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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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  • M Machpants

    Please remember to title your 23s with what I would pick vs what I think will be picked, then we can argue about it accurately!

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    @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    Please remember to title your 23s with what I would pick vs what I think will be picked, then we can argue about it accurately!

    I have no idea what (I think) they will pick.

    Hell, you can see I have no idea what I would pick ...

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      @sparky said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

      Sparky's Team

      Moody, Taylor, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Clarke, ALB, R Ioane, Jordan, J Barrett.

      Subs: Aumua, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, B.Barrett, Goodhue

      I like your forwards.

      But not so much your backs.

      Having said that I'm still not 100% on how I would mix by back division.

      BB would start, somewhere. Probably 10.

      ALB at 12 and Goodhue at 13 in his specialist position

      Reiko on one wing.

      Jordy 15.

      Leaves one spot at 14. So start Clarke and Reiko o n the wings and work out who is best on the right.

      TJP, Mo'unga and AN Other on the bench. Maybe DMac. All positions covered.

      My other option that I'd be OK with is RM at 10, BB at 15, JB at 14, Roane at 11. Bench TBC.

      Am ok with Roane at 13 but do not want to see JG at 12.

      Most underwhelming wing selection would be Bridge and Reece.

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      @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

      Most underwhelming wing selection would be Bridge and Reece.

      At least you got this part 100% correct.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

        @sparky I see little value in Goodhue off the bench he starts or isnt in the 23 IMO.

        Quite like @sparky s team. I would probably have come up with the same.

        With RIoane starting and BB on bench, the back three are well covered. Goodhue can either come in if Ioane has to move or if either of the starting midfielders is having an off day.
        We need midfield cover on the bench. Not an area we can cover with an allrounder.

        Maybe ALB could go bench, mainly due to Rennie knowing his game so well.

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        @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

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          @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

          @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

          Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
          Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
          Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

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          • TimT Tim

            Biggest problem for me is that unless we start Cane and Savea, a combination I don't care for at all, we will have inexperienced players at six and eight.

            Nightmare scenario is a starting lock forced off early with injury.

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            @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            Biggest problem for me is that unless we start Cane and Savea, a combination I don't care for at all, we will have inexperienced players at six and eight.

            Nightmare scenario is a starting lock forced off early with injury.

            Frizell isn't a debutant. 9 tests over two years is OKish.

            Cane, Frizell, Sotutu would be my preferred.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

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              @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

              Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
              Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
              Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

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                @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

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                @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                I'd be picking him there because it would be the best team. But I'd prefer JG/Roane over Roane and any other wing.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                  Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                  Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                  Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

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                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                  Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                  Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                  Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                  I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                  My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                  Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                  Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                  Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                  Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                    Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                    Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                    Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

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                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.

                    so imagine being Goodhue too then, as a 12 or 13? How is it any different?

                    The nature of professional sport, someone will miss out

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                      Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                      Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                      Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                      I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                      My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                      Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                      Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                      Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                      Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

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                      @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                      Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                      Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                      Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                      I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                      My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                      Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                      Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                      Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                      Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                      Upvote

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                        @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.

                        so imagine being Goodhue too then, as a 12 or 13? How is it any different?

                        The nature of professional sport, someone will miss out

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                        @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.

                        so imagine being Goodhue too then, as a 12 or 13? How is it any different?

                        The nature of professional sport, someone will miss out

                        Not talking about selected for team. I am referring to selection in position.

                        Goodhue knows that he is in a rotational midfield where both he and ALB cover both spots.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.

                          so imagine being Goodhue too then, as a 12 or 13? How is it any different?

                          The nature of professional sport, someone will miss out

                          Not talking about selected for team. I am referring to selection in position.

                          Goodhue knows that he is in a rotational midfield where both he and ALB cover both spots.

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                          @Crucial so did they not tell Ioane too then?

                          Has Goodhue played 12 for the ABs?

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                            Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                            Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                            Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                            I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                            My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                            Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                            Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                            Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                            Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                            Upvote

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                            @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                            Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                            Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                            Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                            I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                            My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                            Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                            Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                            Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                            Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                            Upvote

                            Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                              Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                              Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                              Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                              I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                              My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                              Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                              Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                              Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                              Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                              Upvote

                              Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

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                              @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                              Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                              Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                              Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                              I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                              My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                              Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                              Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                              Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                              Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                              Upvote

                              Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

                              We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                                Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                                Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                                Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                                I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                                My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                                Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                                Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                                Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                                Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                                Upvote

                                Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

                                We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.

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                                @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                                Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                                Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                                Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                                I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                                My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                                Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                                Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                                Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                                Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                                Upvote

                                Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

                                We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.

                                Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                                  Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                                  Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                                  Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                                  I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                                  My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                                  Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                                  Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                                  Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                                  Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                                  Upvote

                                  Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

                                  We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.

                                  Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.

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                                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                                  Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                                  Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                                  Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                                  I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                                  My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                                  Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                                  Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                                  Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                                  Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                                  Upvote

                                  Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

                                  We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.

                                  Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.

                                  Roane was the best wing in the world for probably two years, not someone who hasn't played there since his schoolboys days.

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                                    Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                                    Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                                    Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                                    I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                                    My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                                    Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                                    Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                                    Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                                    Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                                    Upvote

                                    Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

                                    We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.

                                    Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.

                                    Roane was the best wing in the world for probably two years, not someone who hasn't played there since his schoolboys days.

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                                    @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                                    Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                                    Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                                    Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                                    I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                                    My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                                    Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                                    Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                                    Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                                    Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                                    Upvote

                                    Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

                                    We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.

                                    Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.

                                    Roane was the best wing in the world for probably two years, not someone who hasn't played there since his schoolboys days.

                                    Where's the evidence that he is still a test force on the wing? He fizzled and struggled for form IIRC

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                                      Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                                      Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                                      Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                                      I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                                      My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                                      Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                                      Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                                      Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                                      Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                                      Upvote

                                      Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

                                      We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.

                                      Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.

                                      Roane was the best wing in the world for probably two years, not someone who hasn't played there since his schoolboys days.

                                      Where's the evidence that he is still a test force on the wing? He fizzled and struggled for form IIRC

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                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Nepia said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Crucial id be more inclined to start Goodhue with Ioane on the wing, moving in later when you bring on Clarke

                                      Backward move in Roane's development. Sure he can cover the wing but I think that they have to fully invest in him at 13.
                                      Imagine what his mind will go through after putting in all this effort and performance at 13, getting selected because of it and then not being trusted.
                                      Also the guys in the squad selected as wings will be confused why a centre was picked ahead of them.

                                      I'm sure he's had no guarantees at centre, I'd rather have the most firepower on the field, Roane on the wing does that IMHO.

                                      My team, since we're selecting our preferred teams:

                                      Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Aoane, Cane, Sotutu, A Smith, Mo'unga, Roane, ALB, Goodhue, Clarke, B Barrett.

                                      Subs: Taylor, Karl T, Ofa T, Vaa'i, A Savea, TJP, Jordan, J Barrett.

                                      Still can't bring myself to pick the Tongan from the Invitational Chequebook XV over a NZer.

                                      Two outside backs reserves looks a bit weird, but Roane covers the midfield (and JB can too which will have his fluffers reaching for the lube and tissues) and BB covers 10.

                                      Upvote

                                      Cullen, Wilson, Lomu, Umaga....all that firepower.

                                      We're not suggesting playing BB at centre.

                                      Just the obvious example of shoehorning that didn't work. Roane has played 13 all year. Let's chuck him on the wing simply because he's a good player, not necessarily because he is our best winger.

                                      Roane was the best wing in the world for probably two years, not someone who hasn't played there since his schoolboys days.

                                      Where's the evidence that he is still a test force on the wing? He fizzled and struggled for form IIRC

                                      Settle down Mr Bridge 😉 , he was carrying an injury last year (yet still managed to outrun and outscore the guy who replaced him during the Super comp) and his form this year in more traffic has been great, no reason to think he wont be able to replicate that one position out.

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                                        Officials

                                        REFEREE: Paul Williams (NZR)
                                        ASSISTANT REFEREE 1: Ben O'Keeffe (NZR)
                                        ASSISTANT REFEREE 2: Angus Gardner (RA)
                                        TMO: Mike Fraser (NZR)

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                                          People picking Roane to start on the wing and move into centre are people looking for ways to lose. Would be a defensive catastrophe. If he starts on the wing he stays there unless we're up by a gazillion.

                                          Like @Sparky's team, best balance in the backs although I can't really see Reece not getting a start.

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