Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November
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@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I hope
@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@hydro11 always starts with winning contact.
Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.
It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.
@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.
IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.
He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8
And a hard running six....
Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.
Maybe the fern has just got a pet punching bag....
Reiko has that covered
@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Reiko has that covered
I don't want to pile shit on Reiko, but he has done one or two seriously dumb things this year.
Not that he's the only dumb one, not by a long chalk.
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How did Hansen support this piston wristed gibbon, I am starting to think he was having a laugh.
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I’m really looking forward to the Wallaby Puma game, might Ben a game I can actually enjoy. I wonder what the mood around camp will be like next few weeks.
@chimoaus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I’m really looking forward to the Wallaby Puma game, might Ben a game I can actually enjoy. I wonder what the mood around camp will be like next few weeks.
It is astounding how much I'll cheer the Pumas that game.
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That game made all of the worst fears about the Foster era come true. He won't make it to the next world cup. Shit he'll be lucky to make it until the end of the RC next year. That looked like a team that was poorly coached and poorly prepared.
It's been on the cards for years (and screamed from the rooftops here at TSF) that we need to up the physicality because the game is changing. But due to arrogance or hubris or both, the brains trust seem to be blind to that fact. They need to get wise fast or the next few years are going to make 98 look like the golden era.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
That looked like a team that was poorly coached and poorly prepared.
It's the mental attitude and senior player leadership which seems the problem for me and that's been going downhill for several years.
And I'm not sure if Foster is the one to sort that out.
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Playing people in their specialist position is my surprise suggestion to the coaching staff.
Oh and revisiting the midfield.
I'm beginning to think (and this surprises me after the Conrad Smith years) we have enough good 13s but are missing quality 12s.
Arguably ALB, JG, PUJ (my preference, I think, need to see more of him) and RI are 13. ALB is a goodish 12 as well and the best 12/13 bench replacement but is he the best 12? Perhaps. NL doesn't look 100% and we don't have many other options. I miss Crotty. -
Aussies will smash them next week as Argentina will be drinking litres and litres of red wine
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How did Hansen support this piston wristed gibbon, I am starting to think he was having a laugh.
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We have gone from being the games innovators to a team struggling for ideas .
Lost to the wallabies and the pumas in successive weeks playing dumb rugby . Really dumb .
Concerning
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We have gone from being the games innovators to a team struggling for ideas .
Lost to the wallabies and the pumas in successive weeks playing dumb rugby . Really dumb .
Concerning
@kiwiinmelb said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
We have gone from being the games innovators to a team struggling for ideas .
Lost to the wallabies and the pumas in successive weeks playing dumb rugby . Really dumb .
Concerning
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@nostrildamus Reiko is not a test centre. He is one of the best wings in the world however. Taking JG off today was a mistake.
@kev yes I can believe that. Good centres take time. I still think he has potential but perhaps he'll always be an unstable combination of excitement and utter dumb shite machine..
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I hope
@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@hydro11 always starts with winning contact.
Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.
It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.
@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.
IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.
He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8
And a hard running six....
Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.
@akan004 It’s because they are running off an old template of a speed game with light back-like loose forwards running oppositions ragged. Three problems with that - one, you need to win first phase possession, two you need to be competitive at the breakdown and three, you need a strategy that has not already been on show for five years. This is very ordinary and unimaginative coaching. It’s like when Tim Cook took over from Steve Jobs at Apple. The thinking was ‘we have a winning formula. Just keep on churning out product based on the same template that the rest of the world has already worked out years ago’. It’s stale thinking from mediocrities standing on the shoulders of those who have gone before and enabled by conservative money men who are chained to what they think is a winning formula.
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I would love to hear what BB really thinks of Foster and what has happened the last few years. I have a sneaking suspicion behind closed doors he thinks foster is a fluffybunny. This no doubt creeps into the culture of players etc and may help explain why he has just been off for some time.
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@kev yes I can believe that. Good centres take time. I still think he has potential but perhaps he'll always be an unstable combination of excitement and utter dumb shite machine..
@nostrildamus he can do that at the level below. In tests we need him to do his core roles well.
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Can't argue with you kev. 13 is a key position and I liked JG there last year (just wish he was a bit quicker)
