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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
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    #182

    I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

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      #183

      @KiwiMurph Are you implying that you are ok in selecting players that might not be "up to it" into the All Blacks squad. Surely if a player is selected in the squad he must be considered good enough to do the job. If not "up to it"but he is the best available in that particular position then we will just have to live with it.

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      • HigginsH Higgins

        @KiwiMurph Are you implying that you are ok in selecting players that might not be "up to it" into the All Blacks squad. Surely if a player is selected in the squad he must be considered good enough to do the job. If not "up to it"but he is the best available in that particular position then we will just have to live with it.

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        #184

        @Higgins I didn't say he wasn't up to it - I'm just not against easing him in perhaps off the bench or even wait until the second Bledisloe once we've had a look at Rennie's Wallabies. In a unique unknown situation as this first test I don't think experience in the loosies is a bad thing.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

          Moody
          Taylor
          Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
          Sam W
          Tuipulotu
          Frizzel
          Cane
          Sotutu
          Smith
          Mo'unga
          Clarke
          ALB
          Ioane
          Jordan
          J Barrett

          Aumua
          Karl T
          Ofa T
          Vaa'i
          Ioane
          Savea
          TJP
          B Barrett

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          Machpants
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          #185

          @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

          If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

          Moody
          Taylor
          Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
          Sam W
          Tuipulotu
          Frizzel
          Cane
          Sotutu
          Smith
          Mo'unga
          Clarke
          ALB
          Ioane
          Jordan
          J Barrett

          Aumua
          Karl T
          Ofa T
          Vaa'i
          Ioane
          Savea
          TJP
          B Barrett

          Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

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            #186

            @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

            The other seven blokes will have a big say in that though.

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            • M Machpants

              @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

              Moody
              Taylor
              Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
              Sam W
              Tuipulotu
              Frizzel
              Cane
              Sotutu
              Smith
              Mo'unga
              Clarke
              ALB
              Ioane
              Jordan
              J Barrett

              Aumua
              Karl T
              Ofa T
              Vaa'i
              Ioane
              Savea
              TJP
              B Barrett

              Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

              KiwiMurphK Offline
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              KiwiMurph
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              #187

              @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

              Moody
              Taylor
              Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
              Sam W
              Tuipulotu
              Frizzel
              Cane
              Sotutu
              Smith
              Mo'unga
              Clarke
              ALB
              Ioane
              Jordan
              J Barrett

              Aumua
              Karl T
              Ofa T
              Vaa'i
              Ioane
              Savea
              TJP
              B Barrett

              Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

              TJP is there.

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              • M Machpants

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                Moody
                Taylor
                Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                Sam W
                Tuipulotu
                Frizzel
                Cane
                Sotutu
                Smith
                Mo'unga
                Clarke
                ALB
                Ioane
                Jordan
                J Barrett

                Aumua
                Karl T
                Ofa T
                Vaa'i
                Ioane
                Savea
                TJP
                B Barrett

                Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

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                Hooroo
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                #188

                @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                Moody
                Taylor
                Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                Sam W
                Tuipulotu
                Frizzel
                Cane
                Sotutu
                Smith
                Mo'unga
                Clarke
                ALB
                Ioane
                Jordan
                J Barrett

                Aumua
                Karl T
                Ofa T
                Vaa'i
                Ioane
                Savea
                TJP
                B Barrett

                Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                Who are you swapping Ofa for?

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                • M Machpants

                  @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                  Moody
                  Taylor
                  Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                  Sam W
                  Tuipulotu
                  Frizzel
                  Cane
                  Sotutu
                  Smith
                  Mo'unga
                  Clarke
                  ALB
                  Ioane
                  Jordan
                  J Barrett

                  Aumua
                  Karl T
                  Ofa T
                  Vaa'i
                  Ioane
                  Savea
                  TJP
                  B Barrett

                  Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                  mariner4lifeM Offline
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                  mariner4life
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #189

                  @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                  Moody
                  Taylor
                  Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                  Sam W
                  Tuipulotu
                  Frizzel
                  Cane
                  Sotutu
                  Smith
                  Mo'unga
                  Clarke
                  ALB
                  Ioane
                  Jordan
                  J Barrett

                  Aumua
                  Karl T
                  Ofa T
                  Vaa'i
                  Ioane
                  Savea
                  TJP
                  B Barrett

                  Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                  dude

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @mariner4life is Mauger with the 6:2 split.

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                    mariner4life
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #190

                    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    @mariner4life is Mauger with the 6:2 split.

                    damn right. Tests are won up front. Token back replacements are rarely required. B Barrett is there for impact with his pace later on.

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                    • TimT Away
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                      #191

                      Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

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                        mariner4life
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                        #192

                        @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

                        who is the other tighthead?

                        genuine question, because i honestly don't know

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

                          who is the other tighthead?

                          genuine question, because i honestly don't know

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                          KiwiMurph
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                          #193

                          @mariner4life Lomax who just got released to play Mitre 10 Cup this weekend?

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

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                            #194

                            @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

                            I'd largely agree with you apart from the North-South game where I thought Nepo had a good points win.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                              Moody
                              Taylor
                              Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                              Sam W
                              Tuipulotu
                              Frizzel
                              Cane
                              Sotutu
                              Smith
                              Mo'unga
                              Clarke
                              ALB
                              Ioane
                              Jordan
                              J Barrett

                              Aumua
                              Karl T
                              Ofa T
                              Vaa'i
                              Ioane
                              Savea
                              TJP
                              B Barrett

                              Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                              dude

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                              #195

                              @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                              Moody
                              Taylor
                              Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                              Sam W
                              Tuipulotu
                              Frizzel
                              Cane
                              Sotutu
                              Smith
                              Mo'unga
                              Clarke
                              ALB
                              Ioane
                              Jordan
                              J Barrett

                              Aumua
                              Karl T
                              Ofa T
                              Vaa'i
                              Ioane
                              Savea
                              TJP
                              B Barrett

                              Replace lose forward Ioane with TJP, and I'm with you. Who's nine if Smith goes down? Edit oh swap Ofa, but I'm no expert on props

                              dude

                              Sorry, misread. I'd swap the props, cos that's what all the 'experts' have, no idea myself. Swap Ioane for goodhue. 6:2 split is for fat unfit squads

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                                #196

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300125839/all-blacks-v-wallabies-stress-of-bledisloe-week-a-little-different-for-matt-toomua-this-time

                                This quip about Rennie while discussing differences with Cheika cracked me up

                                "A lot of it’s new but he seems like a very calm and composed character, which is quite nice.”

                                No more psycho nutter screaming at us.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  If M4L was a selector (and it is pretty easy to see why i am not)

                                  Moody
                                  Taylor
                                  Laulala (i actually think Ofa is the better player, but i prefer the type of game Ofa would bring off the bench)
                                  Sam W
                                  Tuipulotu
                                  Frizzel
                                  Cane
                                  Sotutu
                                  Smith
                                  Mo'unga
                                  Clarke
                                  ALB
                                  Ioane
                                  Jordan
                                  J Barrett

                                  Aumua
                                  Karl T
                                  Ofa T
                                  Vaa'i
                                  Ioane
                                  Savea
                                  TJP
                                  B Barrett

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                                  #197

                                  @mariner4life 6 forward bench. Looking to bash them?

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @mariner4life 6 forward bench. Looking to bash them?

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                                    @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                    @mariner4life 6 forward bench. Looking to bash them?

                                    yes. repeatedly. for 80 minutes.

                                    the quick guys out wide will feed off that. bliss.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-key-ingredient-the-wallabies-must-take-out-of-their-recipe-to-avoid-another-bledisloe-disaster/

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                                      @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-key-ingredient-the-wallabies-must-take-out-of-their-recipe-to-avoid-another-bledisloe-disaster/

                                      Great article. "Eliminate errors" and "don't be stupid" could have been covered off in 2 paragraphs, but a sperminating thrashwank of a victory over Ireland had to be flogged out of the author first.

                                      Well done.

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                                      • TimT Away
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                                        Tim
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                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/why-james-oconnor-is-the-obvious-choice-to-start-at-flyhalf-for-the-wallabies/

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/why-james-oconnor-is-the-obvious-choice-to-start-at-flyhalf-for-the-wallabies/

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                                          @Tim his brand is on the rise?

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