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  • scribeS scribe

    @Chris-B amazing. Did you see the look on Dumoulin and Van Aert’s faces as they watched that unfold?

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    @scribe

    Yep, it was car crash tv for them.

    Absolutely remarkable performance from Pojacar.

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      @Chris-B amazing. Did you see the look on Dumoulin and Van Aert’s faces as they watched that unfold?

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      @scribe I saw their faces at the end when they were consoling Roglic.

      It looked like a funeral!

      When Roglic crossed the line he looked like Richie McCaw in 2011. White as a sheet - given everything, but for him it wasn't enough.

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      • M Machpants

        TJV were to conservative on the mountain and didn't ram home their advantage, came back to haunt them. Amazing come from behind victory. Are we seeing an era of one off young winners now?

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        @Machpants said in Road Cycling:

        TJV were to conservative on the mountain and didn't ram home their advantage, came back to haunt them. Amazing come from behind victory. Are we seeing an era of one off young winners now?

        I did keep thinking that they were resting on their laurels a wee bit and didn't pick a mountain stage to really have a crack at putting more time on Pog.
        It may not have worked but they left the door open with what they did.

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          https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/official-documents/2018-uci-road-world-championships/2020/20200917-imol-me-entries.pdf

          Here's the list of entrants for the Men's World Champs later this week (the Road Race is on Sunday).

          There will be an interesting dynamic in the Slovenian team room! 🙂

          Not sure what the maximum number of riders allowed on a countries' team is - different countries qualify for different numbers of riders - but, not everyone listed will start. E.g. NZ's team is planned to be George, Patty Bevin, Dion Smith and Finn Fisher-Black. James Fouche is the reserve.

          George says,

          “I’ve been nursing myself here with a few injuries and things like that and I’m on my arse in terms of form but I’ve got a week to pull up so it could go either way,” .

          “I’ll give it a nudge but it’s not that I’m coming full of confidence like I was a month ago, before I had to drag myself around France for three weeks with the [rib] problem.

          “It’s sort of out of my hands now, I just have to recover and if I recover enough then I’ll probably be quite OK and if I don’t then it’ll be a great learning curve heading into Tokyo [2021].

          It sounds like it's planned that he'll ride the Vuelta and then next year's Giro.

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            I absolutely loved this year's race, mainly because it was during term break so i could watch a lot of stages. However, those guys were really going... which makes one wonder....

            And, further down the filed, this:

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            • scribeS scribe

              @Chris-B amazing. Did you see the look on Dumoulin and Van Aert’s faces as they watched that unfold?

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              @scribe said in Road Cycling:

              @Chris-B amazing. Did you see the look on Dumoulin and Van Aert’s faces as they watched that unfold?

              All I saw was utter disbelief that Pogačar could ride the course that fast. I'd be interested in seeing the wattage graphed.

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                @scribe said in Road Cycling:

                @Chris-B amazing. Did you see the look on Dumoulin and Van Aert’s faces as they watched that unfold?

                All I saw was utter disbelief that Pogačar could ride the course that fast. I'd be interested in seeing the wattage graphed.

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                @antipodean Dumoulin said that his numbers on Saturday were the same as when he won the world TT champs. A one day race. Pogacar pushed out 5% more power to get that far ahead and that was at the end of a 3 week tour ... Just as well a couple of the UAE bosses aren’t historically touched by doping. Evidently.

                It’s a shame that people are thinking this way as on the face of it Pogacar did something truly amazing. Perhaps the exuberance of youth. He rode the last climb to ‘feel’, with no power data or time checks.

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                • scribeS scribe

                  @antipodean Dumoulin said that his numbers on Saturday were the same as when he won the world TT champs. A one day race. Pogacar pushed out 5% more power to get that far ahead and that was at the end of a 3 week tour ... Just as well a couple of the UAE bosses aren’t historically touched by doping. Evidently.

                  It’s a shame that people are thinking this way as on the face of it Pogacar did something truly amazing. Perhaps the exuberance of youth. He rode the last climb to ‘feel’, with no power data or time checks.

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                  @scribe

                  I really want to believe.

                  But, at the back of my mind I remember buying a yellow wristband too.

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                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/122849835/kiwi-hopes-its-his-time-to-shine-after-watching-tour-de-france-unfold-from-afar

                    Patty Bevin hoping for a podium finish.

                    You'd think the guys who didn't ride the Tour and have been preparing specifically for this would have a significant advantage over those who did.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/122849835/kiwi-hopes-its-his-time-to-shine-after-watching-tour-de-france-unfold-from-afar

                      Patty Bevin hoping for a podium finish.

                      You'd think the guys who didn't ride the Tour and have been preparing specifically for this would have a significant advantage over those who did.

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                      @Chris-B said in Road Cycling:

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/122849835/kiwi-hopes-its-his-time-to-shine-after-watching-tour-de-france-unfold-from-afar

                      Patty Bevin hoping for a podium finish.

                      You'd think the guys who didn't ride the Tour and have been preparing specifically for this would have a significant advantage over those who did.

                      yeh i'd say so. will be a good race, Ganna's to lose.. flat course.. never count out Dennis tho.

                      I'm mainly interested to see how Finn Fisher-Black goes - he's the real deal... top 10 would be awesome.

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                        https://www.cyclingnews.com/races/uci-road-world-championships-2020/elite-men-time-trial/results/

                        Patty finishes 12th and 50 seconds off the podium.

                        When you look at the names ahead of him it is a tough gig!

                        Rohan Dennis only 5th and Dumoulin (nearly crashed) but 10th on the day.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          https://www.cyclingnews.com/races/uci-road-world-championships-2020/elite-men-time-trial/results/

                          Patty finishes 12th and 50 seconds off the podium.

                          When you look at the names ahead of him it is a tough gig!

                          Rohan Dennis only 5th and Dumoulin (nearly crashed) but 10th on the day.

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                          @Chris-B said in Road Cycling:

                          https://www.cyclingnews.com/races/uci-road-world-championships-2020/elite-men-time-trial/results/

                          Patty finishes 12th and 50 seconds off the podium.

                          When you look at the names ahead of him it is a tough gig!

                          Rohan Dennis only 5th and Dumoulin (nearly crashed) but 10th on the day.

                          I see Paddy picked up 5 spots after the intermediate timing. Not sure if he finished strong or others went out too hot but either way that’s a good thing.

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                            @Chris-B said in Road Cycling:

                            https://www.cyclingnews.com/races/uci-road-world-championships-2020/elite-men-time-trial/results/

                            Patty finishes 12th and 50 seconds off the podium.

                            When you look at the names ahead of him it is a tough gig!

                            Rohan Dennis only 5th and Dumoulin (nearly crashed) but 10th on the day.

                            I see Paddy picked up 5 spots after the intermediate timing. Not sure if he finished strong or others went out too hot but either way that’s a good thing.

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                            @Crucial Yeah - that link I posted also gives the intermediate split times at the bottom.

                            Bevin rode the second "half" 3 seconds faster than Ganna - just waay too slow in the first half. Van Aert, Kung and Asgreen all significantly faster than Ganna on the second half.

                            On the other side, Rohan Dennis was 2nd at the intermediate split - but, lost 20 seconds to Ganna in both sets of splits and three places over the 2nd leg. Probably went too hard early.

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                              https://www.cyclingnews.com/races/uci-road-world-championships-2020/elite-women-road-race/results/

                              Good result for the women.

                              Nianh Fisher-Black (15th) and Mikayla Harvey (22nd) finish in the lead bunch - a bit behind most of the big guns.

                              The Dutch kill it!

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                                He must feel like a right twat

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/300124008/winner-julian-alaphilippe-celebrates-too-soon-at-ligebastognelige-bike-race

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                                • M Machpants

                                  He must feel like a right twat

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/300124008/winner-julian-alaphilippe-celebrates-too-soon-at-ligebastognelige-bike-race

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                                  @Machpants said in Road Cycling:

                                  He must feel like a right twat

                                  There's a left twat? What have I been missing out on?

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @Machpants said in Road Cycling:

                                    He must feel like a right twat

                                    There's a left twat? What have I been missing out on?

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                                    @Crucial fun times, I feel sorry for you

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      He must feel like a right twat

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/300124008/winner-julian-alaphilippe-celebrates-too-soon-at-ligebastognelige-bike-race

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                                      @Machpants said in Road Cycling:

                                      He must feel like a right twat

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/300124008/winner-julian-alaphilippe-celebrates-too-soon-at-ligebastognelige-bike-race

                                      Love the front on slow mo of his team mate in the background! Not that I know much about cycling but I assume it was his team mates that got him there. All that hard work and that tosser throws the win away.

                                      I may have that all wrong but that is what it appears to be to me.

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                                        he got disqualified anyway for changing his line during the sprint so wasn't gonna win anyhoo...
                                        but still a massive fcukup for both
                                        just screwed Hirschi really as he chopped him and he had to stop

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                                          Ánother big "Wow" day in the Giro on Stage 3.

                                          Geraint Thomas crashed at the start (I gather still in the neutral zone) and presumably injured enough that he got dropped even before the start of the climb up Mt. Etna. He lost more than 12 minutes on the Stage winner and barring something extraordinary is surely out of GC contention.

                                          Almost as sensationally, Simon Yates blew up on the climb and is 3 minutes or so down on the other main GC contenders.

                                          If you want to see riding that isn't the big GC boys being dragged up the hill by their teams then this was it (and it's great!).

                                          In my view, Fuglsang looked the strongest of those I'd expect to fight things out, although Kelderman jumped away from the others and gained 10 seconds.

                                          Might be a battle of the old men - Fuglsang, Nibali, Kruiswijk, Pozzovivo, Majka all contending - along with Kelderman, maybe Bilbao (but surely having ridden the TdF he will fade).

                                          Things aren't irretrievable for Yates, but a pretty ominous fade.

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