Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
Fuck that. Cynical cheating should be stamped on hard. People misjudging the offside line / coming up too quick, hands in ruck a second too long are judgement errors. What SB did was not a mistake, it was deliberate, so fuck him and the whores he rode in on.
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The ABs scrum inviolability on their own feed is now over after 25 games. Lomax's back pedaling against a youngster was not a good vision. Maybe having Aumua (1.79 m) between Hodgman (1.94) and Lomax (1.93) was altering the front row cohesion ?
@cgrant said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
The ABs scrum inviolability on their own feed is now over after 25 games. Lomax's back pedaling against a youngster was not a good vision. Maybe having Aumua (1.79 m) between Hodgman (1.94) and Lomax (1.93) was altering the front row cohesion ?
Surely the first time that word has been used on the Fern. Nice.
There’s going to be some teething issues with some of these young front rowers.
Has to be one of the most inexperienced front rows to finish a test match against the Wallabies.
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@pakman you also see it once everything so often, this is the first time that I've seen it brought up by the TMO, and resulting in a card. It's a penalty only, the abs weren't on a warning. Richie got one, but that was a trip from the ground. But ball slaps not that rare, never seen a card for it
@Machpants warning is irrelevant. Referee can opt to hand out a yellow at his discretion if the situation warrants it.
Player off his feet, at a ruck, offaide to boot, obstructing legal play. Against the spirit of the game if you like.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
Nah, straight up deliberate fouls probably deserve it
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
It was as blatant as it gets on replay
I didn't like the TMO interfering. I don't think he is allowed to look at foul play, only dangerous play and tries.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?
It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?
It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got
@canefan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?
It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got
Perhaps the Goat could come in as a consultant on these dark arts you speak of.
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@canefan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?
It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got
Perhaps the Goat could come in as a consultant on these dark arts you speak of.
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@canefan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?
It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got
Perhaps the Goat could come in as a consultant on these dark arts you speak of.
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Just out of interest is it a knock on if the opposition player strips it from you? It happens a lot in today's game where the defender interferes with the attackers hands/arms/ball to cause a knock on. Sometimes there is no effort to tackle the player at all or to actually take possession of the ball.
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@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
Nah, straight up deliberate fouls probably deserve it
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
Nah, straight up deliberate fouls probably deserve it
There's a big difference between your opinion of deserved, and what is normal. I like yellows for this sort of thing, but this is the first I have seen one for it. Imo it was an incorrect decision, it was not consistent with all those that have gone before.
He's an idiot and it should be a yellow, imo, same as accidental high shot should be an orange card (10 mins off, someone else comes back). But shouldn't have happened in this game, not until guidance is changed and communicated with teams.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
Nah, straight up deliberate fouls probably deserve it
There's a big difference between your opinion of deserved, and what is normal. I like yellows for this sort of thing, but this is the first I have seen one for it. Imo it was an incorrect decision, it was not consistent with all those that have gone before.
He's an idiot and it should be a yellow, imo, same as accidental high shot should be an orange card (10 mins off, someone else comes back). But shouldn't have happened in this game, not until guidance is changed and communicated with teams.
@Machpants said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
But shouldn't have happened in this game, not until guidance is changed and communicated with teams.
You mean The Laws of Rugby?
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,
so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff
At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.
Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.
Nah, straight up deliberate fouls probably deserve it
There's a big difference between your opinion of deserved, and what is normal. I like yellows for this sort of thing, but this is the first I have seen one for it. Imo it was an incorrect decision, it was not consistent with all those that have gone before.
He's an idiot and it should be a yellow, imo, same as accidental high shot should be an orange card (10 mins off, someone else comes back). But shouldn't have happened in this game, not until guidance is changed and communicated with teams.
@Machpants I don’t think it’s just mine, I think serval had said he deserves it
I guess my starting point is deliberate things, and yes sometimes it’s hard to tell, but deliberate things should cop a harsher penalty
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@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?
It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got
@canefan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?
It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got
This reminds me of my dad watching US cop shows. Cop says I’m charging you with an offence under section 524 and Dad says, ‘ for overacting’.
Ten minutes in bin for tapping White’s hand seems disproportionate, but giving Scooter a yellow for crass stupidly seems justified!
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@canefan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?
It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got
This reminds me of my dad watching US cop shows. Cop says I’m charging you with an offence under section 524 and Dad says, ‘ for overacting’.
Ten minutes in bin for tapping White’s hand seems disproportionate, but giving Scooter a yellow for crass stupidly seems justified!
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:
@pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.
Doesn’t it (being low level deliberate offences) already? Makes a mockery of all that final warning stuff.
