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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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    @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    ANDREW SLACK’S WALLABIES BACKLINE

    1. Tom Banks, 14. Filipo Daugunu, 13. Jordan Petaia, 12. Hunter Paisami/James O’Connor/Matt Toomua, 11. Marika Koroibete, 10. Noah Lolesio, 9. Tate McDermott.

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-wallabies-captain-picks-up-to-four-potential-debutants-in-australian-backline-for-all-blacks-clash/

    Ex-QLD player in shoehorn-QLD-players shock.

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    @NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    ANDREW SLACK’S WALLABIES BACKLINE

    1. Tom Banks, 14. Filipo Daugunu, 13. Jordan Petaia, 12. Hunter Paisami/James O’Connor/Matt Toomua, 11. Marika Koroibete, 10. Noah Lolesio, 9. Tate McDermott.

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-wallabies-captain-picks-up-to-four-potential-debutants-in-australian-backline-for-all-blacks-clash/

    Ex-QLD player in shoehorn-QLD-players shock.

    It's a bit like club/franchise coach insists one of his players should be in the test team shocker

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      When you play on a Sunday out goes the tradition:

      The All Blacks name their first test team of the year on Friday morning.
      
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        If Foster picks Savea at 8 i will be getting the fat effigies out straight away.

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          If Foster picks Savea at 8 i will be getting the fat effigies out straight away.

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          @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

          If Foster picks Savea at 8 i will be getting the fat effigies out straight away.

          Indeed. Would it kill him to hop on the treadmill once in awhile ?

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            If Foster picks Savea at 8 i will be getting the fat effigies out straight away.

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            @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            If Foster picks Savea at 8 i will be getting the fat effigies out straight away.

            if you burn them, do they smell like crackling?

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              Surely there is no chance Savea starts at 8 over Sotutu? He can't whack on about bringing physicality back then do that, it'd be a mockery.

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                If Foster picks Savea at 8 i will be getting the fat effigies out straight away.

                if you burn them, do they smell like crackling?

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                @nzzp said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                If Foster picks Savea at 8 i will be getting the fat effigies out straight away.

                if you burn them, do they smell like crackling?

                dunno, i import mine from India

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                  Surely there is no chance Savea starts at 8 over Sotutu? He can't whack on about bringing physicality back then do that, it'd be a mockery.

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                  @voodoo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  Surely there is no chance Savea starts at 8 over Sotutu? He can't whack on about bringing physicality back then do that, it'd be a mockery.

                  but the staaaaaaats

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                  • M Machpants

                    @NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    ANDREW SLACK’S WALLABIES BACKLINE

                    1. Tom Banks, 14. Filipo Daugunu, 13. Jordan Petaia, 12. Hunter Paisami/James O’Connor/Matt Toomua, 11. Marika Koroibete, 10. Noah Lolesio, 9. Tate McDermott.

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-wallabies-captain-picks-up-to-four-potential-debutants-in-australian-backline-for-all-blacks-clash/

                    Ex-QLD player in shoehorn-QLD-players shock.

                    It's a bit like club/franchise coach insists one of his players should be in the test team shocker

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                    @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    It's a bit like club/franchise coach insists one of his players should be in the test team shocker

                    I've been following Ben Darwin on twitter, and one of the things he circles back to is combinations - and backs it up with data as well. The theory of "put the best players together" can work, but I'd rather see Rennie look at key combinations.

                    Keeping in mind I haven't watched much of SRAU at all:

                    Tate McDermott seems to be head and shoulders above the other options at 9, so he's a definite pick. It therefore stands to reason - using Darwin's theory 😉 - that you pick James O'Connor next to him, who has also had a good season behind what is a young but inconsistent pack.

                    Nic White therefore goes on the bench IMHO. One good game in Perth a year ago and then fuck all since.

                    Lolesio is a good player, but he's a kid, and will have his chances in future years. You can't really put him on the bench as he doesn't play any other positions.

                    I've got serious questions about the liability presented by Petaia. The kid could be anything - mostly broken - so what is going on with his S&C work? Start him, see if he breaks (again), and bring on someone else.

                    Toomua probably sits in 12 at that point as the logical backup 10, and brings experience and another boot to the backline to opt between a bash n barge inside centre as well as second five in the same shirt.

                    Koroibete picks himself. I'm not convinced that Daugunu is a positive in terms of being able to kick us out of trouble. That's why Banks is at the back, and maybe Wright on the blindside wing.

                    I've seen various forward packs listed elsewhere, and would probably go for something akin to Paul Cully's pack:

                    1 Sio
                    2 Fainga'a
                    3 Alalaatoa (Cully picked Tupou but nah)
                    4 Philip
                    5 LSL
                    6 Samu
                    7 Hooper (capt)
                    8 Wilson
                    9 McDermott
                    10 JOC
                    11 Koroibete
                    12 Toomua
                    13 Petaia
                    14 Wright
                    15 Banks

                    16 Uelese
                    17 Slipper
                    18 Tupou
                    19 Hosea (big unit - give him a go)
                    20 Wright
                    21 White
                    22 ?Paisami/Simone?
                    23 Hodge

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                      @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      It's a bit like club/franchise coach insists one of his players should be in the test team shocker

                      I've been following Ben Darwin on twitter, and one of the things he circles back to is combinations - and backs it up with data as well. The theory of "put the best players together" can work, but I'd rather see Rennie look at key combinations.

                      Keeping in mind I haven't watched much of SRAU at all:

                      Tate McDermott seems to be head and shoulders above the other options at 9, so he's a definite pick. It therefore stands to reason - using Darwin's theory 😉 - that you pick James O'Connor next to him, who has also had a good season behind what is a young but inconsistent pack.

                      Nic White therefore goes on the bench IMHO. One good game in Perth a year ago and then fuck all since.

                      Lolesio is a good player, but he's a kid, and will have his chances in future years. You can't really put him on the bench as he doesn't play any other positions.

                      I've got serious questions about the liability presented by Petaia. The kid could be anything - mostly broken - so what is going on with his S&C work? Start him, see if he breaks (again), and bring on someone else.

                      Toomua probably sits in 12 at that point as the logical backup 10, and brings experience and another boot to the backline to opt between a bash n barge inside centre as well as second five in the same shirt.

                      Koroibete picks himself. I'm not convinced that Daugunu is a positive in terms of being able to kick us out of trouble. That's why Banks is at the back, and maybe Wright on the blindside wing.

                      I've seen various forward packs listed elsewhere, and would probably go for something akin to Paul Cully's pack:

                      1 Sio
                      2 Fainga'a
                      3 Alalaatoa (Cully picked Tupou but nah)
                      4 Philip
                      5 LSL
                      6 Samu
                      7 Hooper (capt)
                      8 Wilson
                      9 McDermott
                      10 JOC
                      11 Koroibete
                      12 Toomua
                      13 Petaia
                      14 Wright
                      15 Banks

                      16 Uelese
                      17 Slipper
                      18 Tupou
                      19 Hosea (big unit - give him a go)
                      20 Wright
                      21 White
                      22 ?Paisami/Simone?
                      23 Hodge

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                      @NTA That looks pretty close to the mark. I think i'd have DHP at fullback ahead of Banks - DHP is no good on the wing but a good fullback and more well rounded than Banks to me.

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                        @NTA That looks pretty close to the mark. I think i'd have DHP at fullback ahead of Banks - DHP is no good on the wing but a good fullback and more well rounded than Banks to me.

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                        @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        @NTA That looks pretty close to the mark. I think i'd have DHP at fullback ahead of Banks - DHP is no good on the wing but a good fullback and more well rounded than Banks to me.

                        Either Banks fails and I get to tell Brumbies fans (both of them) that he was never worthy despite all their jizzmatic explanations supporting his selection, or he succeeds and I get a Bledisloe win.

                        There's no loser here.

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          @NTA That looks pretty close to the mark. I think i'd have DHP at fullback ahead of Banks - DHP is no good on the wing but a good fullback and more well rounded than Banks to me.

                          Either Banks fails and I get to tell Brumbies fans (both of them) that he was never worthy despite all their jizzmatic explanations supporting his selection, or he succeeds and I get a Bledisloe win.

                          There's no loser here.

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                          @NTA Or he plays well and you still lose by 30.

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                            @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            Is bled 2 at ASB stadium?

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                            @nzzp said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            Is bled 2 at ASB stadium?

                            68a61e8f-105b-41af-98c5-511845e6bcd2-image.png

                            Auckland council don't really let you have anything. In spite of the fact that you own the place and pay them shit loads for rates for which you receive no services. That should also read consents not concerts. They don't allow them either. In spite of a housing crisis apparently.

                            Set me off briefly there.

                            As for the rugby - if that is the Aussie team it won't be like like England where we got smashed off the park. I like that our coach has recognised that though, and selection gets more interesting. Loosies in particular, we don't have much choice at lock.

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                              I'm actually starting to feel a bit giddy over some test match rugby. Sadly It'll probably be a bit shit, as we normally are first test of the year.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @Duluth If he hasn't already, I think PUJ will make a strong case to be that long term 13. He just looks to be the most natural centre in NZ. He has a great mix of size, speed, and skillset similar to his uncle that is perfect for the game today.

                                I've said this a few times on the thread aswell that we should also try J Barrett at 12. This means it opens up an opportunity for someone like Jordan to lock down the 15 jersey aswell.

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                                @Canes4life Jordie needs to be seen properly at 12 at Super level before International level though.

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                                  I'm actually starting to feel a bit giddy over some test match rugby. Sadly It'll probably be a bit shit, as we normally are first test of the year.

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                                  @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  I'm actually starting to feel a bit giddy over some test match rugby. Sadly It'll probably be a bit shit, as we normally are first test of the year.

                                  Yeah. That last bit is just a fact of life.

                                  We can hope for a change? Nah. It will be shit from us (disappointment disappoints me, so I prefer the expectment management and then I won't be disappointed).

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                                    @NTA Or he plays well and you still lose by 30.

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                                    @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @NTA Or he plays well and you still lose by 30.

                                    You underestimate my ability to blame the Ponies for everything.

                                    I'll admit, it is possible. But fullback is a pivotal defensive position so it is easy to blame them.

                                    For example: Chris Fucking Latham in 2000 letting in 3 tries early. See?

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                                      @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @NTA Or he plays well and you still lose by 30.

                                      You underestimate my ability to blame the Ponies for everything.

                                      I'll admit, it is possible. But fullback is a pivotal defensive position so it is easy to blame them.

                                      For example: Chris Fucking Latham in 2000 letting in 3 tries early. See?

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                                      @NTA said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      For example: Chris Fucking Latham in 2000 letting in 3 tries early. See?

                                      To which the follow-up comment is "Fucking Reds players. Always letting us down".

                                      Next week in Welly: "That John Eales is a fucking great Aussie player. Surprising that he came out of Queensland".

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                                        Where are the leaks? Where are the rumours?

                                        Pretty quiet for a Tuesday.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Where are the leaks? Where are the rumours?

                                          Pretty quiet for a Tuesday.

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                                          @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          Where are the leaks? Where are the rumours?

                                          Pretty quiet for a Tuesday.

                                          Yea! even the ole "Player X/Y/Z was training in the 12/6/8 Jersey

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