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Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October

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  • BonesB Bones

    @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

    Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

    Interesting that the leading fetcher in English rugby, Jack Wills, is 6’ 3”, 17 stone, and packs a punch in D. I suspect that’s what TWM are keen to replicate.

    The French captain is quite a big unit too although perhaps a bit more athletic.

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    @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

    Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

    Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

    Interesting that the leading fetcher in English rugby, Jack Wills, is 6’ 3”, 17 stone, and packs a punch in D. I suspect that’s what TWM are keen to replicate.

    The French captain is quite a big unit too although perhaps a bit more athletic.

    6'6" and 17 stone. 'Quite' big! France will be VERY dangerous for 2023 at home.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      Ofa the only prop that was in last year's RWC squad. Those guys are going to be tested.

      Bit surprised they're starting with Big Karl.

      Wasn't expecting to see Laumape in the mix, but keen to see how he goes. He was in a decent vein of form before he was injured. Adds some power to the backline options.

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      @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

      Bit surprised they're starting with Big Karl.

      I agree. Big Karl looked way off the pace in the Welly wet.

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together

        If such a thing actually exists, it should be banned as an affront to human dignity forthwith.

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

        and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together

        If such a thing actually exists, it should be banned as an affront to human dignity forthwith.

        Nah, it's used to make beer! And mum used to make us have some as kids, for whatever reason
        b69fc9a1-eafd-4ef6-a852-ed1b52e97e14-image.jpeg https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.healthbenefitstimes.com%2Fbarley-malt-syrup%2F&psig=AOvVaw1R_mJ3gmxWk0oKKpOz3AIF&ust=1603997345924000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCMjt-_v51-wCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          Trying to extract some central wisdom from the above (and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together) but it sounds IMO that it is actually RM vs JB?
          Ie BB sounds like a definite pick, the question is where.
          JB is not a weapon (currently) anywhere but 15 (possibly). None of the 3 currently are kicking that well consistently (DMac doesn't seem to be used for conversions).
          Therefore
          play RM/BB or BB/JB. Put a winger on the wing.
          Midfield: stop stuffing AB around, he seems to be the continual sacrificial victim at 13 or SMB (safe mesito boy)/underrated glue player at 12. But he is better at 12 than JG and they aren't playing JG at 13 (so I don't understand what is happening).
          Either play ALB at 12 JG at 13 or think again. Midfield should be a polished, glistening, hardcore rock by now.

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          @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

          Either play ALB at 12 JG at 13 or think again. Midfield should be a polished, glistening, hardcore rock by now.

          Been banging that drum for some time. I don't have a problem which number each player wears as long as ALB and JG can swap around as needed to utilised their strengths. And I can see the logic in trying out different combinations in non-key games and def. like giving Reiko & Laumape game time and experience.

          If the TWM decide to experiment a little and change a settled combination that's good as well - just make sure there's a settled combination to start with.

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            At least it's Thursday, I guess #bringback0630Thursdaynaming

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            • P pakman

              @Bones said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              @Kirwan said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              Speaking of the best players, Hamish Bidwell has an opinion:
              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-we-are-past-the-point-where-lachlan-boshiers-all-blacks-omission-is-acceptable/XRMZLQUFTI57L6NYYH6P6LXNR4/

              Well that's a load of shite. Kirifi and Papalii have both had great games at Super level, it's plain wrong to suggest otherwise.

              Interesting that the leading fetcher in English rugby, Jack Wills, is 6’ 3”, 17 stone, and packs a punch in D. I suspect that’s what TWM are keen to replicate.

              The French captain is quite a big unit too although perhaps a bit more athletic.

              6'6" and 17 stone. 'Quite' big! France will be VERY dangerous for 2023 at home.

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              @pakman said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

              6'6" and 17 stone. 'Quite' big! France will be VERY dangerous for 2023 at home.

              100%.

              What's the chance we run into them in the knockouts? We've played more than any other pair of teams - 7 times in 9 touranments, which is remarkable!

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together

                If such a thing actually exists, it should be banned as an affront to human dignity forthwith.

                Nah, it's used to make beer! And mum used to make us have some as kids, for whatever reason
                b69fc9a1-eafd-4ef6-a852-ed1b52e97e14-image.jpeg https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.healthbenefitstimes.com%2Fbarley-malt-syrup%2F&psig=AOvVaw1R_mJ3gmxWk0oKKpOz3AIF&ust=1603997345924000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCMjt-_v51-wCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

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                @Machpants said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                Nah, it's used to make beer! And mum used to make us have some as kids, for whatever reason

                My Gran just gave me the beer as a kid. Always loved my Gran.

                Going to be interesting to see how how Hoskins goes if it is a tight test, especially in the wet. Just might be a bit different to where has shone in super rugby. Reckon he'll be O.K though.

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                • M Machpants

                  At least it's Thursday, I guess #bringback0630Thursdaynaming

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                  @Machpants said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                  At least it's Thursday, I guess #bringback0630Thursdaynaming

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                  Shocking state of affairs!

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @Machpants said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    At least it's Thursday, I guess #bringback0630Thursdaynaming

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                    Shocking state of affairs!

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                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                    Shocking state of affairs!

                    I'm not liking this new regime at all.

                    They don't understand numbers. Hand out random jerseys to any old player, don't understand time. Probably do a Cheika and name 24 players next.

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                    • SnowyS Snowy

                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      Shocking state of affairs!

                      I'm not liking this new regime at all.

                      They don't understand numbers. Hand out random jerseys to any old player, don't understand time. Probably do a Cheika and name 24 players next.

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                      @Snowy said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                      Shocking state of affairs!

                      I'm not liking this new regime at all.

                      They don't understand numbers. Hand out random jerseys to any old player, don't understand time. Probably do a Cheika and name 24 players next.

                      That would be the icing on the cake.

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                      • M Machpants

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        @nostrildamus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                        and pardon me for drinking non-alcohol malt as not used to brain cells rubbing together

                        If such a thing actually exists, it should be banned as an affront to human dignity forthwith.

                        Nah, it's used to make beer! And mum used to make us have some as kids, for whatever reason
                        b69fc9a1-eafd-4ef6-a852-ed1b52e97e14-image.jpeg https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.healthbenefitstimes.com%2Fbarley-malt-syrup%2F&psig=AOvVaw1R_mJ3gmxWk0oKKpOz3AIF&ust=1603997345924000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCMjt-_v51-wCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

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                        @Machpants

                        Thank God for that. I thought @nostrildamus was referring to some non-alcoholic abomination pretending to taste like single malt whisky.

                        (Fond memories of malt syrup - my dad used to let me lick the spoon when he made his carboys of beer.)

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                          Any sauce on what Rennie is doing?

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                            Any sauce on what Rennie is doing?

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                            @chimoaus

                            The word is

                            DHP 15, Petaia 13, Alaalatoa starting/Tupou bench, Simone 12.

                            Their team named at 4.30pm nz time.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300144569/dane-haylettpetty-to-be-wallabies-fullback-against-all-blacks-in-bledisloe-iii

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                              Tupou becomes ineffective once he runs out of gas. At least he loses his selling point.

                              Not surprised to see him shifted to bench as an impact player. The last two tests he has been started to provide impact at the start then subbed.
                              The risk is that he has to come on for an injury early on.

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                                Tupou becomes ineffective once he runs out of gas. At least he loses his selling point.

                                Not surprised to see him shifted to bench as an impact player. The last two tests he has been started to provide impact at the start then subbed.
                                The risk is that he has to come on for an injury early on.

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                                @Crucial or that he bangs off another midfield kick gifting the opposition territory.

                                Raining here since before dawn all day. Thunderstorms tomorrow. Saturday looking like afternoon thunderstorm then clear for kick off.

                                Sunset is officially 7:23PM on Saturday, so really it's a twilight game. Weird, TBH.

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                                  @Crucial or that he bangs off another midfield kick gifting the opposition territory.

                                  Raining here since before dawn all day. Thunderstorms tomorrow. Saturday looking like afternoon thunderstorm then clear for kick off.

                                  Sunset is officially 7:23PM on Saturday, so really it's a twilight game. Weird, TBH.

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                                  @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                  @Crucial or that he bangs off another midfield kick gifting the opposition territory.

                                  Raining here since before dawn all day. Thunderstorms tomorrow. Saturday looking like afternoon thunderstorm then clear for kick off.

                                  Sunset is officially 7:23PM on Saturday, so really it's a twilight game. Weird, TBH.

                                  The guy has a big upside though. Just need to work out how to use it well.
                                  Absolute beast with a few metres of steam up. Really sucks in defenders

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                                    @NTA said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    @Crucial or that he bangs off another midfield kick gifting the opposition territory.

                                    Raining here since before dawn all day. Thunderstorms tomorrow. Saturday looking like afternoon thunderstorm then clear for kick off.

                                    Sunset is officially 7:23PM on Saturday, so really it's a twilight game. Weird, TBH.

                                    The guy has a big upside though. Just need to work out how to use it well.
                                    Absolute beast with a few metres of steam up. Really sucks in defenders

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                                    @Crucial said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                    The guy has a big upside though. Just need to work out how to use it well.
                                    Absolute beast with a few metres of steam up. Really sucks in defenders

                                    Decent hands, too. Should give him 2 or 3 crashes, then skip him as a dummy runner or put a faster man on his shoulder.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      Tupou becomes ineffective once he runs out of gas. At least he loses his selling point.

                                      Not surprised to see him shifted to bench as an impact player. The last two tests he has been started to provide impact at the start then subbed.
                                      The risk is that he has to come on for an injury early on.

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                                      @Crucial He regularly plays 80 minutes for the Reds so.... don't really agree.

                                      I think he's being benched because he's too easy to rile up and throw off his game. Plus AAA does more meat and potatoes.

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                                        @Crucial He regularly plays 80 minutes for the Reds so.... don't really agree.

                                        I think he's being benched because he's too easy to rile up and throw off his game. Plus AAA does more meat and potatoes.

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                                        @Derpus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                        I think he's being benched because he's too easy to rile up

                                        Disagree with that. It's just that he was mostly ineffective last time out, so new things need to be tried.

                                        RWC in 2 years, let's look at the optimal in terms of combination and individual performance.

                                        For example, if AAA is starting again of beer tempted to put Faingaa back at 2 because Brumbies

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                                          @Crucial He regularly plays 80 minutes for the Reds so.... don't really agree.

                                          I think he's being benched because he's too easy to rile up and throw off his game. Plus AAA does more meat and potatoes.

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                                          @Derpus said in Bledisloe Three: Sydney, 31 October:

                                          @Crucial He regularly plays 80 minutes for the Reds so.... don't really agree.

                                          I think he's being benched because he's too easy to rile up and throw off his game. Plus AAA does more meat and potatoes.

                                          I'm not saying that he becomes useless, he can still scrum well and do basics. Just that he can only do the wrecking ball stuff for so long before fading.
                                          Do you use it at the start or the end?

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