AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?
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@nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
Loss of key players but they are full strength.
Imagine how you'd feel if you opted out, and then NZ lost the Bledisloe. The pain would be super brutal.
I'm going to sound old school here, but I think the player should be going, and it needs to be something really significant to not go. Having a young family isn't enough. These boys are paid at the level of CEO, there are obligations that come with that money. This isn't a moral question to me, it's a tradeoff. BB is the only one who may get a pass - having an incoming baby is a different beast; that's a real risk to health. But the rest - need a damn good reason to not get out and do your job.
Counter to this though is these are exceptional times and especially the enforced quarantine on your return. If my employer was sending me away during Covid for 10 weeks, I'd want to know that I could get back for certain events. Imagine if a young kid of one of the players has an accident (heaven forbid) and the player couldn't get back - or was forced to quarantine on return and missed something important. Or was allowed out early even, imagine the negative publicity.
I'm not sure I'd be forcing anyone to go right now, whether directly or indirectly (eg the massive paycuts)
These are extraordinary times. I dont think we can equate this ask with being a busy CEO in normal times.
@voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
These are extraordinary times. I dont think we can equate this ask with being a busy CEO in normal times.
I know. Further context though - the players are the revenue stream for the company. And in terms of unusual times, it's a business facing a massive revenue drop with no reserves. So without exaggerating, those international tests are make or break for NZ Rugby.
Look, it's horrible. But ultimately it's just over 2 months away from home. You can't demand it, but I think you can expect your very well paid stars to work with the business when it really really needs you.
I'm torn, but on balance would expect folk to go
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@voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
These are extraordinary times. I dont think we can equate this ask with being a busy CEO in normal times.
I know. Further context though - the players are the revenue stream for the company. And in terms of unusual times, it's a business facing a massive revenue drop with no reserves. So without exaggerating, those international tests are make or break for NZ Rugby.
Look, it's horrible. But ultimately it's just over 2 months away from home. You can't demand it, but I think you can expect your very well paid stars to work with the business when it really really needs you.
I'm torn, but on balance would expect folk to go
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I say fuck the RC. Get SA to come and do a big tour with plenty of midweek games to get them up to speed. Would be good prep for their Lions tour next year.
Lock the Bledisloe in the cupboard for another year as a middle finger to RA for trying to poach those tests.
@pukunui said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I say fuck the RC. Get SA to come and do a big tour with plenty of midweek games to get them up to speed. Would be good prep for their Lions tour next year.
Lock the Bledisloe in the cupboard for another year as a middle finger to RA for trying to poach those tests.
They'll want to do that as much as our guys want to be in Aus and cut off from family for 3 months
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@pukunui said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I say fuck the RC. Get SA to come and do a big tour with plenty of midweek games to get them up to speed. Would be good prep for their Lions tour next year.
Lock the Bledisloe in the cupboard for another year as a middle finger to RA for trying to poach those tests.
That would be ideal.
@akan004 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@pukunui said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I say fuck the RC. Get SA to come and do a big tour with plenty of midweek games to get them up to speed. Would be good prep for their Lions tour next year.
Lock the Bledisloe in the cupboard for another year as a middle finger to RA for trying to poach those tests.
That would be ideal.
For us
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@pukunui said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I say fuck the RC. Get SA to come and do a big tour with plenty of midweek games to get them up to speed. Would be good prep for their Lions tour next year.
Lock the Bledisloe in the cupboard for another year as a middle finger to RA for trying to poach those tests.
They'll want to do that as much as our guys want to be in Aus and cut off from family for 3 months
@booboo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@pukunui said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I say fuck the RC. Get SA to come and do a big tour with plenty of midweek games to get them up to speed. Would be good prep for their Lions tour next year.
Lock the Bledisloe in the cupboard for another year as a middle finger to RA for trying to poach those tests.
They'll want to do that as much as our guys want to be in Aus and cut off from family for 3 months
Yeah, will never happen.
Having said that, they are looking to spend months in Aust so spending them in NZ wouldn’t be that different. -
@booboo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@pukunui said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I say fuck the RC. Get SA to come and do a big tour with plenty of midweek games to get them up to speed. Would be good prep for their Lions tour next year.
Lock the Bledisloe in the cupboard for another year as a middle finger to RA for trying to poach those tests.
They'll want to do that as much as our guys want to be in Aus and cut off from family for 3 months
Yeah, will never happen.
Having said that, they are looking to spend months in Aust so spending them in NZ wouldn’t be that different.@pukunui said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@booboo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@pukunui said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
I say fuck the RC. Get SA to come and do a big tour with plenty of midweek games to get them up to speed. Would be good prep for their Lions tour next year.
Lock the Bledisloe in the cupboard for another year as a middle finger to RA for trying to poach those tests.
They'll want to do that as much as our guys want to be in Aus and cut off from family for 3 months
Yeah, will never happen.
Having said that, they are looking to spend months in Aust so spending them in NZ wouldn’t be that different.Reckon they'll do their best to get out of that
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@Tim said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
So who would replace them? Ioane and Black?
They could save some money on kit and Foxy can call in Brett Cameron
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I say fuck the RC. Get SA to come and do a big tour with plenty of midweek games to get them up to speed. Would be good prep for their Lions tour next year.
Lock the Bledisloe in the cupboard for another year as a middle finger to RA for trying to poach those tests.
@pukunui said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
Get SA to come and do a big tour with plenty of midweek games to get them up to speed. Would be good prep for their Lions tour next year.
Wouldn't that be bloody great. Use the Covid thing to put together an old-style rugby tour to keep the fans happy.
Worked for the Nth-Sth game and, if the finances can be worked out, could be a real win-win for Sth Africa and NZ Rugby.
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The Prime Minister caves in. I hope she and all future NZ PMs realise they ain't as important as the All Blacks.
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1305586453963890688?s=20
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The Prime Minister caves in. I hope she and all future NZ PMs realise they ain't as important as the All Blacks.
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1305586453963890688?s=20
@sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
The Prime Minister caves in. I hope she and all future NZ PMs realise they ain't as important as the All Blacks.
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1305586453963890688?s=20
Mark Robinson 2 JA 0. Amazing.
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@sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
The Prime Minister caves in. I hope she and all future NZ PMs realise they ain't as important as the All Blacks.
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1305586453963890688?s=20
Mark Robinson 2 JA 0. Amazing.
@pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
The Prime Minister caves in. I hope she and all future NZ PMs realise they ain't as important as the All Blacks.
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1305586453963890688?s=20
Mark Robinson 2 JA 0. Amazing.
and avoidable if you don't throw out a 'SANZAAR politics' line. After all the heat on the border, keeping it secure is reasonable. And now a change in heart.
What no one is talking about is that any case of Covid in any touring party could scupper any tour at any time. We are in a super high consequence situation - even post quarantine, the teams are still at risk, albeit a low risk.
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@sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
The Prime Minister caves in. I hope she and all future NZ PMs realise they ain't as important as the All Blacks.
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1305586453963890688?s=20
Mark Robinson 2 JA 0. Amazing.
@pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
The Prime Minister caves in. I hope she and all future NZ PMs realise they ain't as important as the All Blacks.
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1305586453963890688?s=20
Mark Robinson 2 JA 0. Amazing.
What? JA said straight away that the quarantine requirements for Ozzie were going to be much less than SA/Arg and all their NH players. isolation 3 days, test, then traing. As good as 2 weeks prior to tests, same as we’ll get in Oz - no whinging from wallabies now, I hope
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@sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
The Prime Minister caves in. I hope she and all future NZ PMs realise they ain't as important as the All Blacks.
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1305586453963890688?s=20
Mark Robinson 2 JA 0. Amazing.
@pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
@sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:
The Prime Minister caves in. I hope she and all future NZ PMs realise they ain't as important as the All Blacks.
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1305586453963890688?s=20
Mark Robinson 2 JA 0. Amazing.
Im not sure Mark Robinson can claim any sort of victory.
The 2021 Super rugby negotiations have been a disaster.
The RC has moved to Australia and a couple of weeks out from the proposed, but not agreed to yet, date the Wallabies are threatening to not come to NZ.He should be grateful he is getting any help from the government because his job is probably more at risk over this than Jacinda’s.
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The squad stuff has got mixed in with the test thread, but this belongs here. Common sense stuff from Foster, a start!
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From the above article:
Foster confirmed on a zoom call with New Zealand reporters on Tuesday he’ll likely use the full Sanzaar allotment of 46 players for the championship, partly because of the condensed nature of the programme and partly because border restrictions make flying in replacement players all but impossible.
Foster currently has 35 players in his squad to assemble for the opening two Bledisloe Cup tests against the Wallabies
So that's 11 more players not playing Mitre 10 Cup. It will be interesting to see who'll be added to the squad.
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From the above article:
Foster confirmed on a zoom call with New Zealand reporters on Tuesday he’ll likely use the full Sanzaar allotment of 46 players for the championship, partly because of the condensed nature of the programme and partly because border restrictions make flying in replacement players all but impossible.
Foster currently has 35 players in his squad to assemble for the opening two Bledisloe Cup tests against the Wallabies
So that's 11 more players not playing Mitre 10 Cup. It will be interesting to see who'll be added to the squad.
@Stargazer 12 since we have to replace Ennor too.
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@Tim Ha ha! And who can blame them for not wanting to go.
Can the RC and let's have the strongest NPC we will see in decades.
