Chiefs 2021
-
@Dice said in Chiefs 2020:
Watching CGW and McOnie just mentioned that Tabai Matson has been axed by the Chiefs.
There have been rumours that Matson's job was on the block. He is the main assistant coach so his salary is paid by NZR.
The Chiefs' defence wasn't good enough and too passive.
-
I wonder if any team is keen to pick up a whole coaching group of failed ex-Cantabs
Mauger
Hammerteur
Matson -
I wonder if any team is keen to pick up a whole coaching group of failed ex-Cantabs
Mauger
Hammerteur
Matson -
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:
Should I be worried that Matson is leaving just as Hammer is looking for another job?
Nah. The Chiefs will look within the franchise area if they want new assistants. McMillan is there in 2021 and likely for the longterm. Barnes could also get the axe from the current coaching group.
-
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:
Should I be worried that Matson is leaving just as Hammer is looking for another job?
If you are talking Chiefs then I am terrified! I’ve already shifted allegiance once in part to that guy. I have nowhere left to go
-
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:
Should I be worried that Matson is leaving just as Hammer is looking for another job?
Nah. The Chiefs will look within the franchise area if they want new assistants. McMillan is there in 2021 and likely for the longterm. Barnes could also get the axe from the current coaching group.
@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:
Should I be worried that Matson is leaving just as Hammer is looking for another job?
Nah. The Chiefs will look within the franchise area if they want new assistants. McMillan is there in 2021 and likely for the longterm. Barnes could also get the axe from the current coaching group.
Barnes has looked to be the weakest link all along from the outside
-
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:
Should I be worried that Matson is leaving just as Hammer is looking for another job?
If you are talking Chiefs then I am terrified! I’ve already shifted allegiance once in part to that guy. I have nowhere left to go
-
David Hill has to be questioned to? He moved incredibly quickly through the ranks, straight from player to BOP and NZ U20 assistant and never had much success in any of those roles either. Clayton may look at Marty Bourke or Mike Rogers who came on as BOP assistants last year & the team improved markedly winning the comp, both come through club level then won Jock Hobbs as co-coaches.
-
David Hill has to be questioned to? He moved incredibly quickly through the ranks, straight from player to BOP and NZ U20 assistant and never had much success in any of those roles either. Clayton may look at Marty Bourke or Mike Rogers who came on as BOP assistants last year & the team improved markedly winning the comp, both come through club level then won Jock Hobbs as co-coaches.
-
David Hill has to be questioned to? He moved incredibly quickly through the ranks, straight from player to BOP and NZ U20 assistant and never had much success in any of those roles either. Clayton may look at Marty Bourke or Mike Rogers who came on as BOP assistants last year & the team improved markedly winning the comp, both come through club level then won Jock Hobbs as co-coaches.
@trooa said in Chiefs 2021:
David Hill has to be questioned to? He moved incredibly quickly through the ranks, straight from player to BOP and NZ U20 assistant and never had much success in any of those roles either. Clayton may look at Marty Bourke or Mike Rogers who came on as BOP assistants last year & the team improved markedly winning the comp, both come through club level then won Jock Hobbs as co-coaches.
They should all have to reapply.
Hill, in particular, sounds as dumb as a post on TV (I've heard through friends that he is a really nice guy).
-
@trooa Hill is only the kicking coach, the same role I think he fills for the ABs. You could make an argument that the Chiefs general play kicking wasn't up to standard.
The assistant coach roles to fill could be defence and forwards. Kind of important.
@Bovidae Purely just kicking, I thought he was in charge of all skills? Either way, you don't look at the teams he's been involved in & see the noticeable difference he has made. Mike Rogers will definitely be a shot then if that's the roles they're after, he takes forwards/scrum & McMillan takes defence at BOP whereas Bourke is backs/attack.
NZRU/Chiefs have to take some responsibility around the overall coaching fit & contract lengths when they knew Cooper was going to finish up. Generally when you're a coach at any level, you have some sort of say on who your assistants are so that you ensure you can work well together and have similar philosophies e.g. Razor had Jase Ryan come up through the ranks with him then they hand picked O'Gara once Macdonald left. This Chiefs situation looks like Gatland had no say in who his assistants were, the year off just makes that even more of a shitshow as do you choose someone Clayton works well with or Gatland for the next 2years?
-
@Bovidae Purely just kicking, I thought he was in charge of all skills? Either way, you don't look at the teams he's been involved in & see the noticeable difference he has made. Mike Rogers will definitely be a shot then if that's the roles they're after, he takes forwards/scrum & McMillan takes defence at BOP whereas Bourke is backs/attack.
NZRU/Chiefs have to take some responsibility around the overall coaching fit & contract lengths when they knew Cooper was going to finish up. Generally when you're a coach at any level, you have some sort of say on who your assistants are so that you ensure you can work well together and have similar philosophies e.g. Razor had Jase Ryan come up through the ranks with him then they hand picked O'Gara once Macdonald left. This Chiefs situation looks like Gatland had no say in who his assistants were, the year off just makes that even more of a shitshow as do you choose someone Clayton works well with or Gatland for the next 2years?
@trooa said in Chiefs 2021:
@Bovidae Purely just kicking, I thought he was in charge of all skills?
It could be kicking and skills.
Nick White is the scrum coach and Roger Randle the attack coach.
The current assistants were all appointed under Colin Cooper's tenure.
McMillan was involved with Chiefs' trainings this season so he will have an idea of what is needed within the coaching group for 2021.
-
@trooa said in Chiefs 2021:
@Bovidae Purely just kicking, I thought he was in charge of all skills?
It could be kicking and skills.
Nick White is the scrum coach and Roger Randle the attack coach.
The current assistants were all appointed under Colin Cooper's tenure.
McMillan was involved with Chiefs' trainings this season so he will have an idea of what is needed within the coaching group for 2021.
@Bovidae considering the attack, all season, looked like they met in the carpark before the game
and our defensive structure was club standard
and our basic skills were shithouse
they should all get the chop
-
-
The final selection has been confirmed for the New Zealand Barbarians Under 18 Chiefs Region Camp. The camp is set to take place from Monday 28 September to Thursday 1 October at St Paul's Collegiate in Hamilton. 50 talented players have been selected from across the Chiefs region to attend the four-day camp. The camp includes the selection of nine girls within the fifty selected players, who will partake in the mixed training sessions. Chiefs Rugby Club Player Development Manager Kent Currie said the New Zealand Barbarians Chiefs Under 18 Region Camp will provide a great platform for these players to experience the Chiefs Rugby Club’s high-performance pathway. “In these uncertain times, New Zealand Rugby have done a fantastic job, sourcing the funds that will enable us to provide a wonderful development opportunity for our most talented young male and female rugby players from within the Chiefs region. Again, the camp will give us an opportunity to connect our up and coming talent with some of our past Chiefs players, who will share their knowledge by contributing to the various coaching roles at this camp.” The players attending will be coached by several leading coaches from within the Chiefs region.New Zealand Barbarians Under 18 Chiefs Region Camp:
Luke Ale (Hamilton Boys High School)
Juvina Auva'a (Rosehill College)
Josh Bartlett (Tauranga Boys College)
Klee Begbie (University of Waikato)
Dayna Bidois (Rotorua Boys High School)
Aaliyah Brown (Manurewa High School)
Westyn Cobb (Hamilton Boys High School)
Kusitino Drauna (New Plymouth Boys High School)
Kini Fonua (Rotorua Boys High School)
Oliver Foote (Hamilton Boys High School)
Tyron Hilton (Hamilton Boys High School)
Noah Hotham (Hamilton Boys High School)
Jordan Hutchings (Rotorua Boys High School)
Destiny Iraia (Mount Maunganui Sports Club)
Kauvaka Kaivelata (Wesley College)
Taha Kemara (Hamilton Boys High School)
Villiami Kuli (Wesley College)
Veveni Lasaqa (Tauranga Boys College)
Perry Laurence (New Plymouth Boys High School)
Maximus Lestro (Hamilton Boys High School)
Heath MacEwan (Hamilton Boys High School)
Tyler McNutt (Hamilton Boys High School)
Havila Molia (St Paul's Collegiate)
Kiri Nolan (Hamilton Girls High School)
Manaia Nuku (Hamilton Girls High School)
Anarau Paenga Morgan (St Paul's Collegiate)
Curtis Palmer (Tauranga Boys College)
Hope Parata-Kingi (Rotoiti Rugby Club)
Ralph Sean (Hamilton Boys High School)
Reweti Levi (New Plymouth Boys High School)
Te Rama Reuben (St Kentigern's College)
Campbell Robb (St Paul's Collegiate)
Gabe Robinson (Hamilton Boys High School)
Jone Rova (New Plymouth Boys High School)
Isaac Seiuli (St John's College)
Rowan Slater (New Plymouth Boys High School)
Andrew Smith (St Peter's School, Cambridge)
Dawson Smith (St Peter's School, Cambridge)
Payton Spencer (Hamilton Boys High School)
Ben Strang (St Paul's Collegiate)
Te Hamana Te Aute (Rotorua Boys High School)
Peter Te Kahu (New Plymouth Boys High School)
Brooklyn Teki- Joyce (Rangataua Rugby Club)
Aki Tulivailala (Hamilton Boys High School)
Mason Tupaea (Hamilton Boys High School)
Quinnlan Tupou (St Peter's School, Cambridge)
SolomonaTyrell (Hamilton Boys High School)
Leititia Vaka (Wesley College)
Malachi Wrampling-Alec (St Paul's Collegiate)
Jericho Yorke (Rotorua Boys High School)The following players have been selected as standby players:
Moses McGoon (Hamilton Boys High School), Shey Retemeyer (St Peter’s School, Cambridge), Diesel Lee Jakeman (St Peter’s School, Cambridge), Dan Fereti (Hamilton Boys High School), Quinton Cotton (St Paul’s Collegiate), Jonty Short (St Peter’s School, Cambridge), Junior Toaisi (Wesley College), Adrian Wharawhara (St John’s College), Maia George (St Peter’s School, Cambridge), Dante Gardiner (Tauranga Boys College), Nusi Mafi (Wesley College), Amos Fa’aola (Hamilton Boys High School), Ryan Michie (Rosehill College), Austin Anderson (Hamilton Boys High School)
