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    It's a good point calling out the appointing a team thing: it's a bullshit approach.
    Appoint the head coach, and let him select his team afterwards.
    There would be plenty of people who would tie themselves to one candidate under the current system who in a normal recruitment scenario may well make themselves available as assistant whoever gets the top gig.
    Assistant AB coach is a fairly prime spot in its own right.

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    @reprobate said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    Assistant AB coach is a fairly prime spot in its own right.

    Yeah it guarantees you head coach role in a RWC cycle or two, no matter how shit your head coaching cv is!

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    I'm starting to believe the 2017-2019 problem wasn't just Hansen.

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    @antipodean said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    I'm starting to believe the 2017-2019 problem wasn't just Hansen.

    Starting?

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    @antipodean said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    I'm starting to believe the 2017-2019 problem wasn't just Hansen.

    Wayne Smith was the counterpoint that made the 2015 zoo work. Iterations after that had less quality

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    @antipodean said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    I'm starting to believe the 2017-2019 problem wasn't just Hansen.

    True but Hansen was the one who was stupid enough to appoint Foster and McLeod. He caused this mess.

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    Foster is going great for the Fern getting a real good blow out. the vitriol is beautiful to watch

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    @mariner4life said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    Foster is going great for the Fern getting a real good blow out. the vitriol is beautiful to watch

    Or, in your case, write. Dude you're smashing it out the park!

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    @Machpants said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    @mariner4life said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    Foster is going great for the Fern getting a real good blow out. the vitriol is beautiful to watch

    Or, in your case, write. Dude you're smashing it out the park!

    it's cathartic

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    @mariner4life said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    Foster is going great for the Fern getting a real good blow out. the vitriol is beautiful to watch

    was thinking this, too. When was the last time the collective Fern blew up over selections? 2003?

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    @nzzp said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    @mariner4life said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    Foster is going great for the Fern getting a real good blow out. the vitriol is beautiful to watch

    was thinking this, too. When was the last time the collective Fern blew up over selections? 2003?

    Wayne Barnes would definitely have some hurt feelings if he visited in late 2007

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    @MN5 said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    Wayne Barnes would definitely have some hurt feelings if he visited in late 2007

    Well he wasn't an AB selector as such - he just chose the winners.

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    @MN5 said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    @nzzp said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    @mariner4life said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    Foster is going great for the Fern getting a real good blow out. the vitriol is beautiful to watch

    was thinking this, too. When was the last time the collective Fern blew up over selections? 2003?

    Wayne Barnes would definitely have some hurt feelings if he visited in late 2007

    I don't doubt it - but Henry and then Hansen managed to pick the best players fairly consistently. NOt like this.

    Maybe around R&R time, with 2 XV being picked, but even then the squads were fairly uncontroversial

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    @nzzp said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    but Henry and then Hansen managed to pick the best players fairly consistently. NOt like this.

    They mostly played in position too (with some epic fails thrown in - that maybe a coach should learn from)? Just saying.

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    @Snowy said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    @nzzp said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    but Henry and then Hansen managed to pick the best players fairly consistently. NOt like this.

    They mostly played in position too (with some epic fails thrown in - that maybe a coach should learn from)? Just saying.

    Cullen is a Centre

    MacDonald is a Centre

    ...
    Goodhue is a 12

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    @nzzp Kaino at lock, etc.

    They didn't normally do it all over the park at the same time though.

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    @Snowy said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    @MN5 said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    Wayne Barnes would definitely have some hurt feelings if he visited in late 2007

    Well he wasn't an AB selector as such - he just chose the winners.

    THAT'S THE FUCKING AB SELECTORS JOB!!!

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    @mariner4life Yes. In that case the ref decided to do it, but I get where you are coming from and it isn't looking too flash.

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    @antipodean if your starting, regards Foster, that can't be your natural position.

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    @nzzp said in The 'How is Fozzie going?' thread:

    I don't doubt it - but Henry and then Hansen managed to pick the best players fairly consistently. NOt like this.

    Both times in a post-RWC year with Henry they did.

    Look back at some of the team selections in 2004 before the EOYT - it is an absolute blender. Apart from Woodcock, Hayman and a fit Umaga all the key components of the 2005 Lions/Grand Slam team were in the 2003 semi final match day 22 - but jeez they went the long way around to get there. Even on the 2004 EOYT they insisted on playing that promising second-five from the Crusaders at 10.

    Then in 2008 I don't remember it being this bad but going through the team sheets... they played Carter at 12 in a Bledisloe. Rodders started at least one 3N test in each of the 6,7 & 8 jerseys. Kaino constantly switches between 6 & 8. Toeava started at 12, 14 and 15 (off the bench at centre too). Kahui switched between centre and the wing. That is without other out of position picks in the Samoa and Munster games.

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