard to get excited about, eh? I'd have your back if they dissed young Will, though !🙂

    Well he's no Dagg when it comes to facials, could do better.

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      Second, couldn't agree more. Clarke and Jordan could not have been more dynamic the other day when compared to what we've had to our up with Reece and Carthorse Mark II.

      What a shit way to talk about a player.

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      @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      Second, couldn't agree more. Clarke and Jordan could not have been more dynamic the other day when compared to what we've had to our up with Reece and Carthorse Mark II.

      What a shit way to talk about a player.

      Would you prefer if I called him "treadmill"?

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @Bones This is my first reaction on many, many posts about Bridge in several threads over the past few months. If there was the same diarrhoea of posts about another player, of another team, there would have been plenty of people who'd have responded without getting accused of bias.

        I've had enough.

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        @Stargazer said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

        @Bones This is my first reaction on many, many posts about Bridge in several threads over the past few months. If there was the same diarrhoea of posts about another player, of another team, there would have been plenty of people who'd have responded without getting accused of bias.

        I've had enough.

        Thanks for coming to Akira's rescue all those times, BTW

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Bones No, that has nothing to do with it and you know it. And I'm sick of people responding to every comment I make with "Crusaders this, Crusaders that". Especially you.

          If I can't even comment on the Fern anymore without getting responses like that all the time, I may as well leave.

          I just hate the way some people on the Fern talk about some players, especially the name-calling, regardless of which team he plays for.

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          @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @Bones This is my first reaction on many, many posts about Bridge in several threads over the past few months. If there was the same diarrhoea of posts about another player, of another team, there would have been plenty of people who'd have responded without getting accused of bias.

            I've had enough.

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            @Stargazer Bridge is an amazing player and his style suits test rugby where one dropped ball, one time out of position loses the game. He just reads the game so well. For some reason, the Fern gets a frontal lobotomy about some players and are proven wrong again and again. Why you would get upset over it?

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              Ardie at 8? Yuck

              Yep. That's particularly concerning when we've got two big, quick and skilful guys who are specialists in that position in the squad.

              He's a fucking 7.

              Talk about ignoring lessons

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              @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              Ardie at 8? Yuck

              Yep. That's particularly concerning when we've got two big, quick and skilful guys who are specialists in that position in the squad.

              He's a fucking 7.

              Talk about ignoring lessons

              And the premier 7 at that.

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              • sharkS shark

                @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                Ardie at 8? Yuck

                Yep. That's particularly concerning when we've got two big, quick and skilful guys who are specialists in that position in the squad.

                He's a fucking 7.

                Talk about ignoring lessons

                And the premier 7 at that.

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                @shark only fern are ignoring lessons, ABs coaches are all talking specialist and Ardie as a7 who can play 8

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                • K kev

                  @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

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                  @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                  @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                  No one on this forum has said that Bridge is a shit player. He's decent under the high ball, runs decent support lines, runs fast enough in a straight line and is generally a low error player. He'd probably be a great right wing. The problem is that he plays on the left and he's currently keeping out two of the more dynamic and powerful ball runners in NZ rugby at time when we are lacking a bit in dynamic and powerful runners in NZ rugby. Remember all those breaks and extra yards Bridge made last year against England when we couldn't get any go forward anywhere else on the park? Yeah, me neither.

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                  • O Old Samurai Jack

                    @Stargazer Bridge is an amazing player and his style suits test rugby where one dropped ball, one time out of position loses the game. He just reads the game so well. For some reason, the Fern gets a frontal lobotomy about some players and are proven wrong again and again. Why you would get upset over it?

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                    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    @Stargazer Bridge is an amazing player and his style suits test rugby where one dropped ball, one time out of position loses the game. He just reads the game so well. For some reason, the Fern gets a frontal lobotomy about some players and are proven wrong again and again. Why you would get upset over it?

                    Yeah and that's why he should switch to the right wing.

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                      @shark only fern are ignoring lessons, ABs coaches are all talking specialist and Ardie as a7 who can play 8

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                      @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      @shark only fern are ignoring lessons, ABs coaches are all talking specialist and Ardie as a7 who can play 8

                      That makes zero sense.

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                      • sharkS shark

                        @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @shark only fern are ignoring lessons, ABs coaches are all talking specialist and Ardie as a7 who can play 8

                        That makes zero sense.

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                        @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @shark only fern are ignoring lessons, ABs coaches are all talking specialist and Ardie as a7 who can play 8

                        That makes zero sense.

                        Sorry that should have been at the message you were quoting.

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                        • J junior

                          @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                          No one on this forum has said that Bridge is a shit player. He's decent under the high ball, runs decent support lines, runs fast enough in a straight line and is generally a low error player. He'd probably be a great right wing. The problem is that he plays on the left and he's currently keeping out two of the more dynamic and powerful ball runners in NZ rugby at time when we are lacking a bit in dynamic and powerful runners in NZ rugby. Remember all those breaks and extra yards Bridge made last year against England when we couldn't get any go forward anywhere else on the park? Yeah, me neither.

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Ardie at 8? Yuck

                            Yep. That's particularly concerning when we've got two big, quick and skilful guys who are specialists in that position in the squad.

                            He's a fucking 7.

                            Talk about ignoring lessons

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                            @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            @mariner4life said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                            Ardie at 8? Yuck

                            Yep. That's particularly concerning when we've got two big, quick and skilful guys who are specialists in that position in the squad.

                            He's a fucking 7.

                            Talk about ignoring lessons

                            ABs coaches see him as a 7 who plays 8, and are pushing the specialists are important line. So I think it's the fern ignoring lessons, not the coaches

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                              @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                              No one on this forum has said that Bridge is a shit player. He's decent under the high ball, runs decent support lines, runs fast enough in a straight line and is generally a low error player. He'd probably be a great right wing. The problem is that he plays on the left and he's currently keeping out two of the more dynamic and powerful ball runners in NZ rugby at time when we are lacking a bit in dynamic and powerful runners in NZ rugby. Remember all those breaks and extra yards Bridge made last year against England when we couldn't get any go forward anywhere else on the park? Yeah, me neither.

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                              @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                              No one on this forum has said that Bridge is a shit player. He's decent under the high ball, runs decent support lines, runs fast enough in a straight line and is generally a low error player. He'd probably be a great right wing. The problem is that he plays on the left and he's currently keeping out two of the more dynamic and powerful ball runners in NZ rugby at time when we are lacking a bit in dynamic and powerful runners in NZ rugby. Remember all those breaks and extra yards Bridge made last year against England when we couldn't get any go forward anywhere else on the park? Yeah, me neither.

                              Remember all those breaks and extra yards any All black made? Bit tough when your pack is scuttling backwards

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                                @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                                No one on this forum has said that Bridge is a shit player. He's decent under the high ball, runs decent support lines, runs fast enough in a straight line and is generally a low error player. He'd probably be a great right wing. The problem is that he plays on the left and he's currently keeping out two of the more dynamic and powerful ball runners in NZ rugby at time when we are lacking a bit in dynamic and powerful runners in NZ rugby. Remember all those breaks and extra yards Bridge made last year against England when we couldn't get any go forward anywhere else on the park? Yeah, me neither.

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                                @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                                No one on this forum has said that Bridge is a shit player. He's decent under the high ball, runs decent support lines, runs fast enough in a straight line and is generally a low error player. He'd probably be a great right wing. The problem is that he plays on the left and he's currently keeping out two of the more dynamic and powerful ball runners in NZ rugby at time when we are lacking a bit in dynamic and powerful runners in NZ rugby. Remember all those breaks and extra yards Bridge made last year against England when we couldn't get any go forward anywhere else on the park? Yeah, me neither.

                                Garbage. Bridge is CONSTANTLY roasted on TSF and labelled a boring 'skinny white boy' and now 'safe white boy'.

                                He won't keep anyone out if their form and pressure warrants usurping him. Clarke may be in that position.

                                As for it being Bridges' fault we didn't put England under pressure, well, this is a helluva thing to put on a winger when the rest of the team is playing like a bag of assholes.

                                A far better comparison for Bridge as opposed to Caleb Ralph, is Doug Howlett. Both quick, both relatively safe players, great finishers and both can cover fullback.

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                                • K kev

                                  @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

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                                  @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  @Stargazer There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                                  Yes cos if the history of Super Rugby has taught us anything it's that Crusaders have a production line of world class wingers and the Blues really struggle with producing wingers....

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    @shark only fern are ignoring lessons, ABs coaches are all talking specialist and Ardie as a7 who can play 8

                                    That makes zero sense.

                                    Sorry that should have been at the message you were quoting.

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                                    @Machpants I mean, what do you mean about the Fern not having learned lessons and how does that relate to poeple saying Ardie is a 7?

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                                    • O Old Samurai Jack

                                      @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                                      No one on this forum has said that Bridge is a shit player. He's decent under the high ball, runs decent support lines, runs fast enough in a straight line and is generally a low error player. He'd probably be a great right wing. The problem is that he plays on the left and he's currently keeping out two of the more dynamic and powerful ball runners in NZ rugby at time when we are lacking a bit in dynamic and powerful runners in NZ rugby. Remember all those breaks and extra yards Bridge made last year against England when we couldn't get any go forward anywhere else on the park? Yeah, me neither.

                                      Remember all those breaks and extra yards any All black made? Bit tough when your pack is scuttling backwards

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                                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                      @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                                      No one on this forum has said that Bridge is a shit player. He's decent under the high ball, runs decent support lines, runs fast enough in a straight line and is generally a low error player. He'd probably be a great right wing. The problem is that he plays on the left and he's currently keeping out two of the more dynamic and powerful ball runners in NZ rugby at time when we are lacking a bit in dynamic and powerful runners in NZ rugby. Remember all those breaks and extra yards Bridge made last year against England when we couldn't get any go forward anywhere else on the park? Yeah, me neither.

                                      Remember all those breaks and extra yards any All black made? Bit tough when your pack is scuttling backwards

                                      Yeah, but that's why a guy like Clarke or Ioane is gold - they can both beat a man from a standing start and even when going backwards. Sometimes, that's all you need to then buy the rest of your team the time and space to create opportunities to score points.

                                      Yes, it's a bit harsh on Bridge because he wasn't the only one on the park who failed to go forward at all. But, unfortunately for him, he gets picked on because he's the one keeping out a couple of the few guys who can do what we sorely missed. To my mind, Reece is far and away the bigger problem but he's not the one keeping those guys out. That's why I say that Bridge should make a switch to the right wing, because he'll definitely get selected ahead of Reece (but maybe not ahead of Jordan now).

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                                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                        @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                                        No one on this forum has said that Bridge is a shit player. He's decent under the high ball, runs decent support lines, runs fast enough in a straight line and is generally a low error player. He'd probably be a great right wing. The problem is that he plays on the left and he's currently keeping out two of the more dynamic and powerful ball runners in NZ rugby at time when we are lacking a bit in dynamic and powerful runners in NZ rugby. Remember all those breaks and extra yards Bridge made last year against England when we couldn't get any go forward anywhere else on the park? Yeah, me neither.

                                        Remember all those breaks and extra yards any All black made? Bit tough when your pack is scuttling backwards

                                        Yeah, but that's why a guy like Clarke or Ioane is gold - they can both beat a man from a standing start and even when going backwards. Sometimes, that's all you need to then buy the rest of your team the time and space to create opportunities to score points.

                                        Yes, it's a bit harsh on Bridge because he wasn't the only one on the park who failed to go forward at all. But, unfortunately for him, he gets picked on because he's the one keeping out a couple of the few guys who can do what we sorely missed. To my mind, Reece is far and away the bigger problem but he's not the one keeping those guys out. That's why I say that Bridge should make a switch to the right wing, because he'll definitely get selected ahead of Reece (but maybe not ahead of Jordan now).

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                                        @junior Wing has always been competitive in the ABs. You need to be fundamentally excellent but X factor is a big plus

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                                        • sharkS shark

                                          @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @kev said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          @Stargazer I’m with you. Haven’t read any posts but presumably ragging on about how Bridge is average. Personally I think he is all class. There is a reason why the Crusaders win all the time. Their whole team does their job and their players make better decisions more often. Something other franchises can only aspire too. The Blues are repeat offenders in this regard.

                                          No one on this forum has said that Bridge is a shit player. He's decent under the high ball, runs decent support lines, runs fast enough in a straight line and is generally a low error player. He'd probably be a great right wing. The problem is that he plays on the left and he's currently keeping out two of the more dynamic and powerful ball runners in NZ rugby at time when we are lacking a bit in dynamic and powerful runners in NZ rugby. Remember all those breaks and extra yards Bridge made last year against England when we couldn't get any go forward anywhere else on the park? Yeah, me neither.

                                          Garbage. Bridge is CONSTANTLY roasted on TSF and labelled a boring 'skinny white boy' and now 'safe white boy'.

                                          He won't keep anyone out if their form and pressure warrants usurping him. Clarke may be in that position.

                                          As for it being Bridges' fault we didn't put England under pressure, well, this is a helluva thing to put on a winger when the rest of the team is playing like a bag of assholes.

                                          A far better comparison for Bridge as opposed to Caleb Ralph, is Doug Howlett. Both quick, both relatively safe players, great finishers and both can cover fullback.

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                                          @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                          Both quick, both relatively safe players, great finishers and both can cover fullback.

                                          He looks like he should be playing fullback to me. That's not going to happen at the Crusaders so we'll probably never know

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