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    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    not with me. Sobers, then daylight.

    It's a tough one. Kallis was up there with Tendulkar, Lara, Dravid, Ponting, Hayden........plus had the added bonus of being about as good as Chris Martin as a bowler ( never a world beater but pretty damn decent ).

    He's the only "batting" All Rounder that deserves a mention. The majority of the rest are "bowling" all rounders. Closest of the modern era would be Stokes if he continues improving like he is I guess.

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    @KiwiPie said in Other Cricket 2020:

    It is kind of crazy that being good at cricket gets you to vote on government policies.

    It is, But so is getting a vote because your ancestor was mates with a Duke 950 years ago.

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    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @Crucial said in Other Cricket 2020:

    So I have a little more to the story now.

    Mate is in Barbados on holiday (apparently a 'safe' destination according to the UK) and at a bar gets talking to Greg Armstrong (ex player/rebel manager) who is big friends with Sir Gary.
    After expressing how much of a legend he thinks Sobers is, Armstrong takes him to Gary's house for a drink and a chat. Out of the blue the signed bat arrives at the hotel the next morning.

    I would say he's a jammy bastard but tbh this kind of thing isn't unusual for him. He is just a really likeable bloke that has a knack for making connections.
    As an example, I was walking to a meeting with him in Belgravia one day and this car slows down and Paul Weller calls out hello. Turns out my mate used to live near Weller and his missus would babysit the kids sometimes.

    Whilst it's certainly not up there with a breakfast with Joe Moody, Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire and Damien McKenzie having a few rums with the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    No arguments to be made. SGS is the GOAT Allrounder in the widest sense.
    For a cricket fan he would certainly be near the top of the list of people you'd like to meet.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @Crucial said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @Crucial said in Other Cricket 2020:

    So I have a little more to the story now.

    Mate is in Barbados on holiday (apparently a 'safe' destination according to the UK) and at a bar gets talking to Greg Armstrong (ex player/rebel manager) who is big friends with Sir Gary.
    After expressing how much of a legend he thinks Sobers is, Armstrong takes him to Gary's house for a drink and a chat. Out of the blue the signed bat arrives at the hotel the next morning.

    I would say he's a jammy bastard but tbh this kind of thing isn't unusual for him. He is just a really likeable bloke that has a knack for making connections.
    As an example, I was walking to a meeting with him in Belgravia one day and this car slows down and Paul Weller calls out hello. Turns out my mate used to live near Weller and his missus would babysit the kids sometimes.

    Whilst it's certainly not up there with a breakfast with Joe Moody, Jerome Kaino, Liam Squire and Damien McKenzie having a few rums with the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    No arguments to be made. SGS is the GOAT Allrounder in the widest sense.
    For a cricket fan he would certainly be near the top of the list of people you'd like to meet.

    100%, all I'm saying is Kallis deserves a mention for his extraordinary achievements too. Both of them are world beaters based on their batting alone, they'd be hall of famers whether they turned the arm over or not.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    not with me. Sobers, then daylight.

    It's a tough one. Kallis was up there with Tendulkar, Lara, Dravid, Ponting, Hayden........plus had the added bonus of being about as good as Chris Martin as a bowler ( never a world beater but pretty damn decent ).

    He's the only "batting" All Rounder that deserves a mention. The majority of the rest are "bowling" all rounders. Closest of the modern era would be Stokes if he continues improving like he is I guess.

    Going by stats alone, Kallis is only marginally behind Sobers with the bat and marginally above with the ball. Very similar (although Sobers got his batting average on uncovered pitches)

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @Crucial said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:

    @MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:

    the greatest All Rounder in history ( well, arguements can be made for Kallis and Imran but anyway ) is pretty darn cool.

    not with me. Sobers, then daylight.

    It's a tough one. Kallis was up there with Tendulkar, Lara, Dravid, Ponting, Hayden........plus had the added bonus of being about as good as Chris Martin as a bowler ( never a world beater but pretty damn decent ).

    He's the only "batting" All Rounder that deserves a mention. The majority of the rest are "bowling" all rounders. Closest of the modern era would be Stokes if he continues improving like he is I guess.

    Going by stats alone, Kallis is only marginally behind Sobers with the bat and marginally above with the ball. Very similar (although Sobers got his batting average on uncovered pitches)

    In terms of aura Sobers has it all over Kallis which is perhaps a tad unfair. As you say their stats are pretty similar overall.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Sir Gary would also open the bowling as a seamer and then come back as a spinner - and could bowl left arm orthodox and Chinaman (or Chinamen?) - basically left arm legspin.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/300133101/the-next-cricketing-superpower-usa-cricket-bidding-for-icc-fullmember-status-by-2030

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    that'd be awesome if they did. USA would be sensational to tour around following cricket

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  • MN5M Offline
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    What a bizarre and juvenile series of events....

    https://wisden.com/stories/warne-on-samuels-just-because-you-were-an-ordinary-cricketer-no-need-to-be-an-ordinary-person?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3QHkHIfD6AJoXy7haCQziVAJkFyvxXEVvdDTvv7W0dAqUMvizaFO2D1Ng#Echobox=1603885725

    Warne is correct about him being an ordinary cricketer though, just as Samuels is correct about Warnes face not being real haha

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  • SiamS Offline
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    Had some good fortune to see highlights of the first finals of the IPL.
    Kane's Sunrises vs Kohli and Hesson's Bangalore. Elimination final so red hot occasion. Bangalore made 137 odd and Sunrisers 2 for 50 odd when Kane came in at 4.

    He simply won the Elimination final for his team.
    50 not out and a partnership with Holder that got them through.

    Just Classic Kane. Just as a lull was developing he clinically smashes danger spinners over midwicket fence the nudges a 4 then creams cover drives. A bloody pleasure to watch.

    Earlier Boultys Mumbai gets 200 batting first against Delhi. Delhi bat and after 1.4 overs are 3 wickets for zero runs! Boulty with two jaffers. Mumbai straight into the final.
    Two Tauranga lads instrumental in earning their teams big pay days.

    Fucken rugby in the cricket season... 😒

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @Siam said in Other Cricket 2020:

    Had some good fortune to see highlights of the first finals of the IPL.
    Kane's Sunrises vs Kohli and Hesson's Bangalore. Elimination final so red hot occasion. Bangalore made 137 odd and Sunrisers 2 for 50 odd when Kane came in at 4.

    He simply won the Elimination final for his team.
    50 not out and a partnership with Holder that got them through.

    Just Classic Kane. Just as a lull was developing he clinically smashes danger spinners over midwicket fence the nudges a 4 then creams cover drives. A bloody pleasure to watch.

    Earlier Boultys Mumbai gets 200 batting first against Delhi. Delhi bat and after 1.4 overs are 3 wickets for zero runs! Boulty with two jaffers. Mumbai straight into the final.
    Two Tauranga lads instrumental in earning their teams big pay days.

    Fucken rugby in the cricket season... 😒

    That reminds me. Windies are here soon, they have to go in a long quarantine which won’t help matters given in the last 30 or so years they often turn to shit and don’t try very hard when things don’t go their way.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    I noticed that Sky had an promo for the upcoming Australia-India series at HT in the rugby broadcast. That seems more interesting than subscribing to Spark to watch NZ vs WI.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @Bovidae said in Other Cricket 2020:

    I noticed that Sky had an promo for the upcoming Australia-India series at HT in the rugby broadcast. That seems more interesting than subscribing to Spark to watch NZ vs WI.

    It’s been that way for years. At least it’s not Bangladesh or Sri Lanka although not sure the Windies have much in the way of class players, Holder excepted ( I’d say best All Rounder in the world at present )

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Siam I see Little Kane was asked to repeat the dose last night - was in course to do it with 67 from 45 balls - but then got out with the game in the balance.

    Shortly afterwards the Sunrisers fell apart needing 23 from 10 balls.

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    Some fun commentary on Boult and Bumrah......

    Marcus Stoinis ahead of Rishabh Pant. More ducks than at a pond. Two slips in place

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    Bumrah to Dhawan, OUT
    Ladies and gentleman. If you ever want to see domination, this is what it looks like. Lose the toss, ask to bat, score 200, and reduce the opposition to nought for three. Swinging quick yorker. Searing and moving. Traps him lbw first on the toe, and then breaks his off stump. Bowled takes precedence here
    S Dhawan b Bumrah 0 (2b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00
    Slip in place

    1.1
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    Bumrah to Dhawan, no run
    Short of a length, no room, punched to cover
    Mumbai going all out here. Bumrah to share the new ball

    END OF OVER 1Wicket maiden
    DC: 0/2CRR: 0 • RRR: 10.57 • Need 201 runs from 114b
    Shreyas Iyer
    0 (1)
    Shikhar Dhawan
    0 (0)
    Trent Boult
    1-1-0-2
    Kishan is holding on to his right shoulder. He has slipped when throwing, which means he is at the risk of throwing his shoulder out. But he is staying on and the physio has been sent back

    0.6
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    Boult to Iyer, no run
    Double-wicket maiden to start off with when defending 200. Hardly gets better. Short of a length, pushed to pint, and Kishan has hurt himself trying to deny them the single they are not even serious about
    In comes captain Iyer. Had an ordinary day in the field with his bowling changes

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    Boult to Rahane, OUT
    Bashes the front pad this time. When they were looking for swing, he bowled across them. Now he has drawn Rahane across twice, and has bowled the late inswinger to trap him in front. In an otherwise powerful attack, when you can't afford to see Boult off, this guy is a menace. And he is shrewd to go with his skills
    AM Rahane lbw b Boult 0 (3b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00
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    Boult to Rahane, no run
    On a length, around off, pushed to cover
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    Boult to Rahane, no run
    On a length, slight swing, defended solidly off the front foot
    In comes Rahane now. Now pressure will be on Dhawan to score quicker than usual

    A wicket for Boult in the first over of each of his three matches against DC. And I need not remind the management and the owners: they let Boult go in the off season. They let him go

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    Boult to Shaw, OUT
    This is such clever bowling. Shaw is looking for that inswinger, his feet are not going across, and Boult has not given him the inswinger. He has bowled on an angle. And with feet unsure, his hands push at it, and it takes the edge. What's more? It is a cutter, meant to go across. Clever clever bowling
    PP Shaw c †de Kock b Boult 0 (2b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00
    Wide slip in place

    Vishal Pawar: "Whether dew helps DC chase this down comfortably or MI bowlers defend this well above par target, for me MI are the real champions for the sheer courage and audacity with which they have performed in all departments. Any other team would have given up after half your team is down at 15 overs and reach a mediocre target. "

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    Boult to Shaw, no run
    No swing. Short of a length, just outside off, defended
    Shaw takes first strike. Can he turn his tournament around?

    And now Trent Boult will be swinging it in looking to bash that front pad of Shaw. Imperative that Dhawan takes first strike. Boult took a wicket in the first over in both the matches between these two sides in the league stage

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    Bumrah and Boult is one hell of an opening partnership

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    So we need to keep an eye on England with regard to the Test Championship.

    ENGLAND

    Current points percentage: 60.8 (292 out of 480)

    What’s left (max 240 points):

    -Sri Lanka 2 away tests (60pts per win, 20pts per draw)

    -India 4 away tests (30pts per win, 10pts per draw)

    What they need to top 70 per cent:

    220 more points (win both against Sri Lanka; and win 3 and draw 1 against India)

    Sri Lanka not currently helping our cause. All out 137 and by all accounts down to poor cricket.

    Raining currently. Hopefully that keeps up.

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    @booboo said in Other Cricket:

    So we need to keep an eye on England with regard to the Test Championship.

    ENGLAND

    Current points percentage: 60.8 (292 out of 480)

    What’s left (max 240 points):

    -Sri Lanka 2 away tests (60pts per win, 20pts per draw)

    -India 4 away tests (30pts per win, 10pts per draw)

    What they need to top 70 per cent:

    220 more points (win both against Sri Lanka; and win 3 and draw 1 against India)

    Sri Lanka not currently helping our cause. All out 137 and by all accounts down to poor cricket.

    Raining currently. Hopefully that keeps up.

    And yeah I know winning 3-nil in India is a stretch ...

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