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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @mariner4life is Mauger with the 6:2 split.

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    • KiwiMurphK Online
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      I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

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        @KiwiMurph Are you implying that you are ok in selecting players that might not be "up to it" into the All Blacks squad. Surely if a player is selected in the squad he must be considered good enough to do the job. If not "up to it"but he is the best available in that particular position then we will just have to live with it.

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        • HigginsH Higgins

          @KiwiMurph Are you implying that you are ok in selecting players that might not be "up to it" into the All Blacks squad. Surely if a player is selected in the squad he must be considered good enough to do the job. If not "up to it"but he is the best available in that particular position then we will just have to live with it.

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          @Higgins I didn't say he wasn't up to it - I'm just not against easing him in perhaps off the bench or even wait until the second Bledisloe once we've had a look at Rennie's Wallabies. In a unique unknown situation as this first test I don't think experience in the loosies is a bad thing.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

            Moody
            Taylor
            Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
            Sam W
            Tuipulotu
            Frizzel
            Cane
            Sotutu
            Smith
            Mo'unga
            Clarke
            ALB
            Ioane
            Jordan
            J Barrett

            Aumua
            Karl T
            Ofa T
            Vaa'i
            Ioane
            Savea
            TJP
            B Barrett

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            #185

            @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

            Moody
            Taylor
            Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
            Sam W
            Tuipulotu
            Frizzel
            Cane
            Sotutu
            Smith
            Mo'unga
            Clarke
            ALB
            Ioane
            Jordan
            J Barrett

            Aumua
            Karl T
            Ofa T
            Vaa'i
            Ioane
            Savea
            TJP
            B Barrett

            Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

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              #186

              @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

              The other seven blokes will have a big say in that though.

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              • M Machpants

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                Moody
                Taylor
                Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                Sam W
                Tuipulotu
                Frizzel
                Cane
                Sotutu
                Smith
                Mo'unga
                Clarke
                ALB
                Ioane
                Jordan
                J Barrett

                Aumua
                Karl T
                Ofa T
                Vaa'i
                Ioane
                Savea
                TJP
                B Barrett

                Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                KiwiMurphK Online
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                #187

                @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                Moody
                Taylor
                Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                Sam W
                Tuipulotu
                Frizzel
                Cane
                Sotutu
                Smith
                Mo'unga
                Clarke
                ALB
                Ioane
                Jordan
                J Barrett

                Aumua
                Karl T
                Ofa T
                Vaa'i
                Ioane
                Savea
                TJP
                B Barrett

                Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                TJP is there.

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                • M Machpants

                  @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                  Moody
                  Taylor
                  Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                  Sam W
                  Tuipulotu
                  Frizzel
                  Cane
                  Sotutu
                  Smith
                  Mo'unga
                  Clarke
                  ALB
                  Ioane
                  Jordan
                  J Barrett

                  Aumua
                  Karl T
                  Ofa T
                  Vaa'i
                  Ioane
                  Savea
                  TJP
                  B Barrett

                  Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

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                  @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                  Moody
                  Taylor
                  Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                  Sam W
                  Tuipulotu
                  Frizzel
                  Cane
                  Sotutu
                  Smith
                  Mo'unga
                  Clarke
                  ALB
                  Ioane
                  Jordan
                  J Barrett

                  Aumua
                  Karl T
                  Ofa T
                  Vaa'i
                  Ioane
                  Savea
                  TJP
                  B Barrett

                  Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                  Who are you swapping Ofa for?

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                  • M Machpants

                    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                    Moody
                    Taylor
                    Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                    Sam W
                    Tuipulotu
                    Frizzel
                    Cane
                    Sotutu
                    Smith
                    Mo'unga
                    Clarke
                    ALB
                    Ioane
                    Jordan
                    J Barrett

                    Aumua
                    Karl T
                    Ofa T
                    Vaa'i
                    Ioane
                    Savea
                    TJP
                    B Barrett

                    Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                    mariner4lifeM Online
                    mariner4lifeM Online
                    mariner4life
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                    #189

                    @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                    Moody
                    Taylor
                    Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                    Sam W
                    Tuipulotu
                    Frizzel
                    Cane
                    Sotutu
                    Smith
                    Mo'unga
                    Clarke
                    ALB
                    Ioane
                    Jordan
                    J Barrett

                    Aumua
                    Karl T
                    Ofa T
                    Vaa'i
                    Ioane
                    Savea
                    TJP
                    B Barrett

                    Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                    dude

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @mariner4life is Mauger with the 6:2 split.

                      mariner4lifeM Online
                      mariner4lifeM Online
                      mariner4life
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                      @Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @mariner4life is Mauger with the 6:2 split.

                      damn right. Tests are won up front. Token back replacements are rarely required. B Barrett is there for impact with his pace later on.

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                      • TimT Away
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                        Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

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                          @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

                          who is the other tighthead?

                          genuine question, because i honestly don't know

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

                            who is the other tighthead?

                            genuine question, because i honestly don't know

                            KiwiMurphK Online
                            KiwiMurphK Online
                            KiwiMurph
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                            #193

                            @mariner4life Lomax who just got released to play Mitre 10 Cup this weekend?

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

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                              @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

                              I'd largely agree with you apart from the North-South game where I thought Nepo had a good points win.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                Moody
                                Taylor
                                Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                Sam W
                                Tuipulotu
                                Frizzel
                                Cane
                                Sotutu
                                Smith
                                Mo'unga
                                Clarke
                                ALB
                                Ioane
                                Jordan
                                J Barrett

                                Aumua
                                Karl T
                                Ofa T
                                Vaa'i
                                Ioane
                                Savea
                                TJP
                                B Barrett

                                Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                                dude

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                                #195

                                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                Moody
                                Taylor
                                Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                Sam W
                                Tuipulotu
                                Frizzel
                                Cane
                                Sotutu
                                Smith
                                Mo'unga
                                Clarke
                                ALB
                                Ioane
                                Jordan
                                J Barrett

                                Aumua
                                Karl T
                                Ofa T
                                Vaa'i
                                Ioane
                                Savea
                                TJP
                                B Barrett

                                Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                                dude

                                Sorry, misread. I'd swap the props, cos that's what all the 'experts' have, no idea myself. Swap Ioane for goodhue. 6:2 split is for fat unfit squads

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                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300125839/all-blacks-v-wallabies-stress-of-bledisloe-week-a-little-different-for-matt-toomua-this-time

                                  This quip about Rennie while discussing differences with Cheika cracked me up

                                  "A lot of it’s new but he seems like a very calm and composed character, which is quite nice.”

                                  No more psycho nutter screaming at us.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                    Moody
                                    Taylor
                                    Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                    Sam W
                                    Tuipulotu
                                    Frizzel
                                    Cane
                                    Sotutu
                                    Smith
                                    Mo'unga
                                    Clarke
                                    ALB
                                    Ioane
                                    Jordan
                                    J Barrett

                                    Aumua
                                    Karl T
                                    Ofa T
                                    Vaa'i
                                    Ioane
                                    Savea
                                    TJP
                                    B Barrett

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                                    @mariner4life 6 forward bench. Looking to bash them?

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                                      @mariner4life 6 forward bench. Looking to bash them?

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                                      @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @mariner4life 6 forward bench. Looking to bash them?

                                      yes. repeatedly. for 80 minutes.

                                      the quick guys out wide will feed off that. bliss.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-key-ingredient-the-wallabies-must-take-out-of-their-recipe-to-avoid-another-bledisloe-disaster/

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                                        @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-key-ingredient-the-wallabies-must-take-out-of-their-recipe-to-avoid-another-bledisloe-disaster/

                                        Great article. "Eliminate errors" and "don't be stupid" could have been covered off in 2 paragraphs, but a sperminating thrashwank of a victory over Ireland had to be flogged out of the author first.

                                        Well done.

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                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/why-james-oconnor-is-the-obvious-choice-to-start-at-flyhalf-for-the-wallabies/

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