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All Blacks Tests 2020

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  • M Machpants

    @Crucial and the governments, state govt already said they will offer incentives to sporting events

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

    @Crucial and the governments, state govt already said they will offer incentives to sporting events

    So you end up in a pissing contest to get the games.
    I dare say that if our govt paid SANZAR to host there would be an outcry of vote buying. If they haven't there's an outcry of 'why didn't you help'.
    No win situation really.
    If there was a profit element to the country of hosting then they could argue the spend (like Americas Cup) but if just for feel good factor then they would be putting themselves squarely in Judith's sights.

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      @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

      @Crucial and the governments, state govt already said they will offer incentives to sporting events

      So you end up in a pissing contest to get the games.
      I dare say that if our govt paid SANZAR to host there would be an outcry of vote buying. If they haven't there's an outcry of 'why didn't you help'.
      No win situation really.
      If there was a profit element to the country of hosting then they could argue the spend (like Americas Cup) but if just for feel good factor then they would be putting themselves squarely in Judith's sights.

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      @Crucial no garantee of crowds vs currently allowed crowds will have been a factor.

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        They will have to expand the AB squad now. Good news for guys like Josh Ioane etc.

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          and confirmed, so early Nov, hopefully NPC teams keep thier ABs for at least 4 rounds (3/4th October)

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300104831/rugby-championship-to-be-hosted-in-australia-as-new-zealand-misses-out

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            and confirmed, so early Nov, hopefully NPC teams keep thier ABs for at least 4 rounds (3/4th October)

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300104831/rugby-championship-to-be-hosted-in-australia-as-new-zealand-misses-out

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            @taniwharugby Bledisloe in early October so I doubt that will happen.

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              @taniwharugby Bledisloe in early October so I doubt that will happen.

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              @akan004 oh I missed that, I was just looking at the early November TRC dates

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                @akan004 oh I missed that, I was just looking at the early November TRC dates

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                @akan004 oh I missed that, I was just looking at the early November TRC dates

                Apparently the Bledisloe games in NZ will be most likely held on the 17th and 24th of October so you may be right, they could leave the ABs in the NPC till early October. I guess it depends on how much time Foster thinks he needs to prepare the team.

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                  I'll start with the good news:

                  Delighted that there will be ABs tests in 2020.
                  Pleased that the Bledisloe Cup and Rugby Championship are going ahead.
                  Looking forward to the AB-Boks in particular and our young players getting the chance to challenge the World Champions.

                  Disappointed:

                  How long this has taken to organise.
                  The RC is happening in NSW not NZ.
                  There are only going to be two Tests in NZ in 2020 rather than the 6 scheduled at the start of the year. This will hurt NZR revenues significantly.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    I'll start with the good news:

                    Delighted that there will be ABs tests in 2020.
                    Pleased that the Bledisloe Cup and Rugby Championship are going ahead.
                    Looking forward to the AB-Boks in particular and our young players getting the chance to challenge the World Champions.

                    Disappointed:

                    How long this has taken to organise.
                    The RC is happening in NSW not NZ.
                    There are only going to be two Tests in NZ in 2020 rather than the 6 scheduled at the start of the year. This will hurt NZR revenues significantly.

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                    I'll start with the good news:

                    Delighted that there will be ABs tests in 2020.
                    Pleased that the Bledisloe Cup and Rugby Championship are going ahead.
                    Looking forward to the AB-Boks in particularly and our young players getting the chance to challenge the World Champions.

                    Disappointed:

                    How long this has taken to organise.
                    The RC is happening in NSW not NZ.
                    There are only going to be two Tests in NZ in 2020 rather than the 6 scheduled at the start of the year. This will hurt NZR revenues significantly.

                    Not sure two games with no crowds would have bought in much less than 6 games with no crowds.

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                      I'll start with the good news:

                      Delighted that there will be ABs tests in 2020.
                      Pleased that the Bledisloe Cup and Rugby Championship are going ahead.
                      Looking forward to the AB-Boks in particularly and our young players getting the chance to challenge the World Champions.

                      Disappointed:

                      How long this has taken to organise.
                      The RC is happening in NSW not NZ.
                      There are only going to be two Tests in NZ in 2020 rather than the 6 scheduled at the start of the year. This will hurt NZR revenues significantly.

                      Not sure two games with no crowds would have bought in much less than 6 games with no crowds.

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                      @booboo said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                      I'll start with the good news:

                      Delighted that there will be ABs tests in 2020.
                      Pleased that the Bledisloe Cup and Rugby Championship are going ahead.
                      Looking forward to the AB-Boks in particularly and our young players getting the chance to challenge the World Champions.

                      Disappointed:

                      How long this has taken to organise.
                      The RC is happening in NSW not NZ.
                      There are only going to be two Tests in NZ in 2020 rather than the 6 scheduled at the start of the year. This will hurt NZR revenues significantly.

                      Not sure two games with no crowds would have bought in much less than 6 games with no crowds.

                      On the plus side less hosting expenses.

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                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                        @mariner4life NRL will be finished by then (Grand Final 25 Oct)

                        also, holy shit i am going to write myself off taht weekend!

                        24th is Cox Plate into AFL GF (with the Lions winning the flag...)
                        Then 25th is the NRL GF
                        All tied in with my birthday?

                        get the fuck in!

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                        @mariner4life AFL Grand final has just been confirmed as 7:30pm (Melbourne time) start. That means it won’t clash with Bledisloe.

                        Happy days.

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                          @sparky said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                          I'll start with the good news:

                          Delighted that there will be ABs tests in 2020.
                          Pleased that the Bledisloe Cup and Rugby Championship are going ahead.
                          Looking forward to the AB-Boks in particularly and our young players getting the chance to challenge the World Champions.

                          Disappointed:

                          How long this has taken to organise.
                          The RC is happening in NSW not NZ.
                          There are only going to be two Tests in NZ in 2020 rather than the 6 scheduled at the start of the year. This will hurt NZR revenues significantly.

                          Not sure two games with no crowds would have bought in much less than 6 games with no crowds.

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                          @booboo The Mayor of Queenstown disagrees.

                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300104978/rugby-championship-queenstown-mayor-gutted-as-plans-go-down-the-toilet

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                            Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ

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                            • M Machpants

                              Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ

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                              @Machpants said in All Blacks Tests 2020:

                              Commercial Underwriting is the winning phrase, sadly for NZ

                              Nope, is all in the fine print. Training from day three (ish) yes, but not as an entire squad...
                              Fkn stupid

                              At least this "Robinson also confirmed the staging of the Rugby Championship in Australia would not result in a notable revenue hit on New Zealand. “The difference between it being in New Zealand and Australia wasn’t significant, and it’s not a major for us,” he said. However, it was likely they would have to foot the quarantine bill for the team on its arrival back." so there's revenue sharing

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300105542/quarantine-protocols-not-sanzaar-politics-cost-us-rugby-championship-says-nz-rugby-boss

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                                And I thought we had clowns running jurisdictions in Australia.

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                                  If there wasn't going to be crowds, why do we care so much?

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                                    I genuinely don't understand why you couldn't have entire squads in their own bubble. What level of bureaucratic intransigence do you have to suggest a bunch of players who fly over together,live in the same hotel can't train together?

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                                      I genuinely don't understand why you couldn't have entire squads in their own bubble. What level of bureaucratic intransigence do you have to suggest a bunch of players who fly over together,live in the same hotel can't train together?

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                                      @antipodean yeah I agree, one big bubble and if there is one case in it, tough shit for your entire team, game over.

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                                        You should’t change your rules for anyone. It’s just stupid. Especially for players coming from South Africa and Argentina. If we lost it because we want to be a little more cautious then good call. Though I suspect Jacinda is correct - we got screwed on the politics and the money. The NZRU is running true to form - they screwed up with the arrogant way they handled the Super rugby discussion as well. They may have been right but what did they expect with a throat cutting ultimatum.

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                                          And another thing. Throwing around large economic impact studies. Give me a break. No tourism and no crowds. Where is that money coming from?

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