Chiefs 2021
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@KiwiMurph said in Chiefs 2020:
Tabye Matson
What a player the big fella was. Barnstorming runner. Handed off Frank Bunce twice in one run back in the 90s'
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@Dice said in Chiefs 2020:
Watching CGW and McOnie just mentioned that Tabai Matson has been axed by the Chiefs.
There have been rumours that Matson's job was on the block. He is the main assistant coach so his salary is paid by NZR.
The Chiefs' defence wasn't good enough and too passive.
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I wonder if any team is keen to pick up a whole coaching group of failed ex-Cantabs
Mauger
Hammerteur
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I wonder if any team is keen to pick up a whole coaching group of failed ex-Cantabs
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@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:
Should I be worried that Matson is leaving just as Hammer is looking for another job?
Nah. The Chiefs will look within the franchise area if they want new assistants. McMillan is there in 2021 and likely for the longterm. Barnes could also get the axe from the current coaching group.
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@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:
Should I be worried that Matson is leaving just as Hammer is looking for another job?
If you are talking Chiefs then I am terrified! I’ve already shifted allegiance once in part to that guy. I have nowhere left to go
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@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:
Should I be worried that Matson is leaving just as Hammer is looking for another job?
Nah. The Chiefs will look within the franchise area if they want new assistants. McMillan is there in 2021 and likely for the longterm. Barnes could also get the axe from the current coaching group.
@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:
Should I be worried that Matson is leaving just as Hammer is looking for another job?
Nah. The Chiefs will look within the franchise area if they want new assistants. McMillan is there in 2021 and likely for the longterm. Barnes could also get the axe from the current coaching group.
Barnes has looked to be the weakest link all along from the outside
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@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:
Should I be worried that Matson is leaving just as Hammer is looking for another job?
If you are talking Chiefs then I am terrified! I’ve already shifted allegiance once in part to that guy. I have nowhere left to go
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David Hill has to be questioned to? He moved incredibly quickly through the ranks, straight from player to BOP and NZ U20 assistant and never had much success in any of those roles either. Clayton may look at Marty Bourke or Mike Rogers who came on as BOP assistants last year & the team improved markedly winning the comp, both come through club level then won Jock Hobbs as co-coaches.
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David Hill has to be questioned to? He moved incredibly quickly through the ranks, straight from player to BOP and NZ U20 assistant and never had much success in any of those roles either. Clayton may look at Marty Bourke or Mike Rogers who came on as BOP assistants last year & the team improved markedly winning the comp, both come through club level then won Jock Hobbs as co-coaches.
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David Hill has to be questioned to? He moved incredibly quickly through the ranks, straight from player to BOP and NZ U20 assistant and never had much success in any of those roles either. Clayton may look at Marty Bourke or Mike Rogers who came on as BOP assistants last year & the team improved markedly winning the comp, both come through club level then won Jock Hobbs as co-coaches.
@trooa said in Chiefs 2021:
David Hill has to be questioned to? He moved incredibly quickly through the ranks, straight from player to BOP and NZ U20 assistant and never had much success in any of those roles either. Clayton may look at Marty Bourke or Mike Rogers who came on as BOP assistants last year & the team improved markedly winning the comp, both come through club level then won Jock Hobbs as co-coaches.
They should all have to reapply.
Hill, in particular, sounds as dumb as a post on TV (I've heard through friends that he is a really nice guy).
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@trooa Hill is only the kicking coach, the same role I think he fills for the ABs. You could make an argument that the Chiefs general play kicking wasn't up to standard.
The assistant coach roles to fill could be defence and forwards. Kind of important.
@Bovidae Purely just kicking, I thought he was in charge of all skills? Either way, you don't look at the teams he's been involved in & see the noticeable difference he has made. Mike Rogers will definitely be a shot then if that's the roles they're after, he takes forwards/scrum & McMillan takes defence at BOP whereas Bourke is backs/attack.
NZRU/Chiefs have to take some responsibility around the overall coaching fit & contract lengths when they knew Cooper was going to finish up. Generally when you're a coach at any level, you have some sort of say on who your assistants are so that you ensure you can work well together and have similar philosophies e.g. Razor had Jase Ryan come up through the ranks with him then they hand picked O'Gara once Macdonald left. This Chiefs situation looks like Gatland had no say in who his assistants were, the year off just makes that even more of a shitshow as do you choose someone Clayton works well with or Gatland for the next 2years?
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@Bovidae Purely just kicking, I thought he was in charge of all skills? Either way, you don't look at the teams he's been involved in & see the noticeable difference he has made. Mike Rogers will definitely be a shot then if that's the roles they're after, he takes forwards/scrum & McMillan takes defence at BOP whereas Bourke is backs/attack.
NZRU/Chiefs have to take some responsibility around the overall coaching fit & contract lengths when they knew Cooper was going to finish up. Generally when you're a coach at any level, you have some sort of say on who your assistants are so that you ensure you can work well together and have similar philosophies e.g. Razor had Jase Ryan come up through the ranks with him then they hand picked O'Gara once Macdonald left. This Chiefs situation looks like Gatland had no say in who his assistants were, the year off just makes that even more of a shitshow as do you choose someone Clayton works well with or Gatland for the next 2years?
@trooa said in Chiefs 2021:
@Bovidae Purely just kicking, I thought he was in charge of all skills?
It could be kicking and skills.
Nick White is the scrum coach and Roger Randle the attack coach.
The current assistants were all appointed under Colin Cooper's tenure.
McMillan was involved with Chiefs' trainings this season so he will have an idea of what is needed within the coaching group for 2021.
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@trooa said in Chiefs 2021:
@Bovidae Purely just kicking, I thought he was in charge of all skills?
It could be kicking and skills.
Nick White is the scrum coach and Roger Randle the attack coach.
The current assistants were all appointed under Colin Cooper's tenure.
McMillan was involved with Chiefs' trainings this season so he will have an idea of what is needed within the coaching group for 2021.
@Bovidae considering the attack, all season, looked like they met in the carpark before the game
and our defensive structure was club standard
and our basic skills were shithouse
they should all get the chop
