Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11
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Surely there is no chance Savea starts at 8 over Sotutu? He can't whack on about bringing physicality back then do that, it'd be a mockery.
@voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Surely there is no chance Savea starts at 8 over Sotutu? He can't whack on about bringing physicality back then do that, it'd be a mockery.
but the staaaaaaats
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@NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
ANDREW SLACK’S WALLABIES BACKLINE
- Tom Banks, 14. Filipo Daugunu, 13. Jordan Petaia, 12. Hunter Paisami/James O’Connor/Matt Toomua, 11. Marika Koroibete, 10. Noah Lolesio, 9. Tate McDermott.
Ex-QLD player in shoehorn-QLD-players shock.
It's a bit like club/franchise coach insists one of his players should be in the test team shocker
@Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
It's a bit like club/franchise coach insists one of his players should be in the test team shocker
I've been following Ben Darwin on twitter, and one of the things he circles back to is combinations - and backs it up with data as well. The theory of "put the best players together" can work, but I'd rather see Rennie look at key combinations.
Keeping in mind I haven't watched much of SRAU at all:
Tate McDermott seems to be head and shoulders above the other options at 9, so he's a definite pick. It therefore stands to reason - using Darwin's theory
- that you pick James O'Connor next to him, who has also had a good season behind what is a young but inconsistent pack.Nic White therefore goes on the bench IMHO. One good game in Perth a year ago and then fuck all since.
Lolesio is a good player, but he's a kid, and will have his chances in future years. You can't really put him on the bench as he doesn't play any other positions.
I've got serious questions about the liability presented by Petaia. The kid could be anything - mostly broken - so what is going on with his S&C work? Start him, see if he breaks (again), and bring on someone else.
Toomua probably sits in 12 at that point as the logical backup 10, and brings experience and another boot to the backline to opt between a bash n barge inside centre as well as second five in the same shirt.
Koroibete picks himself. I'm not convinced that Daugunu is a positive in terms of being able to kick us out of trouble. That's why Banks is at the back, and maybe Wright on the blindside wing.
I've seen various forward packs listed elsewhere, and would probably go for something akin to Paul Cully's pack:
1 Sio
2 Fainga'a
3 Alalaatoa (Cully picked Tupou but nah)
4 Philip
5 LSL
6 Samu
7 Hooper (capt)
8 Wilson
9 McDermott
10 JOC
11 Koroibete
12 Toomua
13 Petaia
14 Wright
15 Banks16 Uelese
17 Slipper
18 Tupou
19 Hosea (big unit - give him a go)
20 Wright
21 White
22 ?Paisami/Simone?
23 Hodge -
@Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
It's a bit like club/franchise coach insists one of his players should be in the test team shocker
I've been following Ben Darwin on twitter, and one of the things he circles back to is combinations - and backs it up with data as well. The theory of "put the best players together" can work, but I'd rather see Rennie look at key combinations.
Keeping in mind I haven't watched much of SRAU at all:
Tate McDermott seems to be head and shoulders above the other options at 9, so he's a definite pick. It therefore stands to reason - using Darwin's theory
- that you pick James O'Connor next to him, who has also had a good season behind what is a young but inconsistent pack.Nic White therefore goes on the bench IMHO. One good game in Perth a year ago and then fuck all since.
Lolesio is a good player, but he's a kid, and will have his chances in future years. You can't really put him on the bench as he doesn't play any other positions.
I've got serious questions about the liability presented by Petaia. The kid could be anything - mostly broken - so what is going on with his S&C work? Start him, see if he breaks (again), and bring on someone else.
Toomua probably sits in 12 at that point as the logical backup 10, and brings experience and another boot to the backline to opt between a bash n barge inside centre as well as second five in the same shirt.
Koroibete picks himself. I'm not convinced that Daugunu is a positive in terms of being able to kick us out of trouble. That's why Banks is at the back, and maybe Wright on the blindside wing.
I've seen various forward packs listed elsewhere, and would probably go for something akin to Paul Cully's pack:
1 Sio
2 Fainga'a
3 Alalaatoa (Cully picked Tupou but nah)
4 Philip
5 LSL
6 Samu
7 Hooper (capt)
8 Wilson
9 McDermott
10 JOC
11 Koroibete
12 Toomua
13 Petaia
14 Wright
15 Banks16 Uelese
17 Slipper
18 Tupou
19 Hosea (big unit - give him a go)
20 Wright
21 White
22 ?Paisami/Simone?
23 Hodge -
@NTA That looks pretty close to the mark. I think i'd have DHP at fullback ahead of Banks - DHP is no good on the wing but a good fullback and more well rounded than Banks to me.
@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA That looks pretty close to the mark. I think i'd have DHP at fullback ahead of Banks - DHP is no good on the wing but a good fullback and more well rounded than Banks to me.
Either Banks fails and I get to tell Brumbies fans (both of them) that he was never worthy despite all their jizzmatic explanations supporting his selection, or he succeeds and I get a Bledisloe win.
There's no loser here.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA That looks pretty close to the mark. I think i'd have DHP at fullback ahead of Banks - DHP is no good on the wing but a good fullback and more well rounded than Banks to me.
Either Banks fails and I get to tell Brumbies fans (both of them) that he was never worthy despite all their jizzmatic explanations supporting his selection, or he succeeds and I get a Bledisloe win.
There's no loser here.
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@nzzp said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Is bled 2 at ASB stadium?
Auckland council don't really let you have anything. In spite of the fact that you own the place and pay them shit loads for rates for which you receive no services. That should also read consents not concerts. They don't allow them either. In spite of a housing crisis apparently.
Set me off briefly there.
As for the rugby - if that is the Aussie team it won't be like like England where we got smashed off the park. I like that our coach has recognised that though, and selection gets more interesting. Loosies in particular, we don't have much choice at lock.
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@Duluth If he hasn't already, I think PUJ will make a strong case to be that long term 13. He just looks to be the most natural centre in NZ. He has a great mix of size, speed, and skillset similar to his uncle that is perfect for the game today.
I've said this a few times on the thread aswell that we should also try J Barrett at 12. This means it opens up an opportunity for someone like Jordan to lock down the 15 jersey aswell.
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I'm actually starting to feel a bit giddy over some test match rugby. Sadly It'll probably be a bit shit, as we normally are first test of the year.
@Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
I'm actually starting to feel a bit giddy over some test match rugby. Sadly It'll probably be a bit shit, as we normally are first test of the year.
Yeah. That last bit is just a fact of life.
We can hope for a change? Nah. It will be shit from us (disappointment disappoints me, so I prefer the expectment management and then I won't be disappointed).
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@Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA Or he plays well and you still lose by 30.
You underestimate my ability to blame the Ponies for everything.
I'll admit, it is possible. But fullback is a pivotal defensive position so it is easy to blame them.
For example: Chris Fucking Latham in 2000 letting in 3 tries early. See?
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@Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@NTA Or he plays well and you still lose by 30.
You underestimate my ability to blame the Ponies for everything.
I'll admit, it is possible. But fullback is a pivotal defensive position so it is easy to blame them.
For example: Chris Fucking Latham in 2000 letting in 3 tries early. See?
@NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
For example: Chris Fucking Latham in 2000 letting in 3 tries early. See?
To which the follow-up comment is "Fucking Reds players. Always letting us down".
Next week in Welly: "That John Eales is a fucking great Aussie player. Surprising that he came out of Queensland".
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@nzzp said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Is bled 2 at ASB stadium?
Auckland council don't really let you have anything. In spite of the fact that you own the place and pay them shit loads for rates for which you receive no services. That should also read consents not concerts. They don't allow them either. In spite of a housing crisis apparently.
Set me off briefly there.
As for the rugby - if that is the Aussie team it won't be like like England where we got smashed off the park. I like that our coach has recognised that though, and selection gets more interesting. Loosies in particular, we don't have much choice at lock.
@Snowy said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Auckland council don't really let you have anything. In spite of the fact that you own the place and pay them shit loads for rates for which you receive no services.
You're getting CRL though, that's where the money is going.
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@Snowy said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Auckland council don't really let you have anything. In spite of the fact that you own the place and pay them shit loads for rates for which you receive no services.
You're getting CRL though, that's where the money is going.
@nzzp said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Snowy said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Auckland council don't really let you have anything. In spite of the fact that you own the place and pay them shit loads for rates for which you receive no services.
You're getting CRL though, that's where the money is going.
Can you take this elsewhere? We actually have test rugby to talk about for a change and you want to whinge about rates FFS!
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Training in Hamilton last week was very secretive as only authorised people were allowed through the gate at Waikato Stadium (sorry, FMG Stadium Waikato), and you can't see in from the outside. Who knows were the ABs are based in Wellington. Aussie is in Queenstown.
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@Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Where are the leaks? Where are the rumours?
Pretty quiet for a Tuesday.
Yea! even the ole "Player X/Y/Z was training in the 12/6/8 Jersey
@Hooroo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
@Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Where are the leaks? Where are the rumours?
Pretty quiet for a Tuesday.
Yea! even the ole "Player X/Y/Z was training in the 12/6/8 Jersey
Exactly. We normally have a media report of x and y were lining up at 10 and 12 etc.
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Training in Hamilton last week was very secretive as only authorised people were allowed through the gate at Waikato Stadium (sorry, FMG Stadium Waikato), and you can't see in from the outside. Who knows were the ABs are based in Wellington. Aussie is in Queenstown.
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:
Training in Hamilton last week was very secretive as only authorised people were allowed through the gate at Waikato Stadium (sorry, FMG Stadium Waikato), and you can't see in from the outside. Who knows were the ABs are based in Wellington. Aussie is in Queenstown.
They usually train at Rugby League Park in Newtown.
And stay at the InterContinental if you want to make a breakfast booking.
