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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • B bayimports

    right probably late enough....i believe it may look like this...

    BB, JB, ALB, JG, CC, RM, AS, HS, SC, SF, SW, PT, OT, DC, KT
    Bench CT, AH, TL, SB, DP, TJP, NL, RI

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    @bayimports That must be one of our better benches in some time, as a unit that adds a lot of penetration, mobility, and speed.

    This also makes me question WTF the selectors were thinking in bled 1, have to give them credit for evolving I guess.

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    • B bayimports

      right probably late enough....i believe it may look like this...

      BB, JB, ALB, JG, CC, RM, AS, HS, SC, SF, SW, PT, OT, DC, KT
      Bench CT, AH, TL, SB, DP, TJP, NL, RI

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      @bayimports said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      right probably late enough....i believe it may look like this...

      BB, JB, ALB, JG, CC, RM, AS, HS, SC, SF, SW, PT, OT, DC, KT
      Bench CT, AH, TL, SB, DP, TJP, NL, RI

      If I could change one thing it would be for Roane to start and Joride to be on pine.

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        @bayimports said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        right probably late enough....i believe it may look like this...

        BB, JB, ALB, JG, CC, RM, AS, HS, SC, SF, SW, PT, OT, DC, KT
        Bench CT, AH, TL, SB, DP, TJP, NL, RI

        If I could change one thing it would be for Roane to start and Joride to be on pine.

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        @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @bayimports said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        right probably late enough....i believe it may look like this...

        BB, JB, ALB, JG, CC, RM, AS, HS, SC, SF, SW, PT, OT, DC, KT
        Bench CT, AH, TL, SB, DP, TJP, NL, RI

        If I could change one thing it would be for Roane to start and Joride to be on pine.

        Perhaps the thought of seven Blues starting was too much for Fozzie?!

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          Ofa the only prop that was in last year's RWC squad. Those guys are going to be tested.

          Bit surprised they're starting with Big Karl.

          Wasn't expecting to see Laumape in the mix, but keen to see how he goes. He was in a decent vein of form before he was injured. Adds some power to the backline options.

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            Laumape's direct running could be bloody handy in the wet.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Laumape's direct running could be bloody handy in the wet.

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              @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              Laumape's direct running could be bloody handy in the wet.

              Ritchie knows what he can do close to set piece!

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                @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                Laumape's direct running could be bloody handy in the wet.

                Ritchie knows what he can do close to set piece!

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                @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                Laumape's direct running could be bloody handy in the wet.

                Ritchie knows what he can do close to set piece!

                Beaudy knows being at fullback doesn't mean you are safe.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

                  Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

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                  @Kirwan I think he just does not like Kirifi. Not sure what he does not like about Papalii-plays at least two positions well enough I would have thought.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

                    Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

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                    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

                    Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

                    Interesting that the leading fetcher in English rugby, Jack Wills, is 6’ 3”, 17 stone, and packs a punch in D. I suspect that’s what TWM are keen to replicate.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @akan004 hashtag booboo

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                      @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      @akan004 hashtag booboo

                      Wha? Que? Oh ... a #booboo not a @booboo ...

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        I'll take a stab at the reserves

                        Lomax,Taylor,Hodgman,SBarrett, AI, TJ, RI, Jordan

                        or if they go a 6/2 bench
                        Lomax,Taylor,Hodgman, Vaa’i, SBarrett, AI, TJ, Jordan

                        No openside cover if the unthinkable happens and Cane breaks down in the first minute? Kirifi looks a good option there.

                        No need for two locks on the bench in my view of you’ve got Frizell in the lineup who if there are multiple injuries could cover there. Loose forward cover is what’s needed IMO.

                        I heard S Barrett can cover 6, 7 and 8...

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                        @voodoo said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        I'll take a stab at the reserves

                        Lomax,Taylor,Hodgman,SBarrett, AI, TJ, RI, Jordan

                        or if they go a 6/2 bench
                        Lomax,Taylor,Hodgman, Vaa’i, SBarrett, AI, TJ, Jordan

                        No openside cover if the unthinkable happens and Cane breaks down in the first minute? Kirifi looks a good option there.

                        No need for two locks on the bench in my view of you’ve got Frizell in the lineup who if there are multiple injuries could cover there. Loose forward cover is what’s needed IMO.

                        I heard S Barrett can cover 6, 7 and 8...

                        Had to look to see if this post was from @ACT-Crusader ...

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                        • B bayimports

                          right probably late enough....i believe it may look like this...

                          BB, JB, ALB, JG, CC, RM, AS, HS, SC, SF, SW, PT, OT, DC, KT
                          Bench CT, AH, TL, SB, DP, TJP, NL, RI

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                          @bayimports said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                          right probably late enough....i believe it may look like this...

                          BB, JB, ALB, JG, CC, RM, AS, HS, SC, SF, SW, PT, OT, DC, KT
                          Bench CT, AH, TL, SB, DP, TJP, NL, RI

                          Shame no AI

                          Like NL being there though

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                          • P pakman

                            @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                            Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

                            Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

                            Interesting that the leading fetcher in English rugby, Jack Wills, is 6’ 3”, 17 stone, and packs a punch in D. I suspect that’s what TWM are keen to replicate.

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                            • P pakman

                              @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

                              Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

                              Interesting that the leading fetcher in English rugby, Jack Wills, is 6’ 3”, 17 stone, and packs a punch in D. I suspect that’s what TWM are keen to replicate.

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                              @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                              Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

                              Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

                              Interesting that the leading fetcher in English rugby, Jack Wills, is 6’ 3”, 17 stone, and packs a punch in D. I suspect that’s what TWM are keen to replicate.

                              The French captain is quite a big unit too although perhaps a bit more athletic.

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                              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                Trying to extract some central wisdom from the above (and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together) but it sounds IMO that it is actually RM vs JB?
                                Ie BB sounds like a definite pick, the question is where.
                                JB is not a weapon (currently) anywhere but 15 (possibly). None of the 3 currently are kicking that well consistently (DMac doesn't seem to be used for conversions).
                                Therefore
                                play RM/BB or BB/JB. Put a winger on the wing.
                                Midfield: stop stuffing AB around, he seems to be the continual sacrificial victim at 13 or SMB (safe mesito boy)/underrated glue player at 12. But he is better at 12 than JG and they aren't playing JG at 13 (so I don't understand what is happening).
                                Either play ALB at 12 JG at 13 or think again. Midfield should be a polished, glistening, hardcore rock by now.

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                                @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together

                                If such a thing actually exists, it should be banned as an affront to human dignity forthwith.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

                                  Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

                                  Interesting that the leading fetcher in English rugby, Jack Wills, is 6’ 3”, 17 stone, and packs a punch in D. I suspect that’s what TWM are keen to replicate.

                                  The French captain is quite a big unit too although perhaps a bit more athletic.

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                                  @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

                                  Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

                                  Interesting that the leading fetcher in English rugby, Jack Wills, is 6’ 3”, 17 stone, and packs a punch in D. I suspect that’s what TWM are keen to replicate.

                                  The French captain is quite a big unit too although perhaps a bit more athletic.

                                  6'6" and 17 stone. 'Quite' big! France will be VERY dangerous for 2023 at home.

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    Ofa the only prop that was in last year's RWC squad. Those guys are going to be tested.

                                    Bit surprised they're starting with Big Karl.

                                    Wasn't expecting to see Laumape in the mix, but keen to see how he goes. He was in a decent vein of form before he was injured. Adds some power to the backline options.

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                                    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    Bit surprised they're starting with Big Karl.

                                    I agree. Big Karl looked way off the pace in the Welly wet.

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together

                                      If such a thing actually exists, it should be banned as an affront to human dignity forthwith.

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                      and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together

                                      If such a thing actually exists, it should be banned as an affront to human dignity forthwith.

                                      Nah, it's used to make beer! And mum used to make us have some as kids, for whatever reason
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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        Trying to extract some central wisdom from the above (and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together) but it sounds IMO that it is actually RM vs JB?
                                        Ie BB sounds like a definite pick, the question is where.
                                        JB is not a weapon (currently) anywhere but 15 (possibly). None of the 3 currently are kicking that well consistently (DMac doesn't seem to be used for conversions).
                                        Therefore
                                        play RM/BB or BB/JB. Put a winger on the wing.
                                        Midfield: stop stuffing AB around, he seems to be the continual sacrificial victim at 13 or SMB (safe mesito boy)/underrated glue player at 12. But he is better at 12 than JG and they aren't playing JG at 13 (so I don't understand what is happening).
                                        Either play ALB at 12 JG at 13 or think again. Midfield should be a polished, glistening, hardcore rock by now.

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                                        @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        Either play ALB at 12 JG at 13 or think again. Midfield should be a polished, glistening, hardcore rock by now.

                                        Been banging that drum for some time. I don't have a problem which number each player wears as long as ALB and JG can swap around as needed to utilised their strengths. And I can see the logic in trying out different combinations in non-key games and def. like giving Reiko & Laumape game time and experience.

                                        If the TWM decide to experiment a little and change a settled combination that's good as well - just make sure there's a settled combination to start with.

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                                          At least it's Thursday, I guess #bringback0630Thursdaynaming

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