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    @Chris-B said in NZ cricket 2020:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/300124842/ian-botham-introduced-as-a-peer-in-the-house-of-lords

    Not NZ Cricket - but, Baron Botham of Ravensworth...!!!

    Beefy is an absolute legend. Will always be one of my all time favourite players. Guys like him and his mate Viv Richards would absolutely dominate even more in today’s era.

    Bloody nice fella too, I met him when he was on a speaking tour in the Middle East when my family lived there in 1990. A few years later my old man spotted him at a restaurant in Welly and got him to sign a napkin for me, he was a bit pissed but still remembered Dad from that tour he did.

    Ya gotta feel sorry for Flintoff and Stokes having to try and live up to what he did....

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    It is kind of crazy that being good at cricket gets you to vote on government policies.

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    @KiwiPie said in NZ cricket 2020:

    It is kind of crazy that being good at cricket gets you to vote on government policies.

    I know, definitely a slippery slope. Next we’ll have presidents elected solely due to being rich and powerful.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Other Cricket 2020:

    Not sure where to put this, but anyone else watching the BeIN Sports Cricket’s Greatest XI series. Hadn’t seen them. Pretty well put together.

    1-Gavaskar
    2-Gooch
    3-Bradman
    4-Tendulkar
    5-Sobers
    6-Kallis
    7-Gilchrist
    8-Khan
    9-Warne
    10-Akram
    11-Holding

    A mate of mine in the UK just sent me a photo of himself and number 5 on that list! Spent the afternoon at his house yesterday having a few rums!
    As I typed he just sent a pic of a signed bat that just arrived.
    Gary is looking spritely for 84

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    So I have a little more to the story now.

    Mate is in Barbados on holiday (apparently a 'safe' destination according to the UK) and at a bar gets talking to Greg Armstrong (ex player/rebel manager) who is big friends with Sir Gary.
    After expressing how much of a legend he thinks Sobers is, Armstrong takes him to Gary's house for a drink and a chat. Out of the blue the signed bat arrives at the hotel the next morning.

    I would say he's a jammy bastard but tbh this kind of thing isn't unusual for him. He is just a really likeable bloke that has a knack for making connections.
    As an example, I was walking to a meeting with him in Belgravia one day and this car slows down and Paul Weller calls out hello. Turns out my mate used to live near Weller and his missus would babysit the kids sometimes.

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    @Crucial said in Other Cricket 2020:

    So I have a little more to the story now.

    Mate is in Barbados on holiday (apparently a 'safe' destination according to the UK) and at a bar gets talking to Greg Armstrong (ex player/rebel manager) who is big friends with Sir Gary.
    After expressing how much of a legend he thinks Sobers is, Armstrong takes him to Gary's house for a drink and a chat. Out of the blue the signed bat arrives at the hotel the next morning.

    I would say he's a jammy bastard but tbh this kind of thing isn't unusual for him. He is just a really likeable bloke that has a knack for making connections.
    As an example, I was walking to a meeting with him in Belgravia one day and this car slows down and Paul Weller calls out hello. Turns out my mate used to live near Weller and his missus would babysit the kids sometimes.

    Whilst it's certainly not up there with a breakfast with Joe Moody, Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire and Damien McKenzie having a few rums with the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

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    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    not with me. Sobers, then daylight.

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    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    not with me. Sobers, then daylight.

    It's a tough one. Kallis was up there with Tendulkar, Lara, Dravid, Ponting, Hayden........plus had the added bonus of being about as good as Chris Martin as a bowler ( never a world beater but pretty damn decent ).

    He's the only "batting" All Rounder that deserves a mention. The majority of the rest are "bowling" all rounders. Closest of the modern era would be Stokes if he continues improving like he is I guess.

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    @KiwiPie said in Other Cricket 2020:

    It is kind of crazy that being good at cricket gets you to vote on government policies.

    It is, But so is getting a vote because your ancestor was mates with a Duke 950 years ago.

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    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @Crucial said in Other Cricket 2020:

    So I have a little more to the story now.

    Mate is in Barbados on holiday (apparently a 'safe' destination according to the UK) and at a bar gets talking to Greg Armstrong (ex player/rebel manager) who is big friends with Sir Gary.
    After expressing how much of a legend he thinks Sobers is, Armstrong takes him to Gary's house for a drink and a chat. Out of the blue the signed bat arrives at the hotel the next morning.

    I would say he's a jammy bastard but tbh this kind of thing isn't unusual for him. He is just a really likeable bloke that has a knack for making connections.
    As an example, I was walking to a meeting with him in Belgravia one day and this car slows down and Paul Weller calls out hello. Turns out my mate used to live near Weller and his missus would babysit the kids sometimes.

    Whilst it's certainly not up there with a breakfast with Joe Moody, Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire and Damien McKenzie having a few rums with the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    No arguments to be made. SGS is the GOAT Allrounder in the widest sense.
    For a cricket fan he would certainly be near the top of the list of people you'd like to meet.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @Crucial said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @Crucial said in Other Cricket 2020:

    So I have a little more to the story now.

    Mate is in Barbados on holiday (apparently a 'safe' destination according to the UK) and at a bar gets talking to Greg Armstrong (ex player/rebel manager) who is big friends with Sir Gary.
    After expressing how much of a legend he thinks Sobers is, Armstrong takes him to Gary's house for a drink and a chat. Out of the blue the signed bat arrives at the hotel the next morning.

    I would say he's a jammy bastard but tbh this kind of thing isn't unusual for him. He is just a really likeable bloke that has a knack for making connections.
    As an example, I was walking to a meeting with him in Belgravia one day and this car slows down and Paul Weller calls out hello. Turns out my mate used to live near Weller and his missus would babysit the kids sometimes.

    Whilst it's certainly not up there with a breakfast with Joe Moody, Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire and Damien McKenzie having a few rums with the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    No arguments to be made. SGS is the GOAT Allrounder in the widest sense.
    For a cricket fan he would certainly be near the top of the list of people you'd like to meet.

    100%, all I'm saying is Kallis deserves a mention for his extraordinary achievements too. Both of them are world beaters based on their batting alone, they'd be hall of famers whether they turned the arm over or not.

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    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    not with me. Sobers, then daylight.

    It's a tough one. Kallis was up there with Tendulkar, Lara, Dravid, Ponting, Hayden........plus had the added bonus of being about as good as Chris Martin as a bowler ( never a world beater but pretty damn decent ).

    He's the only "batting" All Rounder that deserves a mention. The majority of the rest are "bowling" all rounders. Closest of the modern era would be Stokes if he continues improving like he is I guess.

    Going by stats alone, Kallis is only marginally behind Sobers with the bat and marginally above with the ball. Very similar (although Sobers got his batting average on uncovered pitches)

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @Crucial said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    not with me. Sobers, then daylight.

    It's a tough one. Kallis was up there with Tendulkar, Lara, Dravid, Ponting, Hayden........plus had the added bonus of being about as good as Chris Martin as a bowler ( never a world beater but pretty damn decent ).

    He's the only "batting" All Rounder that deserves a mention. The majority of the rest are "bowling" all rounders. Closest of the modern era would be Stokes if he continues improving like he is I guess.

    Going by stats alone, Kallis is only marginally behind Sobers with the bat and marginally above with the ball. Very similar (although Sobers got his batting average on uncovered pitches)

    In terms of aura Sobers has it all over Kallis which is perhaps a tad unfair. As you say their stats are pretty similar overall.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Sir Gary would also open the bowling as a seamer and then come back as a spinner - and could bowl left arm orthodox and Chinaman (or Chinamen?) - basically left arm legspin.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/300133101/the-next-cricketing-superpower-usa-cricket-bidding-for-icc-fullmember-status-by-2030

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    that'd be awesome if they did. USA would be sensational to tour around following cricket

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  • MN5M Offline
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    What a bizarre and juvenile series of events....

    https://wisden.com/stories/warne-on-samuels-just-because-you-were-an-ordinary-cricketer-no-need-to-be-an-ordinary-person?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3QHkHIfD6AJoXy7haCQziVAJkFyvxXEVvdDTvv7W0dAqUMvizaFO2D1Ng#Echobox=1603885725

    Warne is correct about him being an ordinary cricketer though, just as Samuels is correct about Warnes face not being real haha

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    Had some good fortune to see highlights of the first finals of the IPL.
    Kane's Sunrises vs Kohli and Hesson's Bangalore. Elimination final so red hot occasion. Bangalore made 137 odd and Sunrisers 2 for 50 odd when Kane came in at 4.

    He simply won the Elimination final for his team.
    50 not out and a partnership with Holder that got them through.

    Just Classic Kane. Just as a lull was developing he clinically smashes danger spinners over midwicket fence the nudges a 4 then creams cover drives. A bloody pleasure to watch.

    Earlier Boultys Mumbai gets 200 batting first against Delhi. Delhi bat and after 1.4 overs are 3 wickets for zero runs! Boulty with two jaffers. Mumbai straight into the final.
    Two Tauranga lads instrumental in earning their teams big pay days.

    Fucken rugby in the cricket season... 😒

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    @Siam said in Other Cricket 2020:

    Had some good fortune to see highlights of the first finals of the IPL.
    Kane's Sunrises vs Kohli and Hesson's Bangalore. Elimination final so red hot occasion. Bangalore made 137 odd and Sunrisers 2 for 50 odd when Kane came in at 4.

    He simply won the Elimination final for his team.
    50 not out and a partnership with Holder that got them through.

    Just Classic Kane. Just as a lull was developing he clinically smashes danger spinners over midwicket fence the nudges a 4 then creams cover drives. A bloody pleasure to watch.

    Earlier Boultys Mumbai gets 200 batting first against Delhi. Delhi bat and after 1.4 overs are 3 wickets for zero runs! Boulty with two jaffers. Mumbai straight into the final.
    Two Tauranga lads instrumental in earning their teams big pay days.

    Fucken rugby in the cricket season... 😒

    That reminds me. Windies are here soon, they have to go in a long quarantine which won’t help matters given in the last 30 or so years they often turn to shit and don’t try very hard when things don’t go their way.

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    I noticed that Sky had an promo for the upcoming Australia-India series at HT in the rugby broadcast. That seems more interesting than subscribing to Spark to watch NZ vs WI.

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