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Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November

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  • chimoausC chimoaus

    Foster P5 W2 D1 L2 Winning percentage 40%

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    @chimoaus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    Foster P5 W2 D1 L2 Winning percentage 40%

    Is that better or worse than his record with the Chiefs?

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      Please continue to pick Jordie Barrett, forever. Thanks.

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        Aussies will smash them next week as Argentina will be drinking litres and litres of red wine

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        • K kev

          I know that everyone is climbing into Foster. The cracks were there at the World Cup. They need a rethink. We have to find a way to win the contact and that means different players.

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          @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

          I know that everyone is climbing into Foster. The cracks were there at the World Cup. They need a rethink. We have to find a way to win the contact and that means different players.

          Because Foster was there for the WC rot and has just carried on the mistakes. Ardie at 8 for example.

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            @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

            IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

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            @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

            IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

            He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

              IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

              He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

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              @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

              IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

              He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

              And a hard running six....

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              • H hydro11

                @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

                IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

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                @hydro11 this is classic Hoopcock thinking. They were both the best flankers around and both left it all out there but it never ever fucking worked post 2015.

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                  @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                  @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

                  IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

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                  @hydro11 You can never doubt his intensity but he like the rest of our forwards were monstered.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                    I know that everyone is climbing into Foster. The cracks were there at the World Cup. They need a rethink. We have to find a way to win the contact and that means different players.

                    Because Foster was there for the WC rot and has just carried on the mistakes. Ardie at 8 for example.

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                    @Kirwan he has the license to drop players now. He needs to. Be interesting to see.

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                      I hope

                      @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      @hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

                      Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

                      It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

                      @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

                      IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

                      He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

                      And a hard running six....

                      Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

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                        I am 100% supporting the Argies in 2 weeks.
                        I hope we lose and lose badly.
                        I want Foster gooooooooooooooooone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                          It's not as simple as putting Sotutu in for Ardie though. Ultimately it comes down to how the coach wants the team to play and the instructions they give.

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                            @Duluth said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            Cane/Sotutu/Ioane

                            Savea on the bench

                            Ahem..

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                            @Duluth said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            @Duluth said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            Cane/Sotutu/Ioane

                            Savea on the bench

                            Ahem..

                            I've had problems with Akira's attitude in the past, but he played OK last week and I liked his attitude when he took one for the team when he was taken off early.

                            Def. deserves another chance.

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                            • A akan004

                              I hope

                              @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

                              Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

                              It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

                              @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

                              IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

                              He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

                              And a hard running six....

                              Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

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                              @akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              I hope

                              @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

                              Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

                              It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

                              @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

                              IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

                              He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

                              And a hard running six....

                              Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

                              Maybe the fern has just got a pet punching bag....

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                                People were complaining about mythical Bok and England concerns, but this was what we were worried about. A physical side making few mistakes.

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                                  It's not as simple as putting Sotutu in for Ardie though. Ultimately it comes down to how the coach wants the team to play and the instructions they give.

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                                  @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  It's not as simple as putting Sotutu in for Ardie though. Ultimately it comes down to how the coach wants the team to play and the instructions they give.

                                  Would love to know what they were for today's game because fuck me that was some of the dumbest rugby I have seen in a long time.

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    I hope

                                    @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

                                    Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

                                    It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

                                    @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

                                    IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

                                    He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

                                    And a hard running six....

                                    Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

                                    Maybe the fern has just got a pet punching bag....

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    I hope

                                    @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

                                    Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

                                    It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

                                    @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

                                    IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

                                    He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

                                    And a hard running six....

                                    Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

                                    Maybe the fern has just got a pet punching bag....

                                    Reiko has that covered

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      I hope

                                      @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

                                      Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

                                      It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

                                      @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

                                      IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

                                      He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

                                      And a hard running six....

                                      Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

                                      Maybe the fern has just got a pet punching bag....

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                                      akan004
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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      I hope

                                      @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

                                      Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

                                      It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

                                      @Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

                                      IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

                                      He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

                                      And a hard running six....

                                      Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

                                      Maybe the fern has just got a pet punching bag....

                                      He also has a lot of support tbf.

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                                      • chimoausC chimoaus

                                        @hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                        It's not as simple as putting Sotutu in for Ardie though. Ultimately it comes down to how the coach wants the team to play and the instructions they give.

                                        Would love to know what they were for today's game because fuck me that was some of the dumbest rugby I have seen in a long time.

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                                        @chimoaus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                        Would love to know what they were for today's game because fuck me that was some of the dumbest rugby I have seen in a long time.

                                        Headless chickens without the chickens.

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                                          That game made all of the worst fears about the Foster era come true. He won't make it to the next world cup. Shit he'll be lucky to make it until the end of the RC next year. That looked like a team that was poorly coached and poorly prepared.

                                          It's been on the cards for years (and screamed from the rooftops here at TSF) that we need to up the physicality because the game is changing. But due to arrogance or hubris or both, the brains trust seem to be blind to that fact. They need to get wise fast or the next few years are going to make 98 look like the golden era.

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