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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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    Liam Napier’s article on the Herald seems to suggest Savea will be at 8...

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      All Blacks coach Ian Foster has released three players from his hefty 35-man squad for provincial duty this weekend.

      Uncapped Canterbury loose forward Cullen Grace, Ta$man tighthead prop Tyrel Lomax, and midfielder Thomas Umaga-Jensen, are all available to play in round five of the Mitre 10 Cup.

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      • TimT Tim

        All Blacks coach Ian Foster has released three players from his hefty 35-man squad for provincial duty this weekend.

        Uncapped Canterbury loose forward Cullen Grace, Ta$man tighthead prop Tyrel Lomax, and midfielder Thomas Umaga-Jensen, are all available to play in round five of the Mitre 10 Cup.

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        @Tim Thomas? Wrong twin.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Tim Thomas? Wrong twin.

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          @Stargazer Ha ha, NZ media.

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          • UniteU Unite

            Liam Napier’s article on the Herald seems to suggest Savea will be at 8...

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            @Unite said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            Liam Napier’s article on the Herald seems to suggest Savea will be at 8...

            Yeah, read that. Napier often gets the early week predictions quite close.
            He also talks about BB, RM and JB all starting. Hasn't made a call on the midfield though.

            Personally I'd rather we keep experience on the bench rather than bank on finishing with inexperience.

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            • TimT Tim

              All Blacks coach Ian Foster has released three players from his hefty 35-man squad for provincial duty this weekend.

              Uncapped Canterbury loose forward Cullen Grace, Ta$man tighthead prop Tyrel Lomax, and midfielder Thomas Umaga-Jensen, are all available to play in round five of the Mitre 10 Cup.

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              @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              All Blacks coach Ian Foster has released three players from his hefty 35-man squad for provincial duty this weekend.

              Uncapped Canterbury loose forward Cullen Grace, Ta$man tighthead prop Tyrel Lomax, and midfielder Thomas Umaga-Jensen, are all available to play in round five of the Mitre 10 Cup.

              Tyrel back to play for us vs BoP.

              That should shore up the scrum.

              Fozzie not forgetting he's from Waikato! 🙂

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @Kirwan said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                Liked his answers about the new players. Seems more steely eyed than normal

                Must be weird to be asked questions. Became a bit for Hanson to direct the press to Fozzie at times.

                Yeah, if this was a signal of a Fozzie taking on the mantle, it was quite noticeable change.

                Looks ready to go. A few big decisions ahead. Do we still have to wait till Thursday?

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                @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                Looks ready to go. A few big decisions ahead. Do we still have to wait till Thursday?

                Friday due to Sunday test

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                • UniteU Unite

                  Liam Napier’s article on the Herald seems to suggest Savea will be at 8...

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                  @Unite said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  Liam Napier’s article on the Herald seems to suggest Savea will be at 8...

                  so he will choose the, at best, 3rd best 8 in the country (he's probably 4th to be honest)?

                  that is a real fucking good start Fozzie you fat fuck.

                  Pick him at 7, or don't pick him.

                  This is what you get when you value continuity over everything else.

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                    So much for some in the media picking Lomax would be in the 23.

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                      If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                      Moody
                      Taylor
                      Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                      Sam W
                      Tuipulotu
                      Frizzel
                      Cane
                      Sotutu
                      Smith
                      Mo'unga
                      Clarke
                      ALB
                      Ioane
                      Jordan
                      J Barrett

                      Aumua
                      Karl T
                      Ofa T
                      Vaa'i
                      Ioane
                      Savea
                      TJP
                      B Barrett

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                        Bovidae
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                        @mariner4life is Mauger with the 6:2 split.

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                          I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

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                            @KiwiMurph Are you implying that you are ok in selecting players that might not be "up to it" into the All Blacks squad. Surely if a player is selected in the squad he must be considered good enough to do the job. If not "up to it"but he is the best available in that particular position then we will just have to live with it.

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                            • HigginsH Higgins

                              @KiwiMurph Are you implying that you are ok in selecting players that might not be "up to it" into the All Blacks squad. Surely if a player is selected in the squad he must be considered good enough to do the job. If not "up to it"but he is the best available in that particular position then we will just have to live with it.

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                              @Higgins I didn't say he wasn't up to it - I'm just not against easing him in perhaps off the bench or even wait until the second Bledisloe once we've had a look at Rennie's Wallabies. In a unique unknown situation as this first test I don't think experience in the loosies is a bad thing.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                Moody
                                Taylor
                                Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                Sam W
                                Tuipulotu
                                Frizzel
                                Cane
                                Sotutu
                                Smith
                                Mo'unga
                                Clarke
                                ALB
                                Ioane
                                Jordan
                                J Barrett

                                Aumua
                                Karl T
                                Ofa T
                                Vaa'i
                                Ioane
                                Savea
                                TJP
                                B Barrett

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                                Machpants
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                                #185

                                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                Moody
                                Taylor
                                Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                Sam W
                                Tuipulotu
                                Frizzel
                                Cane
                                Sotutu
                                Smith
                                Mo'unga
                                Clarke
                                ALB
                                Ioane
                                Jordan
                                J Barrett

                                Aumua
                                Karl T
                                Ofa T
                                Vaa'i
                                Ioane
                                Savea
                                TJP
                                B Barrett

                                Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                                  The other seven blokes will have a big say in that though.

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                    Moody
                                    Taylor
                                    Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                    Sam W
                                    Tuipulotu
                                    Frizzel
                                    Cane
                                    Sotutu
                                    Smith
                                    Mo'unga
                                    Clarke
                                    ALB
                                    Ioane
                                    Jordan
                                    J Barrett

                                    Aumua
                                    Karl T
                                    Ofa T
                                    Vaa'i
                                    Ioane
                                    Savea
                                    TJP
                                    B Barrett

                                    Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

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                                    @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                    Moody
                                    Taylor
                                    Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                    Sam W
                                    Tuipulotu
                                    Frizzel
                                    Cane
                                    Sotutu
                                    Smith
                                    Mo'unga
                                    Clarke
                                    ALB
                                    Ioane
                                    Jordan
                                    J Barrett

                                    Aumua
                                    Karl T
                                    Ofa T
                                    Vaa'i
                                    Ioane
                                    Savea
                                    TJP
                                    B Barrett

                                    Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                                    TJP is there.

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                      Moody
                                      Taylor
                                      Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                      Sam W
                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Frizzel
                                      Cane
                                      Sotutu
                                      Smith
                                      Mo'unga
                                      Clarke
                                      ALB
                                      Ioane
                                      Jordan
                                      J Barrett

                                      Aumua
                                      Karl T
                                      Ofa T
                                      Vaa'i
                                      Ioane
                                      Savea
                                      TJP
                                      B Barrett

                                      Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

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                                      @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                      Moody
                                      Taylor
                                      Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                      Sam W
                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Frizzel
                                      Cane
                                      Sotutu
                                      Smith
                                      Mo'unga
                                      Clarke
                                      ALB
                                      Ioane
                                      Jordan
                                      J Barrett

                                      Aumua
                                      Karl T
                                      Ofa T
                                      Vaa'i
                                      Ioane
                                      Savea
                                      TJP
                                      B Barrett

                                      Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                                      Who are you swapping Ofa for?

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                        Moody
                                        Taylor
                                        Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                        Sam W
                                        Tuipulotu
                                        Frizzel
                                        Cane
                                        Sotutu
                                        Smith
                                        Mo'unga
                                        Clarke
                                        ALB
                                        Ioane
                                        Jordan
                                        J Barrett

                                        Aumua
                                        Karl T
                                        Ofa T
                                        Vaa'i
                                        Ioane
                                        Savea
                                        TJP
                                        B Barrett

                                        Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

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                                        @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                        Moody
                                        Taylor
                                        Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                        Sam W
                                        Tuipulotu
                                        Frizzel
                                        Cane
                                        Sotutu
                                        Smith
                                        Mo'unga
                                        Clarke
                                        ALB
                                        Ioane
                                        Jordan
                                        J Barrett

                                        Aumua
                                        Karl T
                                        Ofa T
                                        Vaa'i
                                        Ioane
                                        Savea
                                        TJP
                                        B Barrett

                                        Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                                        dude

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @mariner4life is Mauger with the 6:2 split.

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                                          @Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @mariner4life is Mauger with the 6:2 split.

                                          damn right. Tests are won up front. Token back replacements are rarely required. B Barrett is there for impact with his pace later on.

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